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Do UK Airplanes Migrate In Winter?  
User currently offlineArt From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 3382 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2093 times:

In the UK there is a heavy demand for non-schedule airline air travel to the Mediterranean in July/August. Where do the extra aircraft required come from and where do they migrate to in winter?  Smile

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User currently offlineEgmcman From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 898 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2067 times:

Quoting Art (Thread starter):
In the UK there is a heavy demand for non-schedule airline air travel to the Mediterranean in July/August. Where do the extra aircraft required come from and where do they migrate to in winter?

Skyservice of Canada have one their A319's operating from Stansted. Also First Choice Airways have leased two A320's from Canada.

Hope this helps

Egmcman


User currently offlineAlcregular From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2004 times:

TCX usually send some to Apple Vacations for a few months, but charters usually become busy at the end of December, not only for the Christmas and New Year period and Santa day trips, but the ski charters too.

[Edited 2005-10-09 21:40:29]

User currently offlineUswyjer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1981 times:

The past couple years USA3000 has wetleased a couple Thomas Cook A320s... using a hybrid scheme.

User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1950 times:

Some Mytravel and First Choice aircraft go to Skyservice, some Thomas Cook to Apple Vacations, some Excel aircraft go to Kelowna Flightcraft and Zoom.

Mytravel and Skyservice have an agreement, where Skyservice send aircraft over here in summer when the demand is higher, then they all get sent back + some MYT aircraft in the winter, where the demand is higher in Canada. With Excel, they send some of their aircraft over to Canadian operators in the winter, but lease from Islandsflug and Air Atlanta in the summer.


User currently offlineRivet42 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 818 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1789 times:

Hi,

there are a lot fewer 'spare' aircraft in winter than you might think, due to the UK ski holiday business, which lasts from mid December to Mid April.

The issue is really what happens to the aircraft in late Spring and Autumn - that's when useage will be at its lowest!

PhiL P



I travel, therefore I am.
User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6920 posts, RR: 63
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1745 times:

Dan-Air used to send their 727s to Sun Country for the winter...

User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1616 times:

Quoting Rivet42 (Reply 5):
there are a lot fewer 'spare' aircraft in winter than you might think, due to the UK ski holiday business, which lasts from mid December to Mid April.

True, but the ski flights only occur mainly on saturdays and sundays. Also the ski flights in the winter, are much shorter than the greek flights in the summer, so they can fit more or as many flights in, with less aircraft. To be honest, not that many aircraft are leased off over the winter, but during the low season weekdays, a lot of aircraft will be sitting idle at Gatwick/Manchester etc for days at a time.

The agreement between Skyservice and Mytravel benefits both airlines, as they both have extra aircraft when they most need it


User currently offlinePetertenthije From Netherlands, joined Jul 2001, 3369 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1573 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 6):
Dan-Air used to send their 727s to Sun Country for the winter...

Now Transavia supplies Sun Country with planes, 738s. Usually they stay in HV livery but get Sun Country titles. From time to time HV leases planes from Sun Country, like last summer.



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24936 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1556 times:

Quoting Planesarecool (Reply 4):
With Excel, they send some of their aircraft over to Canadian operators in the winter, but lease from Islandsflug and Air Atlanta in the summer.

Note that Excel, Islandsflug and Air Atlanta are all the same company now.
Should soon be a few 747s in Excel Airways c/s in fact



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User currently offlineNoelG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1530 times:

Don't forget that aside from the ski charters, there are also the private charters for company charters etc that take place - and there are more of those than you would think!

It is extremely difficult to get availability in the summer as they are already committed to the tour operators, but in the winter there is more availability so a number are used for those!


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