Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Can Anyone Identify This Piece Of 9/11 Wreckage?  
User currently offlineHmmmm... From Canada, joined May 1999, 2109 posts, RR: 5
Posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11619 times:

http://www.nyartlab.com/bombing/DSC07783.html

Thanks


An optimist robs himself of the joy of being pleasantly surprised
57 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11615 times:

My vote goes with a turbine core.

User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11588 times:

The diameter doesn't look big enough for an engine, so my guess would be that you're looking at the remains of the APU...

User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11576 times:

Unless I've lost it... aren't most airline APU's just small turbines?

User currently offlineAviation From Australia, joined Dec 2004, 1143 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11575 times:

The remains of an engine. The round housings you can see are the turbine core sections with the turbine inside.

Actually all of the bent pipes you can see coming out of the top would be the fuel inlets, no?


Thanks,
Aaron J Nicoli



Signed, Aaron Nicoli - Trans World Airlines Collector
User currently offlineUadc8contrail From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1782 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11571 times:

i agree with mdorbust, turbine core or maybe it could be part of the the main landing gear


bus driver.......move that bus:)
User currently offlineHmmmm... From Canada, joined May 1999, 2109 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11571 times:

That was my feeling. Looks like an engine but no where near big enough.


An optimist robs himself of the joy of being pleasantly surprised
User currently offlineHalophila From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 646 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11525 times:

I remember seeing that the morning of 9/11 during the live telecast. Absolutely terrible memories of that day. RIP all who perished. But I do remember the news reporter saying that it was an engine. IIRC this was a few blocks away from the WTC. So sad...


Flown on 707, 717, 727, 732 733 734 735 73G 738 739 741 742 743 744 74SP 757 753 762 763 772 773 77W D10 DC9 M11 M80 M87
User currently offlineHmmmm... From Canada, joined May 1999, 2109 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11512 times:

Though I don't know what a demolished APU would look like, I would have to guess this is it.

Thanks for the input thus far guys.



An optimist robs himself of the joy of being pleasantly surprised
User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11416 times:

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 2):
The diameter doesn't look big enough for an engine

It's part of the core engine, my guess part of the hot section. You need to remember when you see pictures of an intact engine it has all the fan section, accessory section, by pass sections and bleed air plumbing attached which makes it look much bigger. All that has been ripped away leaving just the core. Like the AE3007 on the ERJ.. I was shocked at how small it really is with all that removed. Like 50% smaller...!!

[Edited 2005-10-09 05:07:52]


"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlineAviation From Australia, joined Dec 2004, 1143 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 11347 times:

Quoting Uadc8contrail (Reply 5):
part of the the main landing gear

How do you figure MLG!

Id say its what i said above of the APU it is a small jet engine and this is probably it!


Thanks,
Aaron J Nicoli

[Edited 2005-10-09 05:34:39]


Signed, Aaron Nicoli - Trans World Airlines Collector
User currently offlineGEnxPower From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 121 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 11239 times:

I disgaree. I think it is the engine core of the 767.

My guess :

What we are looking at right in the middle, the smaller protruding ring, is the centerline HP Shaft (for high power spool). And you can see little hooks just around it which I would guess are fuel nozzles for the combustor. And we are looking right before first stage HPT turbine, right at turbine inlet.

Many of you have said it looks small, but I think it is becuase we are only looking at the core and not at the entire engine. The Fan, which is the 80% of the engine's size is probably bigger and is missing from this. It looks about the size of the core. Turbofan with bypass ratio of 6 or 7 would have a core(high pressure system) this size I believe.

I don't believe APU has that much cooling holes around combustor regions.

Agree? Comments?

[Edited 2005-10-09 06:20:52]

User currently offlineRedFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4376 posts, RR: 28
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 11205 times:

I remember reading a chronology of the events of that day. I remember at one point of the account it described how one of the engines from Flight 11 passed through the North Tower and followed a trajectory that brought it down several blocks away at the corner of an intersection where it killed a pedestrian. My guess is this picture is of that engine (or what remains of it).


My other home is a Piper Cherokee 180C
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 11157 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 9):
It's part of the core engine, my guess part of the hot section. You need to remember when you see pictures of an intact engine it has all the fan section, accessory section, by pass sections and bleed air plumbing attached which makes it look much bigger.

I had considered that, but it still looked small. That is, until I found this photo (which includes a human being) that gives the pictures some comparable scales.

View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Tim Perkins


I think you're correct--it is an engine, and not the APU...


User currently offlineMX757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 628 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 11022 times:

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 13):
think you're correct--it is an engine, and not the APU...

You are correct also. The piece of engine wreakage is the high pressure turbine section with part of the combustion section attached to it. I'm not sure if it's a P&W or a GE.



Is it broke...? Yeah I'll fix it.
User currently offlineUadc8contrail From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1782 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 10996 times:

Quoting Aviation (Reply 10):
Quoting Uadc8contrail (Reply 5):
part of the the main landing gear

How do you figure MLG!

Id say its what i said above of the APU it is a small jet engine and this is probably it!

aviation,
if your going to quote me....quote the entire text i wrote.....im from the art bell school of conspiracy so get a life ok....it does look like from the PICTURE that IT could have come from the mlg hub...but since im just a clerk at quiktrip that spots on the weekend at gyr then im not in the same caliber as your grade school caliber a/p license that you picked up at in&out at lax



bus driver.......move that bus:)
User currently offlineBuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2907 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 10681 times:

There are in fact more pictures of the same object:

http://www.nyartlab.com/bombing/DSC07781.html

The site does not allow direct linking of the picture.



I scratch my head, therefore I am.
User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 10550 times:

Not an APU.
Not a wheel>

Engine, turbine core for certain.

That center shaft is six inches in diameter!!
If it was an APU it would be twenty thousand horsepower! Big enough to power a ship.

You could carry the average APU turbine in your arms.



Happiness is not seeing another trite Ste. Maarten photo all week long.
User currently offlineUSAF336TFS From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1445 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 10513 times:

It's the engine core.. Found 5 blocks away from the WTC site. It's from the second 767 aircraft that hit the south tower. Was hauled away 9/12 and is being treated as evidence in the crimminal cases pending.


336th Tactical Fighter Squadron, 4th Fighter Wing, Seymour Johnson AFB
User currently offlineJetmatt777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2832 posts, RR: 33
Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 10456 times:

Quoting Aviation (Reply 4):
The remains of an engine. The round housings you can see are the turbine core sections with the turbine inside.

Thats what i was thinking



No info
User currently offline777WT From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 877 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 9911 times:

Quoting GEnxPower (Reply 11):
And you can see little hooks just around it which I would guess are fuel nozzles for the combustor. And we are looking right before first stage HPT turbine, right at turbine inlet.

Fuel nozzles wouldn't look like that for a 767 turbine.

Fuel nozzles run parallel to the airflow.

They may well could have been bleed air or cooling air for the turbine blades.


User currently offlineWill From Australia, joined May 1999, 79 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 9424 times:

G'day,

Without a doubt... It is the engine core... !!!

Look at the shaft size.....and combustor can configuration and the size of the one damaged fuel nozzle that is visible...

APU fuel nozzles are way smaller than the one in the photo...

The shaft size says it all for me...It is the engine core.......

Kind Regards,

Will..........


User currently offlineWill From Australia, joined May 1999, 79 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 9400 times:

BTW,

G'day HMMMMM,

How yah going.....???

Regards,

Will.......


User currently offlineJepstein From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 76 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 8303 times:

Definently the rear of the engine housing.

User currently offlinePilot21 From Ireland, joined Oct 1999, 1385 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 7790 times:

Just looking through the rest of the photos, there is one very interesting one of a load of baggage containers stacked up on top of each other under the FDR, obviously they have been collected from around the area and stored, but the very fact that so many of the survived largely intact is quite amazing when you consider the destruction that went on that day.

Link below:

http://www.nyartlab.com/bombing/09-13/DSC08019.html

Rgds



Aircraft I've flown: A300/A310/A320/A321/A330/A340/B727/B732/B733/B734/B735/B738/B741/B742/B744/DC10/MD80/IL62/Bae146/AR
25 Post contains images Ilovenz : No, that was the APU for one of the 9/11 UFO's, which explains why it's so big. Yeah, it's definitely an engine core. At first I thought it may have b
26 OPNLguy : With all due respect, I don't think it's amazing, I think it's impossible... It seems more likely that these containers under the highway were NOT ac
27 Pilot21 : OPNLguy While I don't disagree with you that it should be impossible that these things survived the impact, why would you bring in baggage containers
28 Post contains links and images MissedApproach : Well, not quite, but I agree that the subject photo is not of an APU. Any APU I've seen is always adapted from a helicopter engine since a shaft driv
29 SATL382G : In a crisis situation you use what's available. NTSB probably requested the airlines provide storage space and a means to package/transport any debri
30 SWISSER : I think it is the engine of the UA762, it flew into the corner of the south tower and partially struck out on the 90° wall, if you look again at thos
31 EADC8 : That is absolutely from UA 175. The photo in this link shows it landed on the corner of Murray St. and I believe Church St. Murray is about 5 blocks
32 Halophila : I'm afraid I have to agree with OPNLguy on this one, I don't think it would be possible for the baggage containers to survive the impact, but I do un
33 FI642 : Without a doubt, hot section of the engine. Airlines do lend,rent,borrow cans from each other. Some carriers rent or lease cans from a company called
34 Omoo : same here
35 Post contains links and images September11 : I believe it's United 175 engine #2 -- actual photo United 175 engine #2 View Large View MediumPhoto © Alastair T. Gardiner - WorldAirImages
36 777STL : There's no way in heck those came out of one of the planes that hit the WTC. Perhaps they were being used as a model for searchers to examine so they
37 Daron4000 : Actually, it is from UA 175, as I saw it in a documentary (Jules Verne?) and they specifically talked about how it landed basically intact on the grou
38 Hmmmm... : pilot21, you can see in that photo that there are also luggage containers from Ansett and Qantas and Continental. All donated for the purpose of colle
39 Post contains links Hmmmm... : Luggage containers http://www.nyartlab.com/bombing/09-13/DSC08019.html
40 777STL : So the plane blew up into a billion pieces in a great fireball but the luggage cans survived unscathed? Even just the fall from that height would hav
41 Toering : Ya, know....... I read in a newspaper that this was part of the landing gear. However, I don't agree. Goes to show how accurate our news is here in t
42 EMBQA : How the heck can you tell it came from the RH engine ...?? Let alone if its from the UAL or AA 767..?? Any further talk of the 'cans' being from the
43 Ikramerica : Will this "conspiracy" never die? All it does is give moderate Islam leaders an opportunity to deny reality. Just ask the Imam almost hired by the NYF
44 Greasespot : They can tell from the engine serial numbers. ALL the components have S/N's that are tracked by the engine operators. So if you can find one S/N you c
45 Post contains links B744F : wrong http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/156...v=glance&n=283155&s=books&v=glance http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/156...v=glance&n=283155&s=books&v=gl
46 B744F : And on the other side of the coin, all it does is give American leaders an opportunity to deny reality and make any necessary changes to defend this
47 Newark777 : Even if for some reason they did come from the planes, what does that prove? It would prove absolutely nothing, other than the cans are more sturdy t
48 Post contains images Boeing4ever : Are you one of the fools who believes that the WTC was brought down by explosive charges too? Believe it or not (and I'm sure you don't as most consp
49 777STL : How did we digress from talking about these cans, to conspiracy theories?
50 Hmmmm... : I know what happened. Someone mentioned that the thing landed almost intact on the street. But someone else thought he was referring to the luggage co
51 Wdleiser : The same way we go from talking about A320's vs 737NG's to A vs. B war bashing the A380 and 787.
52 ExPratt : It is the core of the engine from the rear compressor case to the rear of the combustor. The fuel nozzle manifolds, the combustor liner with the large
53 B744F : Not even close to the truth
54 Newark777 : So do you have an evidence, or are you going to continue with the six word responses? Harry
55 Pawsleykat : I would have said the thing that the wheel fits on to, but then again, I am stupid. DAMN, I hate being 13
56 Antares : I'm just amazed at all the posturing going on over this. When the attacks occurred there was non-stop live television reporting of the event. We all s
57 Post contains images Boeing4ever : Then by all means fill us in on your version of the truth...I could use the laugh. B4e-Forever New Frontiers
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Can Anyone Identify The Reg Of This TG A300? posted Thu Jul 24 2003 22:42:21 by ZSSNC
Can Anyone Identify This Plane/Airline? posted Tue Oct 4 2005 17:21:30 by Sabena332
Can Anyone Identify This Plane? posted Wed Mar 23 2005 00:53:22 by Yanksn4
Can Anyone Identify This Aircraft? posted Sun Jan 23 2005 05:25:50 by FrontierCPT
Can Anyone Identify This A/c? posted Sun Dec 5 2004 16:42:41 by JetBlast
Can Anyone Identify This Plane? posted Mon Dec 22 2003 11:38:32 by GulfstreamGuy
Can Anyone Identify This Royal Airlines Aircraft? posted Fri Feb 8 2002 23:43:17 by Gmonney
Can Anyone Identify This Airline posted Tue Nov 20 2001 15:38:40 by Daks
Can Anybody Identify This Helicopter? posted Wed Nov 22 2006 09:28:56 by Spetouss
Can Anyone ID This Plane? posted Thu Feb 23 2006 21:49:40 by Woady