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Air Luxor To Be Renamed  
User currently offlineBreiz From France, joined Mar 2005, 1917 posts, RR: 2
Posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 6331 times:

Air Luxor of Portugal (LK/LXR) is to announce its new trading name on October 11th.
The bad reputation gained by Luxor Air of Egypt (LU/LXO) seems to have been damaging for Air Luxor's business.

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User currently offlineSWISSER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 6249 times:

In fact, I was wtill confused about them until I had readed an article in AW.

I was always wondering what the European flag was doing on an egyptian carrier?  Wink

But the carrier is great on what I know now!


User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 6240 times:

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 1):
In fact, I was wtill confused about them until I had readed an article in AW.
I was always wondering what the European flag was doing on an egyptian carrier?

Same here!! When AW came in the mail I was expecting an article on an Egyptian airline!! So IMO a good move to change the name.Here's hoping for a cool name (please not air** or **fly) and a nice new colorscheme.



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User currently offlineUSADreamliner From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 6235 times:

Good!!
The name sounds like an Egyptian airline.

what will be the new name? Alexandria Air?  Wink

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User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 6235 times:

So I guess there going to have to repaint all of their aircraft with the new name?


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User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 6155 times:

Since every cheesy combination with the word Blue you can think off is already taken, and even White is not available either.. How about Eurowhite Air?  Wink

User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 6075 times:

Quoting Breiz (Thread starter):
Air Luxor of Portugal (LK/LXR) is to announce its new trading name on October 11th.
The bad reputation gained by Luxor Air of Egypt (LU/LXO) seems to have been damaging for Air Luxor's business.

Its about time. It will take a lot more for Air Luxor to loose its lousy reputation.

Regards,
Wings



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User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4186 posts, RR: 40
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 6069 times:

It was meant tio be Luxor coming from Luxure...wasn't it. here was a thread about it a while ago


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User currently offlineBHXFAOTIPYYC From Portugal, joined Jun 2005, 1644 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 6051 times:

Ah the most famous airline in Portugal for starting new routes and dropping them a couple of months later.... still I'm pleased the name is going, as everytime I came close to selling anything on LK pax always ask if it's Egyptian. Apparently the owner named it after his favourite city (luxor) but I was never able to confirm that. Maybe they will rename it after something Portuguese. Any suggestions? And no, you may not call it "Air Mateus Rosé"


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User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3768 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 6041 times:

I think it's about time Air Luxor changed it's name!

I wonder what It will be?

I would love it to be Portugal Airways or Portugal International

Will the a/c receive new paints or just new titles?

Rob!  Smile


User currently offlineBoysteve From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 951 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6021 times:

Air Luxor confused me also, I thought they were Egyptian. I was even more confused to see one of there A332's in SYD a few weeks ago. It was bound for Fujairah (FJR), a resort on the Arabian Sea coast of the UAE. No stopover was listed but I don't believe the trip could be done without one, 7424 miles according to great circle mapper.

User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4471 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6012 times:

Quoting Breiz (Thread starter):
Air Luxor of Portugal (LK/LXR) is to announce its new trading name on October 11th.
The bad reputation gained by Luxor Air of Egypt (LU/LXO) seems to have been damaging for Air Luxor's business.

I personally think that Luxor Air of Egypt should be the one concerned about a possible negative association with Air Luxor than vice versa.


User currently offlineBHXFAOTIPYYC From Portugal, joined Jun 2005, 1644 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6005 times:

Quoting Boysteve (Reply 10):

They do very well at a/c chartering. They have ferried British troops in Afghanistan amongst other jobs. They also seem to do a round the world package now and then. We got an itinerary from them last year, but sorry, can't remember the route.



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User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6006 times:

Quoting B742 (Reply 9):
I would love it to be Portugal Airways or Portugal International

I really hope that they don't end up putting Portugal anywhere on the fuselage of its fleet.

As a Portuguese citizen I would be very embarrassed buy this move as their reputation is really bad.

On a side not I would love to see Air Luxor and PGA Portugalia merge creating a larger network for both airlines. With Portugalias outstanding service + Air Luxors fleet and international roots they would become a strong alternative to Tap.

Quoting BHXFAOTIPYYC (Reply 8):
And no, you may not call it "Air Mateus Ros�"

Nice one BHXFAOTIPYYC. In that case we can rule out Port also.

Regards,
Wings



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User currently offlineSWISSER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 5879 times:

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 5):
How about Eurowhite Air?

Indeed if it was up to an American it would become Oldcontinental or something like that...


User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 5826 times:

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 14):
Indeed if it was up to an American it would become Oldcontinental or something like that...

Lame.



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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7422 posts, RR: 57
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 5813 times:

Quoting B742 (Reply 9):
I would love it to be Portugal Airways or Portugal International

There is already "TAP Portugal" & "Portugalia" ... another " xxxx Portugal xxx" would just create even more confusion ....


User currently offlineBabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 5781 times:

We always assume that businessmen types make good, well informed decisions. Imagine a Portuguese airline being named after an Egyptian city. How brainless is that?

Let's hope the new name makes a bit more sense.  Yeah sure


User currently offlineBreiz From France, joined Mar 2005, 1917 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 5764 times:

Quoting Babybus (Reply 17):
Imagine a Portuguese airline being named after an Egyptian city. How brainless is that?

Quite right, Babybus.
My understanding is that Air Luxor founders wanted a name related to high quality, to the idea of luxury. Hence the strange name of Air Luxor as I suppose Air Luxury or Air Luxus was difficult to endorse.
Extract from Air Luxor's website:
"As the aim was to provide high quality, personalised executive air transport service, the keyword was luxury and so Air Luxor carne into being."

http://www.airluxor.com/airluxor/default.aspx?action=historia


User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2490 posts, RR: 25
Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 5755 times:

don't understand why they are changing it because of Luxor's bad reputation....

i mean which airline did blow up 3 of theire 3 L-1011's engines in one week? exactly air luxor..


User currently offlineBoeingBus From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1597 posts, RR: 17
Reply 20, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 5748 times:

Quoting WINGS (Reply 13):
As a Portuguese citizen I would be very embarrassed buy this move as their reputation is really bad.

I understand that they are not a well executed airline. But I have to say that they adopted the A330 where right now the Portuguese national airline, TP, is dreaming for. So I give them some credit for at least trying. Air Luxor must face some political pressure for competing with TP and having to deal with the poor airport management (ANA) in LIS. I am sure its not an easy environment for any new airline. So I give some credit where its due.

A name change is needed and yes many here think it was brainless but whatever it is... they are correcting it.

As with TAP Portugal I really wonder if their new livery and marketing strategy is also brainless? What is wrong with having a modern but still maintain its traditional and classic "Air Portugal". I dunno... only time will tell.



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User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 5734 times:

Quoting Stirling (Reply 15):
Quoting SWISSER (Reply 14):
Indeed if it was up to an American it would become Oldcontinental or something like that...

Lame.

lol yes that wan't very funny but he tried, A for effort.

Oldcontinental ends up sounding like a car, how about Air bluewhite  bigthumbsup 


User currently offlineAsianFA From Malaysia, joined Jul 2004, 76 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 5678 times:

By the way..does Air Luxor fly to Sydney on a regular basis or on charters?I was at Sydney airport last sunday and i saw an Air Luxor A330 parked near the Qantas hangars.24 hours later as i was at the airport again..the aircraft was still parked there.How long does the aircraft and flight crew layover in Sydney?

User currently offlineSWISSER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5520 times:

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 21):
Oldcontinental ends up sounding like a car, how about Air bluewhite

Ha! that's a good one too!  bigthumbsup 

Though, seriously, I' am eager to know what they will pick as a name...
I suppose it's not easy to rebrand just like that...


User currently offlineTAP1972 From Portugal, joined Dec 2003, 396 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5411 times:

Just a little history on this.

Air Luxor exists for a long time. Their initial core business was the private jets.
Only in the last 5-6 years or so Air Luxor entered in the charter market and later with some regular flights in Europe.

They bought a few A320's, 2 or 3 old L1011's, and 2 A330's. At this time there were lot of rumours about how they were able to get the money to grow their fleet so rapidly, when the aviation market was decreasing.

Also, there was a story of them owing the airport fees to LGW airport and the airport authorities didn't allow them to take off until everything was paid.

I was told sometime ago that they were owing a lot of money to TAP related to maintenance. Last year 1 of their A320's went to TAP (Cs-TMW) and more recently (CS-TNB), not sure if this was part of an agreement to pay their debt.

And to finalize, there's the case that happenned in Venezuela, where a plane (citiation X) chartered by Air Luxor to a private portuguese businessman, had 2 pax carrying about 450kgs of drugs. The ladies are in prison in Caracas as well as the co-pilot from Air Luxor.

I've travelled with Air Luxor once, from Dublin to Lis. Except for the fact that I didn't have enough legroom, the flight was ok and the service was normal.

Quoting BoeingBus (Reply 20):
Air Luxor must face some political pressure for competing with TP

I'm not sure to what you're referring to, some government intervention is related with some routes to the portuguese islands. People that live there have reduced fares to travel (the rest is supported by the government) if they fly in the company designated by the government. Tap has been choosen because they have a better structure in place to guarantee this regular flights.

Quoting BoeingBus (Reply 20):
having to deal with the poor airport management (ANA) in LIS

That will be equal for the rest of the airlines....unless they don't pay....


25 CV990 : Hi! When this topic came, it imediatelly came to my mind the beautifull L1011-500 that is still at AMS!!!! People can say that it doesn't belong to th
26 Mhodgson : I saw it in SYD back in August, I was told it is doing military charters.
27 TAP1972 : Olá CV990 What does NetJets have to do with Air Luxor? The Citiation X in Caracas belongs to a portuguese businessman that chartered the plane to Ai
28 Pyrex : Netjets Europe was somewhat of a partnership between Air Luxor and Netjets. That is the main reason its headquarters (legally, anyway) are in Lisbon.
29 Post contains images Backfire : I've just found out what the name is...and you're going to be disappointed. Your '**fly' guess is on the right lines. Yuck!
30 TAP1972 : Thanks Pyrex, I wasn't aware of that. and....?
31 Post contains images BuyantUkhaa : Butterfly? Voofly (as in Vueling) Luxofly L1011*Bang*Fly NoFly Sorry, being silly here
32 HEGAN : What about: LK Lisbon Airlines Agur, HEGAN
33 WINGS : Why don't you share it with us all? Regards, Wings
34 BuyantUkhaa : Is it under embargo still?
35 Post contains images BuyantUkhaa : Hint: there are 676 options possible, not more!
36 WINGS : I came across an unconfirmed source that the name that might be chosen to replace Air Luxor might be, HI FLY I don't know about all of you but am a bi
37 SWISSER : Sounds like a LCC? No?
38 Post contains images Kappel : Not another lame name. In that case they should stick with air luxor. Why are all these airlines so devoid of imagination?
39 Trolley Dolley : HI FLY. Sorta sounds like what happens when you take drugs.
40 F27XXX : I GOT IT ! I GOT IT ! LISBOAir Umm . . on second thought . . that looks kinda bad now that I see it in print .. people would make jokes .. Tony
41 CV990 : Hi! Seriously, I hope that those guys of Air Luxor at least this time will find a name that connects with our country in ANY WAY!!! because like some
42 DarthRandall : Then you know how we feel about American Airlines!
43 SWISSER : Well today we are going to know the official name! It's exactly 5.00 am here in europe (after a nightshift at BRU for me) so I suppose we won't have t
44 Post contains images Backfire : Because I've been given the information under a formal embargo, and I'm not willing to break that trust... ...although if you find out for yourself t
45 Post contains links TAP1972 : Check these sites: http://www.presstur.com/site/news.asp?news=3549 http://www.hiflyvirtual.org/ PS: Many thanks to the person that sent them to me.
46 LPLAspotter : Hmmmm, lets see: Air Aziete (portugal is famous for its olives) Western Iberian Iberian West Lisboa Iberia Air Galleon They should have a contest! Che
47 TAP1972 : what about air laundry.... or Air Debt
48 Post contains links WINGS : I did a quick search in Modified Airliner Photos and came up with these two results. The Air Luxor colors look excellent on the B787. Too bad Boeing h
49 Backfire : Well - it's officially Hi Fly. An A330 to be painted first, new livery with blue fin and five light-blue stars.
50 Post contains images BHXFAOTIPYYC : Hi Fly - Didn't Afroman have a hit with this last year ? What's with these daft names - it was bad enough when charter company "Yes" became "White - c
51 WINGS : Hey I like Whites new logo. Its clean and simple. I personally like it more than Taps color scheme. For sure. Certo. Regards, Wings
52 BHXFAOTIPYYC : I agree, White's colour scheme is excellent, ... it's just the name I don't like. I don't see any point in names like "Yes" or "White" or "Hi Fly" - t
53 RicardoFG : HI-FLY! Now it reallt sounds like charter trash...hey and the pink uniforms will go well with the name! ugh!
54 Post contains images BHXFAOTIPYYC : Well, true to form, I just got an email 5 mins ago from LK Comercial in LIS stating that they are cancelling their Porto Seguro and Salvador flights (
55 BoeingBus : Not very hard to beat. It's all marginal stuff... nothing too exciting. Cheers
56 Rj777 : I think these airlines need to stop using the word FLY in their names. We know their purpose is to fly, but geeze!
57 USADreamliner : they compete against White ? In that case, they can change the name to Black.Maybe Grey.
58 Moe777 : A Air Luxor A330 has been parked at SYD airport for the past 2 months outside the Qantas jetbase 4 the past 2 months, any reason why?
59 MIAMIx707 : ..lol Yep, the current genXers marketing geeks go to work high. I knew it was gonna be the white plane blue tail combo. I hate being right these days
60 Post contains images PhotoLPPT : Hi, Remember some years ago there was an airline called 'Swissair' that was high on debt and suddenly that airline was gone and a new one was born tha
61 Post contains links Kappel : Same thing happened to me, on an Surinam Airways flight in 1986. We were on route from PMB to AMS, but being in a DC8-63 (N4935C, the "Stanvaste"), w
62 Post contains links Breiz : It took more time than announced, but it is now done: the new name of Air Luxor is "Hifly". http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/...0-17-portugal-airli
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