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Lan Chile New Airbus Order  
User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5236 posts, RR: 51
Posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 6114 times:

I was reading another forum that LA just placed today a new order for 25 A320 plus 15 options for delivery in 2006.

According to article, this makes a new total of 59 frames of the Airbus 320 family order by LA; does anybody has the exact breakdown?

Can someone confirm?


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User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1906 posts, RR: 27
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6018 times:

Wooh!
So, many more beauty a/c for south american airlines! Very nice!

They'll compete with TACA for the newest-aircraft ailine, very nice... Hopefully, Venezuela will be in that competition soon!



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User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8977 posts, RR: 39
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5921 times:

Supposedly A319s and 20s powered by International Aero Engines V2500 A5 (don't know much about engines, I just copy/pasted the name, lol). According to the article I read, they will be used for domestic flights within Argentina, Peru and Chile.

Btw, how many engine types does LAN fly on their A32Xs? I know they became the launch costumer for the PW6000, but what did they fly before? Are they adding yet another engine type?

Sorry if this is a load of BS, don't really know much about engines/engine manufacturers....

Cheers

[Edited 2005-10-12 03:39:51]


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User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 859 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5740 times:

Visit www.airbus.com and there it is.....

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User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5657 times:

We have to give LAN a lot of credit, what a great airline. I'm guessing their new Airbuses are to replace their -200s.

User currently offlineTavong From Colombia, joined Jul 2001, 836 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 5530 times:

Quoting PPVRA (Reply 2):
Btw, how many engine types does LAN fly on their A32Xs? I know they became the launch costumer for the PW6000, but what did they fly before? Are they adding yet another engine type?

Well LAN has these engines in their fleets

B737-200: PW JT8D-17Rs
B767-300: PW PW-4060 (not sure but i th8ink this is the powerplant they use)
A319: IAE V2500-A5s.
A320: IAE V2500
A318: PW-6000
A340-300: CFM56-5C3


Hope this helps

Gus
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User currently offlineAV757 From Colombia, joined Apr 2004, 662 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5362 times:

Lan has and uses on their Boeing 767-300 fleet both types of engines.

Pratt and Whitney PW4060

General Electric GE CF6-80C2B6F and B7F

AV757

[Edited 2005-10-12 17:01:50]

User currently offlineAstuteman From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 10253 posts, RR: 97
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5228 times:
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Quoting Ghost77 (Thread starter):
for delivery in 2006.

I'm very impressed they can get them that soon, with an 1150 frame backlog.

I'm chuffed though. Great Airline, LAN Chile


User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5187 times:

Quoting Juventus (Reply 4):
We have to give LAN a lot of credit, what a great airline. I'm guessing their new Airbuses are to replace their -200's.

Correct, that is what the articel states to replace the aging 737-230adv's.

http://www.airbus.com/en/presscentre...s_items/10_11_05_Lan_Airlines.html

LA has placed a few nice orders this year for both there Long Haul and Short Haul fleets. Very nice airline with a cool paint scheme. Congrats to Airbus and LAN.


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User currently offlineHEGAN From Spain, joined Feb 2005, 211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5159 times:

The article says the aircrafts will be for all the LAN Group: in Chile, Argentina and Peru.
It is logical as 25+15 airplanes will be too many for a single airline. The 737-200 will be replaced by the A318!!! Which is a very good news, indeed. The small Airbus is getting more and more orders.

Agur,
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User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8977 posts, RR: 39
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5119 times:

Quoting Tavong (Reply 5):
A319: IAE V2500-A5s.
A320: IAE V2500
A318: PW-6000

Thanks Tavong.

What's the reason behind ordering PWs for their A318s? Does IAE not have a suitable engine for the type?

Cheers



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User currently offlineIowa744Fan From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 931 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5109 times:

This is good news. It will be nice for them to be able to concentrate on one family and have an all-modern narrowbody fleet. Kudos to Lan

User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12897 posts, RR: 46
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5080 times:
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Quoting PPVRA (Reply 10):
What's the reason behind ordering PWs for their A318s? Does IAE not have a suitable engine for the type?

No, their engine is too big (weight and thrust) for the A318. I think the PW6000 was going to be the only engine choice on the A318 as its low weight and superior fuel consumption significantly improved the A318's economics. However, PW had so many problems with the engine that Airbus offered it with the heavier CFM-56 as well.

Indeed, LAN is the very first customer for the A318 with PW6000s.



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User currently offlineLumberton From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 4708 posts, RR: 20
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5074 times:

From what I've read this is NOT a new order, but a confirmation of an order announced last summer.

http://www.mercopress.com/Detalle.asp?NUM=6570



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User currently offlineAero From Germany, joined Oct 2004, 181 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5072 times:

big or small...A340 or A318 it looks great!



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ps: i wonder when the next 2 A-340 will be delivered. Any news on that?



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User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8977 posts, RR: 39
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5056 times:

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 12):

Thanks for the info.

Quoting Lumberton (Reply 13):

Here is the Airbus press release:
http://www.airbus.com/en/presscentre...s_items/10_11_05_Lan_Airlines.html

Cheers



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User currently offlineLumberton From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 4708 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5029 times:

Thanks, PPVRA. The Airbus press release confirms that this is a confirmation of a previous order. Just curious as the intitial post in this thread cited a "new order".

Quote:
LAN Airlines ("LAN") with headquarters in Santiago (Chile) has signed a contract with Airbus for the acquisition of 25 A320 Family aircraft plus 15 options. This order confirms LAN's previous announcement of June 2005 and brings their total orders for Airbus aircraft to 59.



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User currently offlineAnxebla From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4948 times:

NO doubt, LAN is on the very right way  Smile

By the way ....Like Aero, I wonder What happen with the two additional A343s which still are pending to deliver at the moment??

Quoting HEGAN (Reply 9):
The 737-200 will be replaced by the A318!!!

as a matter of fact, the A318 is the best and most suitable for a B732 replacement

Quoting PPVRA (Reply 2):
International Aero Engines V2500

I think the IAE V2500 engine is slightly better than a CFM56-5A/5B as the IAE's desing is more modern and no military origin


User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4929 times:

Definitely LA is the best one in America [the continent], and among the best in the world.

User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5236 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4896 times:

Quoting Lumberton (Reply 16):
Just curious as the intitial post in this thread cited a "new order".

I'm sorry, thought it was a new order but now we know it's only the confirmation of a previous order!

But still pretty impressive what LA is doing, of course it's now LAN, but behind it's the one we used to know as Lan Chile with profitable subsidiaries in closer territories and this new frames will sure make LA stronger. Interesting will be to see how LA play it's cards and perform in Argentina!


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User currently offlineAnxebla From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4875 times:

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 19):
But still pretty impressive what LA is doing

It's, indeed. Like TACAA320 says, it is by far, the best airline in LatinAmerica even maybe (and I say "maybe") is the best one in the American Continent.


User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5236 posts, RR: 51
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4874 times:

Quoting Anxebla (Reply 20):

Hmm it all depends on how the cover of the book is seen.

For me the most important is the biggest... the one who get to carry more pax in a year... and that title at least for 2004 went to RG followed by J.J, AM, MX and I'm not so sure but I think AV was first or ater LA, AR, TA, 6A, CM!

In terms of fleet this is the ranking (jets only): AM, RG, J.J, MX, AR, LA, AV, G3, 6A, TA, CM.

In terms of service, probably LA goes first followed by J.J, RG, MX, AV, AR, AM.

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User currently offlineAnxebla From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4822 times:

Ricardo, when I say "maybe be is the best" I assume people think about the in-flight service. But even when we speak their network about, LAN serves 4 continents (OZ, North and South America, Europe) Even their Cargo division, LanCargo, is pretty large, on that way LAN has cargo planes (767F) and for instance, IB has no one ...sadly

User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4803 times:

Quoting Anxebla (Reply 17):
as a matter of fact, the A318 is the best and most suitable for a B732 replacement

Its not a suitable replacement for the 732 on most routes. The only suitable replacement there ever was was the 735.

Now, the Embraer 190 and 195 are the best replacement. The A318 is tooo much plane.

I am sure LA will avail themselves of the range and payload of the 318.

N


User currently offlineAnxebla From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4786 times:

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 23):
Now, the Embraer 190 and 195 are the best replacement. The A318 is tooo much plane.

According to my own opinion, I go on thinking the best replacement for the 732s can be an A-318, especially if you already have others A320-family aircraft in your fleet. And of course, the Embraer is a very good airplane as well.


25 RICARIZA : Without a doubt!
26 Post contains images Tavong : Well in fact if you take in Count that the IAE shareholders are Pratt & Whitney, Rolls-Royce, the Japanese Aero Engines Corporation and MTU Aero Engi
27 Anxebla : PW just has a 32,5% in International Aero Engines, Rolls Royce has another 32,5%, the Japanese JAEC (which is a consortium from the japanese companie
28 Kappel : Not exactly. Well, they did have problems with the engines (too much fuel consumption), but the reason Airbus also offered the CFM is Air France, the
29 Anxebla : Indeed, I understand AF said Airbus: NO CFM56, NO A318 order
30 ZK-NBT : A little surprised not to see anything on the 2 A340's they still have on firm order. Any news on these? They plan to increase the AKL/SYD route to da
31 Post contains images MIAMIx707 : Those A320s look weird in the LAN livery for some reason looks much better on the 767s or even on the similar A319. hola Andres, isn't Cygnus Air an I
32 Post contains links and images Anxebla : You're right. I can't understand why not LAN has not the two (or just one, at least) remaining A343's Hola Mario ¿cómo vas? I hope this one can ans
33 Ghost77 : However having freighters doesn't not necessarily mean they are better or haul more cargo. I'm sure IB haul's more cargo in a year at their bellies t
34 USADreamliner : Maybe after somebody teach the FA's to be nice and smile!! Go to airlinequality.com USADreamliner
35 Tavong : Well yes and given the info you put they are one of the two biggest Shareholders... Anyway, the PW engine for LAN's A318 have much more commonality w
36 Arcano : yeah, there is something behind this eternal delay, I think. The 767 order just placed won't suit well the EZE-MAD market, and the current 340s are f
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