AMS From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1689 posts, RR: 12 Posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2321 times:
Does anyone know for how long BG is still going to be flying DC-10's out of JFK?. Apparently BG flights are fully booked most of the time. Also they have had many technical problems with their DC-10's and have heard that BG was interested in buying other aircraft.
Billy From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2000, 895 posts, RR: 8 Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2230 times:
The BRU stop is a dog for BG (their view, not mine). They want to do it from AMS but the competition is too strong to the US (hence out of BRU). Ideally they would like to do it over London but they struggle for slots. Also their punctuality at LHR would mean they would lose their slots under the rules.
They pick up very few pax at BRU to NYC and the stop is effectively a tech-stop.
MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4117 posts, RR: 37 Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2203 times:
due to fuel taxes and fees, it's impossible to get from Amsterdam to New York for anything below € 480 inclusive even in low season (November). Only a few years ago, € 250 including taxes was always possible AMS-NYC.
So I think BG would be welcome back in Amsterdam
nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
Meridian From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 65 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2109 times:
Airevents.com offer an excellent fare on this flight if you book through their website. I'm seriously tempted to fly them next year, especially if they still have DC-10's!!
LO231 From Belgium, joined Sep 2004, 2299 posts, RR: 25 Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2085 times:
Quoting Meridian (Reply 3): Airevents.com offer an excellent fare on this flight if you book through their website. I'm seriously tempted to fly them next year, especially if they still have DC-10's!!
And for a few EUR more, you fly in Business Class... It's not BA, but hey..
regards,
LO231
Got both LO 788 frames already, next SN BRU-VCE-BRU
Billy From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2000, 895 posts, RR: 8 Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2068 times:
AMS do not want it because of the problems of handling transit passengers and also poor puntuality. AMS is glad to see the back of some transit flights because of pax handling issues.
Planemannyc From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 989 posts, RR: 9 Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1964 times:
Quoting Billy (Reply 1): They want to do it from AMS but the competition is too strong to the US (hence out of BRU). Ideally they would like to do it over London but they struggle for slots.
Partly true. They would like to fly LHR-JFK but of course Bermuda III does not allow that. They dropped AMS for a different reason. When KLM introduced flights to DAC, KLM was taking away a lot of Bangladesh bound passengers from the UK. KLM wanted their own grond handlings in DAC, but Biman -- which provies all foreign carriers handling services in DAC, refused. The dispute lead to the Dutch and Bangladeshi authorities to withdrawing bilaterals and Biman swiching DAC-AMS-JFK service to DAC-BRU-JFK. BG lost a good revenue stream as AMS-JFK had a lot more traffic than BRU-JFK does.
Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 6): Does New York have a large Bangladeshi community?
Yeah. Some say around 200,000 in greater areas. Definitely over 100,000. Astoria, Jackson Heights, Jamaica in Queens and parts of the Bronx and Brooklyn have very large Bangladeshi communities.
Schipholjfk From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 579 posts, RR: 6 Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1756 times:
Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 2): due to fuel taxes and fees, it's impossible to get from Amsterdam to New York for anything below € 480 inclusive even in low season (November). Only a few years ago, € 250 including taxes was always possible AMS-NYC.
So I think BG would be welcome back in Amsterdam
Are you sure? Because I am flying KLM (JFK-AMS-JFK) on Oct 20/23 for $520. That is less than Euro 480!
2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4 Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1760 times:
Given the Bengali population in England, If they were to fly to JFK via STN or LTN or BHX or MAN, flights would do good. They don't need LHR enroute to JFK.
MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4117 posts, RR: 37 Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1559 times:
Quoting Schipholjfk (Reply 8): Are you sure? Because I am flying KLM (JFK-AMS-JFK) on Oct 20/23 for $520. That is less than Euro 480!
KLM might have different prices for US originating passengers, also the landing fees of NYC-AMS-NYC can be different then AMS-NYC-AMS.
You might also have booked before the fuel surcharge went up to 50 euro for each sector.
If I book their special 299 Euro AMS-NYC tariff (saturday stayover) in november straight on the KLM website (so without added agents costs), I get a total price of 478,05 Euro, including 69,05 taxes, 100 fuel surcharge and 10 reservation costs.
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