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Biman Banglasdesh DC-10 JFK-BRU-DAC  
User currently offlineAMS From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1691 posts, RR: 11
Posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3258 times:

Does anyone know for how long BG is still going to be flying DC-10's out of JFK?. Apparently BG flights are fully booked most of the time. Also they have had many technical problems with their DC-10's and have heard that BG was interested in buying other aircraft.

Regards,
AMS

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User currently offlineBilly From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2000, 895 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3167 times:

The BRU stop is a dog for BG (their view, not mine). They want to do it from AMS but the competition is too strong to the US (hence out of BRU). Ideally they would like to do it over London but they struggle for slots. Also their punctuality at LHR would mean they would lose their slots under the rules.

They pick up very few pax at BRU to NYC and the stop is effectively a tech-stop.


User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4328 posts, RR: 35
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3140 times:

due to fuel taxes and fees, it's impossible to get from Amsterdam to New York for anything below € 480 inclusive even in low season (November). Only a few years ago, € 250 including taxes was always possible AMS-NYC.
So I think BG would be welcome back in Amsterdam  Wink



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User currently offlineMeridian From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3046 times:

Airevents.com offer an excellent fare on this flight if you book through their website. I'm seriously tempted to fly them next year, especially if they still have DC-10's!!  bouncy 


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User currently offlineLO231 From Belgium, joined Sep 2004, 2392 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3022 times:

Quoting Meridian (Reply 3):
Airevents.com offer an excellent fare on this flight if you book through their website. I'm seriously tempted to fly them next year, especially if they still have DC-10's!!

And for a few EUR more, you fly in Business Class... It's not BA, but hey..

regards,
LO231



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User currently offlineBilly From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2000, 895 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3005 times:

AMS do not want it because of the problems of handling transit passengers and also poor puntuality. AMS is glad to see the back of some transit flights because of pax handling issues.

User currently offlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3530 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2965 times:

Does New York have a large Bangladeshi community?


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User currently offlinePlanemannyc From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1008 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2901 times:
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Quoting Billy (Reply 1):
They want to do it from AMS but the competition is too strong to the US (hence out of BRU). Ideally they would like to do it over London but they struggle for slots.

Partly true. They would like to fly LHR-JFK but of course Bermuda III does not allow that. They dropped AMS for a different reason. When KLM introduced flights to DAC, KLM was taking away a lot of Bangladesh bound passengers from the UK. KLM wanted their own grond handlings in DAC, but Biman -- which provies all foreign carriers handling services in DAC, refused. The dispute lead to the Dutch and Bangladeshi authorities to withdrawing bilaterals and Biman swiching DAC-AMS-JFK service to DAC-BRU-JFK. BG lost a good revenue stream as AMS-JFK had a lot more traffic than BRU-JFK does.

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 6):
Does New York have a large Bangladeshi community?

Yeah. Some say around 200,000 in greater areas. Definitely over 100,000. Astoria, Jackson Heights, Jamaica in Queens and parts of the Bronx and Brooklyn have very large Bangladeshi communities.

Best,

Wasim / Planemannyc


User currently offlineSchipholjfk From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 579 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2693 times:

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 2):
due to fuel taxes and fees, it's impossible to get from Amsterdam to New York for anything below € 480 inclusive even in low season (November). Only a few years ago, € 250 including taxes was always possible AMS-NYC.
So I think BG would be welcome back in Amsterdam

Are you sure? Because I am flying KLM (JFK-AMS-JFK) on Oct 20/23 for $520. That is less than Euro 480!



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User currently offline2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2697 times:

Given the Bengali population in England, If they were to fly to JFK via STN or LTN or BHX or MAN, flights would do good. They don't need LHR enroute to JFK.


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User currently offlineLO231 From Belgium, joined Sep 2004, 2392 posts, RR: 22
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2620 times:

Quoting Schipholjfk (Reply 8):
Are you sure? Because I am flying KLM (JFK-AMS-JFK) on Oct 20/23 for $520. That is less than Euro 480!

You booked through the net?

At our agency, seeing that EUR 35.00 is a service fee to East coast US, it's the same...

Regards,
LO231



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User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4328 posts, RR: 35
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2496 times:

Quoting Schipholjfk (Reply 8):
Are you sure? Because I am flying KLM (JFK-AMS-JFK) on Oct 20/23 for $520. That is less than Euro 480!

KLM might have different prices for US originating passengers, also the landing fees of NYC-AMS-NYC can be different then AMS-NYC-AMS.
You might also have booked before the fuel surcharge went up to 50 euro for each sector.
If I book their special 299 Euro AMS-NYC tariff (saturday stayover) in november straight on the KLM website (so without added agents costs), I get a total price of 478,05 Euro, including 69,05 taxes, 100 fuel surcharge and 10 reservation costs.



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User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7613 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2398 times:

I recall that they lost a DC10 recently, I think that it was scrapped after leaving the runway on landing.

Have they replaced it yet, if not scheduling must have been affected.


User currently offlineAMSSFO From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 952 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2341 times:

Quoting AMS (Thread starter):
have heard that BG was interested in buying other aircraft.

They are planning to acquire six Airbus A330s and four Boeing 777s.
http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1111660372.html
This undated article states that they will arrive next year...
http://www.bangladeshinfo.com/business/headline_news.php?nid=8248

No idea whether this actually is going to happen though.


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