TGV From France, joined Dec 2004, 869 posts, RR: 22 Posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1587 times:
AF 460 CDG-CCS of the 7th has been delayed by 24 hours. Today 2 flights will operate, with one hour interval (scheduled arrivals 14.10 and 15.10). So you maybe able to get interesting views.
Avoid 777 with 3-4-3 config in Y ! They are real sardine cans. (AF/KL for example)
Lamedianaranja From Venezuela, joined Nov 2004, 1246 posts, RR: 23 Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1574 times:
Will both flights be operated by B744 or has one been changed into maybe A340 or T7? That would also be a nice photo opportunity. If some of the spotters/photographers went down to the beach for the day they might see them or even take a picture.
This is the info of the delayed flight AF460A, the other one left at 12.10AM, ETA 15.19
Flight left from Paris (CDG) at 11:40 AM on October 7, 2005
Returns from Paris (CDG) at 1:45 PM on October 7, 2005
Scheduled departure from Paris (CDG) at 12:00 PM on October 8, 2005
Scheduled arrival in Caracas (CCS) at 3:10 PM on October 8, 2005
Then it says this was due to a labour dispute beyond the airlines control. Any explanation? I would understand a strike or so but then it wouldn't even leave, right?
TGV From France, joined Dec 2004, 869 posts, RR: 22 Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1548 times:
Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 1): Will both flights be operated by B744 or has one been changed into maybe A340 or T7?
Good question ! I assumed it was another 744, but I have not info about that. It is difficult to be sure with AF website, as it seems to have some problems to manage two flights on the same day called 460 (normal flight for today) and 460A (delayed flight), since both appear as 460.
And so we are now waiting for the "official" info from FlySSC !
Avoid 777 with 3-4-3 config in Y ! They are real sardine cans. (AF/KL for example)
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9130 posts, RR: 13 Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1538 times:
I remember we had the same problem when I was working for Polar Air Cargo in AMS. A flight was delayed but we had another flight the next day with the same flight number which caused a lot of problems to our system and confused the employees as they needed to see very closely which cargo was booked on which flight for the handling agent. In other words, a total mess but eventually everything was correct fortunately.
Flpuck6 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2119 posts, RR: 33 Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1490 times:
Both flights to CCS are operated by 744s, according to the website.
S.P.A.S. From Liechtenstein, joined Mar 2001, 954 posts, RR: 3 Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1441 times:
Lamedianaranja,
I see you post from Venezuela. A few years ago I visited CCS and it had a nice and open air viewing area on International Terminal and also some area on the domestic terminal (where all Aeropostal flights park).
Chiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 18 Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1375 times:
Quoting S.P.A.S. (Reply 5): Are those viewing falicities still available?
No, both are closed. The international due to the construction of new arrival facilities and the domestic one probably due to security reasons. Very sad, as both were great spotting areas.
BTW: Both AF leaving at 16:50 local, both 744. Must be a nice view !
And: again, Santa Barbara arriving from MAD and leaving to MAD, both cancelled.
FlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7313 posts, RR: 60 Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1283 times:
Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 1): Then it says this was due to a labour dispute beyond the airlines control. Any explanation? I would understand a strike or so but then it wouldn't even leave, right?
AF460 leaving CDG friday was cancelled because of a technical problem on the B744 that needed long time to be fixed (problems on the main landing gear). As no other a/c was available, the flight was cancelled and re-schedulled the next day in the morning.
That's why two flights AF460A and AF460B, both operated by a B744, arrived in CCS on Saturday 8th.
One of them returned to Paris the same evening as AF461, the second one "spent the night" at CCS and left the day after (as there was not two Crew available to operate both flights to Paris on Saturday)
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