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Commercial Routes Over The South Pole.  
User currently offlineHimmat01 From India, joined Dec 2004, 1047 posts, RR: 6
Posted (9 years 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 22754 times:

While there are a lot of commercial air routes over the north pole. Are there any regular routes over the south pole?

Thanks in advance,

Himmat


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User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4186 posts, RR: 40
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 22746 times:

Aerolineas Argentinas operates the southernmost (scheduled) commercial route in the world: BUE-AKL, around S50 - S55.
JNB-SYD with QF/SA probably ranks second, which goes far until S45�.

Commercial flights are not allowed to overfly Antartica, for security reasons except
Boeing flew two years ago with 773ER from SYD to GIG, which crossed exactly the south pole.I think it has to do with ETOPS ,since most of antarctica is out of ETOPS range.
Thus there is NO ETOPS rating for the Southern Pacific and
That's why AR and LA fly it with quads. (AR 747/A340, LA A340).

Regards

BM

[Edited 2005-10-10 09:55:58]


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User currently offlineAR1300 From Argentina, joined Feb 2005, 1740 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 22742 times:

not right over the pole, but very close to it, is AR flight from EZE to AKL (I think via Rio Gallegos)


Mike



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User currently offlineBjornstrom From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 329 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 22702 times:

I always think about NZ901 when we discuss flying over the South Pole:
NZ901 and MT Erebus



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User currently offlineTrolley Dolley From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 22693 times:

The only commercial flights over the Antarctic continent are the Qantas 744 flightseeing trips organised over by Croydon travel. The reason there are no flights over the ice is because, unlike the north, the south pole does not lie on the great circle route for too many points. It's really only New Zealand and South Africa and Australia and Brazil that are linked by a great circle route over the polar ice.

The 773er test flight was from Sydney to Recife. A Pan Am 747Sp flew over the pole when it was making the anniversary polar global circumnavigation n 1977 to celebrate Pan Am's 50th birthday. When the Pan Am flight crossed the pole, the men in the bases wanted to hear a lady's voice, and they were in luck as guests on the Pan Am flight included Miss Universe, America, Great Britain and South Africa on board to chat to the ice-bound lads.


User currently offlineLPLAspotter From Portugal, joined Jan 2005, 682 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 22643 times:

I just read Bob Buck's book "North Star Over My Shoulder" (not exactly sure about the exact title) in which he flies over the south pole in a Boeing 707 called "Polar Cat" which belonged to Flying Tigers. The route was Buenos Aires - Auckland (he deviated south to fly over the pole). Very good read.


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User currently offlineAntares From Australia, joined Jun 2004, 1402 posts, RR: 39
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 22630 times:

The 777-300ER demonstration flight did not cross the south pole or even get to within sight of the edge of Antarctica.

Boeing had a diagram showing it would go over Antarctica but it was BS.

The Rio Gallegos flights ended years ago. They saw QF and Aerolineas Argentinas 742s. Today's flights go non-stop both ways between Auckland and Buenos Aires.

Antares

ps. The Croydon travel sightseeing flights are fantastic but must be loosing their appeal as the newly announced schedule of southern summer charters seems like the smallest offering for many years. Maybe Qantas just didn't have as much availability. Anyone know more?


User currently offlineMarambio From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2004, 1160 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 22619 times:

Quoting AR1300 (Reply 2):
not right over the pole, but very close to it, is AR flight from EZE to AKL (I think via Rio Gallegos)

Mike, get updated!  Wink

Aerolíneas flies 4x weekly (GRU)-EZE-AKL-SYD. The stop-over at RGL was eliminated in the early 1990s, after they replaced the 742s for A342s on that route.

By the way, Shana Tovah!

Saludos,
Marambio



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User currently offlineAR1300 From Argentina, joined Feb 2005, 1740 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 22413 times:

Quoting Marambio (Reply 7):
was eliminated in the early 1990s

 crazy  WTF???!!!! it took me ten years to realize!!!!

Quoting Marambio (Reply 7):
Shana Tovah!

Shana Tova to you too!!! for a new happy new year!!!  champagne 

 Smile Mike



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User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8969 posts, RR: 39
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 22354 times:

Quoting Marambio (Reply 7):

Aerolíneas flies 4x weekly (GRU)-EZE-AKL-SYD. The stop-over at RGL was eliminated in the early 1990s, after they replaced the 742s for A342s on that route.

Ehh, not sure about early 90s, Marcos... IIRC, my grandparents travelled to Australia/NZ in 1996 and I'm pretty sure they stoppped over in RGL.

My aunt did the same a few years later, but I don't remember the routing exactly.

Cheers  Smile



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User currently offlineBrasuca From Brazil, joined Mar 2004, 717 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 22193 times:

Quoting RootsAir (Reply 1):
RootsAir

humm.. Write your own text, instead of copying my exact words in another thread, of the same subject:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions...general_aviation/read.main/2300322

hehe  Smile



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User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5351 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 22071 times:

Quoting PPVRA (Reply 9):
Ehh, not sure about early 90s, Marcos... IIRC, my grandparents travelled to Australia/NZ in 1996

EZE-AKL for AR became non stop in 1999 with the introduction of the A340's. The return flight was always non stop AKL-EZE.

Quoting Antares (Reply 6):
The Rio Gallegos flights ended years ago. They saw QF and Aerolineas Argentinas 742s.

QF didn't fly to Argentina before 1998 did they? I thought their only flights to Argentina were from November 1998 to June 2002 with 744's SYD-AKL-EZE.


User currently offlineBackfire From Germany, joined Oct 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 22053 times:

Quoting Himmat01 (Thread starter):
While there are a lot of commercial air routes over the north pole. Are there any regular routes over the south pole?

South Pole routes will always be more limited simply because there's very few major city pairs whose shortest connecting route crosses the Antarctic.

If you study a map of the southern hemisphere you'll find that you have to operate between cities such as Buenos Aires and Perth to transit the South Pole.


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