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Northwest, Delta Owe $414,700 To Lansing Airport  
User currently offlineKarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3094 posts, RR: 10
Posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2634 times:

Courtesy: Lansing State Journal

Northwest, Delta Owe $414,700 To Lansing Airport

http://www.lsj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...51007/NEWS03/510070324/1004/news03

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User currently offlineJetdeltamsy From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2987 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2468 times:

I would imagine Lansing can kiss that half a million bucks goodbye.


Tired of airline bankruptcies....EA/PA/TW and finally DL.
User currently offlineByrdluvs747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2349 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2454 times:

Why?

Can't the airport just lock DL/NW's gate doors until payment is made?



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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12128 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2427 times:

I don't see what the problem is. Bankruptcy only protects DL and NW from commerical and corprate debts, not any owed to government agencies. Capital City Airport is owned by the City of Lansing, MI. The Bankruptcy Judge will see that every airport that is still owed money will get paid. It is only a question of when the airports will be paid.

While Lansing may be owed $415K, ALT and MSP are owed millions by DL and NW. Since they are the mega-carriers at their respective airports, ALT and MSP would loose a much larger percentage of their budgets than Lansing would. But, you don't hear anything from ALT or MSP, do you? Do you know why? It is because ALT and MSP know that all airports are going to be paid for landing fees, fuel handling fees, aircraft parking fees and terminal leases.

This is not a problem, and Capital City should have access to enough of the City's Lawyers to have already told them that.

My guess is they want to get rid of someone or something and is using the DL and NW bankruptcies as a scapegoat explaniation to the press.


User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7531 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2394 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 3):
While Lansing may be owed $415K, ALT and MSP are owed millions by DL and NW.

Im guessing your talking about Atlanta? ATL  Wink



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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12128 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2365 times:

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 4):
Im guessing your talking about Atlanta? ATL

Yes, my mistake, several times.

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 2):
Why?

Can't the airport just lock DL/NW's gate doors until payment is made?

No, the BK Judge will not let them do that. Nor, can the airport withold fuel from them.


User currently offlineAA54Heavy From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 189 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2296 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 5):

No, the BK Judge will not let them do that. Nor, can the airport withold fuel from them.

Chapter 11 is so go for so many people.....hmmmm



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User currently offlineATCRick From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 772 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2271 times:
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Well no wonder NW can't pay its LAN tab. It's spending all that money starting service to where ever Allegiant flies. Sheesh.


natch!!
User currently offlineFlyibaby From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1017 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2259 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 5):
No, the BK Judge will not let them do that. Nor, can the airport withold fuel from them

Untrue. Airport Authorities and Vendors do have the right to do this. An example would be in the case of Midway II, when San Jose Jet Center refused to fuel the daily SJC-RDU flight until they recieved a wire transfer for purchase. The Airport/Vendors may not be able to forcibly collect for payments, but they can withhold services for current payment of services.


User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3795 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2232 times:

Quoting ATCRick (Reply 7):
Well no wonder NW can't pay its LAN tab. It's spending all that money starting service to where ever Allegiant flies. Sheesh.

*stands and applauds*


User currently offlineLN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1908 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2195 times:

Quoting Flyibaby (Reply 8):
Untrue. Airport Authorities and Vendors do have the right to do this. An example would be in the case of Midway II, when San Jose Jet Center refused to fuel the daily SJC-RDU flight until they recieved a wire transfer for purchase. The Airport/Vendors may not be able to forcibly collect for payments, but they can withhold services for current payment of services.

I beleive it is so that they can demand payment of services rendered AFTER Ch.11 was declared. But debt that was accumulated before Ch.11, is 'locked' and under the authority of the court.



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User currently offlineJetdeltamsy From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2987 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2122 times:

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 2):
Can't the airport just lock DL/NW's gate doors until payment is made?

Not while under court protection. The airports are required to supply gates as usual. That's the law. Not always fair, but that's the way it is.



Tired of airline bankruptcies....EA/PA/TW and finally DL.
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