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SkyWest To Operate 22 More CRJ700's For DL  
User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6646 posts, RR: 24
Posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3404 times:

SkyWest will convert ASA's 18 remaining CRJ200 orders to CRJ700's plus add four more for a total of 22 CRJ700 deliveries.

I'd rather see it be an order for E170's, but I'm guessing the CRJ700 will be more cost effective to operate. Hopefully, many of these CRJ700's will replace CRJ200's...giving DL more capacity at a lower CASM.

Ideally, DL can also get more E170's (via Republic) to operate the longer routes and help replace the 732.

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/051011/115720.html?.v=1

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User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3393 times:

Quoting FlyPNS1 (Thread starter):
SkyWest will convert ASA's 18 remaining CRJ200 orders to CRJ700's plus add four more for a total of 22 CRJ700 deliveries.

Excellent, more CR7s instead of the dreaded CRJs. Doubt these will replace that many CRJs, at least not directly. At least they are more comfortable and more efficient than the 50-seaters.

Quoting FlyPNS1 (Thread starter):
I'd rather see it be an order for E170's, but I'm guessing the CRJ700 will be more cost effective to operate.

Yup, most likely. Skywest is a CRJ-only operator, if you exclude the EMB-120s, and it wouldn't make much sense for them to add another fleet type.

Quoting FlyPNS1 (Thread starter):
Ideally, DL can also get more E170's (via Republic) to operate the longer routes and help replace the 732.

Hopefully, the E70s offer a lot of potential for DL, perhaps even the E75s as well.
Speaking of which, they seat more than 70, but with the new scope clauses limited at 86 seats, that's not a problem.
What is the general limit of 70-seaters DCI can operate anyway? With these orders, ASA and Comair will operate a total of 80 CR7s, plus 16 E70s at Shuttle. That's a total of 96, hopefully there is still space for even more additions.


User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6646 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3356 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 1):
What is the general limit of 70-seaters DCI can operate anyway?

Under the current agreement with DALPA, DL can operate 125 70-seaters, plus up to an additional 25 more 70-seaters if DL mainline reaches certain growth targets. However, the current agreement is going to get rewritten during the bankruptcy process.

In DL's initial proposal to DALPA, they requested the authority to operate up to 200 79-seaters.

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 1):
Speaking of which, they seat more than 70, but with the new scope clauses limited at 86 seats, that's not a problem.

The current agreement does not allow any carrier to operate flights for DL with greater than 70 seats. But again, that is likely to change whenever DALPA/DL get a new contract written.


User currently offlineDAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3301 times:

The CRJ 700 is rumored to be a nightmare of mx problems. After having experienced several delays that were mx related (electrical) I certainly believe it to be true.

I wish they had opted for the E-170/175 instead; a much more comfortable aircraft.



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User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3269 times:

Quoting FlyPNS1 (Thread starter):
Ideally, DL can also get more E170's (via Republic) to operate the longer routes and help replace the 732.

How can a 70 seater replace a 110 seater?


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3167 times:

Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 2):
Under the current agreement with DALPA, DL can operate 125 70-seaters, plus up to an additional 25 more 70-seaters if DL mainline reaches certain growth targets

Cool, 29 more E70s *fingers crossed*.

Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 2):
In DL's initial proposal to DALPA, they requested the authority to operate up to 200 79-seaters.

Nice thought, though I doubt DALPA would allow that many, 150 at most IMO.

Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 2):
The current agreement does not allow any carrier to operate flights for DL with greater than 70 seats. But again, that is likely to change whenever DALPA/DL get a new contract written.

Really not? Could have sworn the scope clauses already allowed DCI to operate 70+ seaters under certain circumstances.

Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 4):
How can a 70 seater replace a 110 seater?

Via schedule adjustments, and improved loadfactors vs a 732.


User currently offlineBoeing7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3149 times:

Quoting FlyPNS1 (Thread starter):
I'd rather see it be an order for E170's, but I'm guessing the CRJ700 will be more cost effective to operate.

Agreed, the cost is a wash given price changes since the last purchases of both. Latest info shows SkyWest CR7 direct cost at $1827 an hour and latest E-170 cost at $1707.

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 1):
Excellent, more CR7s instead of the dreaded CRJs.

It's the same skinny tube with no legroom that they think they can get away with on running longer routes because of the better cost structure.

Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 4):
How can a 70 seater replace a 110 seater?

When the 110 seater which costs twice as much to operate because age is only 60% full, it's a pretty damn good replacement.


User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6167 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3021 times:

DAYFlyer: The CR7 was a MX problem , but the bugs seem to be getting worked out of them. I can speak from the perspective of Horizon that they are 100% better then the first 2 years they were in service. I's agree with you that they are a electrical nightmare. Almost every mechanical we take with the CR7 is electrical and is repaired by avionics guys.But the plane is getting better and words getting out on how to fix it.

ASSFO



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