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User currently offlineZweed From Netherlands, joined Apr 2004, 455 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7991 times:

can anyone tell me?

Any more background info etc?

http://surl.se/tgw

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User currently offlineArniePie From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 1265 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7980 times:

center tank from the energia rocket system???


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User currently offlineCrogalski From United States of America, joined May 2005, 514 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7978 times:

isnt that the external tank for the russian shuttle?.. kinda like the NASA one


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User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7977 times:

Really inefficient engines on those old Russian birds. It is an optional fuel tank so that the aircraft can fly intercontinentally.

User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7962 times:

Quoting Zweed (Thread starter):
can anyone tell me?

Vodka!


User currently offlineZweed From Netherlands, joined Apr 2004, 455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7961 times:

and what kind of aircraft is it?

User currently offlineArniePie From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 1265 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7947 times:

M4 Myachiev bison also used for transporting the buran?


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User currently offlineTheunclesam From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 55 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7919 times:

It's obviously the Russian's response to the A380. I'll bet you could get 500+ pax in that thing. And that's with seats! Imagine what you could fit if you just dumped 'em in!


"So what's your robot do?" "Collects data about the surrounding enviroment. Then drives into walls."
User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7862 times:

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 4):
Vodka!

 crazy 

Folks, we have a winner in the unofficial caption contest.



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User currently offlineNightFlier From United States of America, joined May 2004, 284 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7835 times:

Must be for the Russian Space Shuttle, believe it is called the Boran. Forgive me if I have spelled it wrong.


Airplanes are only as good as the people who fly&fix them.
User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3311 posts, RR: 45
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 7751 times:

Quoting NightFlier (Reply 9):
Must be for the Russian Space Shuttle, believe it is called the Boran. Forgive me if I have spelled it wrong.

Buran


User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 7732 times:

I can't believe that thing got airborne. The Russian's sure have balls. Must be hell in a cross wind. By the way, Can anyone tell me if the Russian shuttle ever went into space? If so, how many times?

User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 20
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 7715 times:

I don't think Buran ever flew more than once. It never flew with a crew. It was just too expensive to lift and recover. It now sits in a park as a tourist attraction.


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User currently offlineKaneporta1 From Greece, joined May 2005, 740 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7433 times:

This is the weirdest looking blimp I've seen.


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User currently offlineCruzinAltitude From United States of America, joined May 2004, 415 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 7182 times:

Quoting Flyf15 (Reply 3):
Really inefficient engines on those old Russian birds. It is an optional fuel tank so that the aircraft can fly intercontinentally.

Funny stuff.

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 4):
Vodka!

Very funny stuff.

My contribution . . .

In an effort to reassert the war time economy, Russia created the largest atomic weapons delivery system to date.


User currently offlineAirbusA346 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 7437 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6988 times:

The only remainnig Buran, was distroyed in 2002.

Quoted from Wikipedia - Copyright Wikipedia

'The completed shuttles 1.01 (11F35 K1, "Buran") and 1.02 (11F35 K2, informal "Ptichka"), and the remains of the project are now property of Kazakhstan. In 2002, the hangar housing the sole space-flown Buran 1.01 orbiter and a mockup of the Energiya booster rocket collapsed due to incomplete maintenance, destroying the vehicle. Eight workers were also killed in the collapse of the building's roof.'

Picture of Hangar.
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2169/burandamaged7jm.jpg

Article on the Buran - The above article is under 'Aftermath'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buran

Tom.



Tom Walker '086' First Officer of a A318/A319 for Air Lambert - Hours Flown: 17 hour 05 minutes (last updated 24/12/05).
User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17054 posts, RR: 67
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6954 times:

Ok. Let's clear this one out

The cargo is a probably section for the Energia rocket, which was designed for use with Buran (Russian Shuttle) and other things. For those into trivia, Buran means "Snowstorm". Buran flew once on an unmanned mission. The project was canceled along with the Soviet Union.

The plane is the Myasischev VM-T Atlant. It's derived from the Myasischev M-4 Molot ("Bison") bomber (the first Soviet jet bomber). There are two Atlants and they are used for oversized loads.

EDIT: I was wrong. Buran was in fact flown on the Atlant.

[Edited 2005-10-13 21:33:57]


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User currently offlineAirbusA346 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 7437 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6940 times:

Quoting Zweed (Thread starter):
can anyone tell me?

Any more background info etc?

It is this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myasishchev_VM-T

Tom.



Tom Walker '086' First Officer of a A318/A319 for Air Lambert - Hours Flown: 17 hour 05 minutes (last updated 24/12/05).
User currently offlineLevg79 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 994 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6895 times:

Quoting NightFlier (Reply 9):
Must be for the Russian Space Shuttle, believe it is called the Boran. Forgive me if I have spelled it wrong.

Russian Space Shuttle was transported using Mriya:

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Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 15):
The only remainnig Buran, was distroyed in 2002.

There was only one built.



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User currently offlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3771 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6871 times:

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 11):
I can't believe that thing got airborne. The Russian's sure have balls. Must be hell in a cross wind. By the way, Can anyone tell me if the Russian shuttle ever went into space? If so, how many times?

Well, I think it's kinda ballsy letting a US Space Shuttle ride piggy back on a 747... If we didn't have balls, we wouldn't be here (a regrettable pun...).

Cheers
Mats



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User currently offlineTripleDelta From Croatia, joined Jul 2004, 1123 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6835 times:
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There was a project back in the beginning of the 90s to stick a container of very similar proportions and shape onto the An-225's back to serve as an extended cargo space for outsized loads that wouldn't be able to fit into the main cargo bay. Maybe that's it, though I don't really know if it was tested on the Atlant.


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User currently offlineTyphaerion From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 619 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6751 times:
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The tank in question is the center liquid propellant tank for the Energia launch vehicle. The Energia was used to launch the Buran and one other military satellite. Both launches were successful, but the satellite mission ended in failure as the guidance computers on the satellite failed to insert it into the correct orbit and it re-entered the atmosphere before it could be of use.

The Buran made one space flight, it took off, orbited twice and landed without a crew on-board. Then the Russian space program ran out of money to fund the project and it got the axe.

Three interesting things of note.

  • Its only space flight was on November 15th, 1988.
  • The Energia launch vehicle that it used was the most powerful and one of the most successful liquid fueled launch vehicle ever built. The Russians were liquid fuel aces because that was the only launch technology they ever used. They had used less efficient liquid propellants at first, but then, when they decided to use Liquid Oxygen (LOX) and Liquid Hydrogen (LH), the most powerful liquid fuel combination found to date, they managed to make the most powerful launch vehicle ever.
  • The Buran took off with a 40 kt crosswind blowing at the time of launch. NASA cancels if it has 10 kt or more. Just goes to show you how powerful and well built the vehicle was.

This is a good link to more Buran information:
Buran Facts

And this is a good link to some more pictures and some facts on the Energia:
Buran and Energia Facts and Pics
There are also more good links at the bottem of this link.

Hope that answers some of your questions.

Edited for spelling...stupid me...

[Edited 2005-10-13 22:04:10]


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User currently offlineTyphaerion From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 619 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6610 times:
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Quoting Levg79 (Reply 18):
There was only one built.

And this is not true, there were actually four in various stages of construction, three that made it all the way to completion. One was the flight model, the AeroBuran, without the engines and other stuff for aerodynamic testing purposes. The one that actually flew and one other that never saw a lauch pad but could have been made lauch ready rounded out the completed ones.



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User currently offlineAirbusA346 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 7437 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5687 times:

The one with the engine on, was in Austrellia, but the guy who owned it went bankrupt.

It was found in Bahrain in 2003/4 by Seinhiem Technik Museum and they brought it.

Is going to be taken to Seinhiem during 2005/6.

Tom.



Tom Walker '086' First Officer of a A318/A319 for Air Lambert - Hours Flown: 17 hour 05 minutes (last updated 24/12/05).
User currently offlinePawsleykat From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1978 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5485 times:

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 4):
Vodka!

 Smile  Smile



First Class passengers are my favourites. They can't get any further forward without an ATPL.
25 Post contains images AirEMS : No no no.... You know when you have to go to the doctor because that rash in the place you can't mention won't go away?.... Well thats the pill you ha
26 Post contains images David L : Having also taken off without a crew onboard, obviously!
27 Starlionblue : Before Mriya went into service in 1989, Buran was transported using the Myasischev VM-T Atlant.
28 Post contains links TheSonntag : I heard that another Buran will come to Speyer, the German museum that also has one LH742. They also are connected to the museum in Sinsheim which has
29 Post contains links and images JeffSFO : Wow--I didn't know that. Here's what I found though: It's amazing what you can find doing a simple image search on Google.
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