Burnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7546 posts, RR: 8 Posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2482 times:
Im not sure if Im the only one here, but ever since Doug Steenland took office as President and CEO, everything has gone downhill, as far as in-flight services, employee morale, and now a talk of liquidation and out to kill the unions. If it were for me I would get a petition going to send to the judge along with a essay about why Doug Steenland should be thrown out. What does everyone else think about him?
For me, hes just out to kill unions and NW as a whole and walk away with millions because hes a greedy little..... I also think that ever since he took CEO that the airline as a whole has gone down, bigger losses and such since hes been in.
I hereby sign the petition to send to the judge, anyone else?
"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
Jetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7410 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2415 times:
Quoting Burnsie28 (Thread starter): Im not sure if Im the only one here, but ever since Doug Steenland took office as President and CEO, everything has gone downhill, as far as in-flight services, employee morale, and now a talk of liquidation and out to kill the unions. If it were for me I would get a petition going to send to the judge along with a essay about why Doug Steenland should be thrown out. What does everyone else think about him?
Nobody like Steenland. Burnsie, Steenland is the token evil face of NW, if he survives the entire bankruptcy phase. I think he will, unless the unions are successful in getting him to resign or is forced from office. Once the company is out of BK, I think he will leave the company. Will things get better? No, not unless those of the likes of Gary Wilson and Neal Cohen are gone. They will just replace the CEO with someone just as bad or worse than Steenland. What has to happen is that NW must be taken from the senior officers presently there, like what happened to CO after Lorenzo was forced from the Board. It is sad for all of us who have foaught hard to make NWA a good company, but there are those at the top who are hell-bent on destroying it. But NWA has always been like this to it's employees, ever since the Don Nyrop days. The evil baton is just passed from one unscrupulous hack to another. From Jon Dasburg to Steenland. I leave Richard Anderson out of that equation because he was somewhat of an exception. He wasn't anywhere near they way this guy is.
M404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2226 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2414 times:
First I would have to have some opinions from all the Board of Directors and Managers.
1. What did they really think of Richard Anderson?
2. Was Steenland put in place with the direct job of getting the concessions Anderson started even to the point of BK? You have to remember that for at least two years it was obvious that the only way legacies could survive was through BK. Some simply didn't see it coming or would do anything to avoid it. Fuel prices robbed them of choice and time.
3. Did Andersen's slow and easy "just read the papers" way to convince the rank and file that concessions were necessary do no more than placate the forces that all was well and achieve just the opposite as desired? How much did union hot air postering rhetoric negate that attempt at real education?
4. Was Anderson let go because he could not stomach what was coming and did not want to be "the bad cop" or was it simply the MUCH bigger salary with United Health?
5. In retrospect, with their different approach, could NW have gotten to the same place as AA and CO are now as opposed to NW and in fact will that be enough to get them by without BK?
6. How much did the Checchi/Wilson leveraged buyout and it's equity disposal system actually push NW to where they are today?
7. As opposed to the old NW cash system did the new schools "borrow from Peter to pay Paul and pay it back anytime but now" bite them back more than practices at other carriers?
After I had those opinions a more objective case for your answer might appear. Then after all that, I would like an independent money manager and some Harvard business school types to analyze those answers. But not new ones. I would want those that know what deregulation was and truly what a Legacy has for baggage.
No one loves the messenger that brings really bad news. What REALLY are Steenland's motives and what IS the business plan for NW other than shrink to profitability? Has NW actually done a complete turnaround and is willing (read unable) to continue chasing the old "market share is everything" business model? Does he really think what will happen if NW gets what they want will make his pariah coat worth wearing. Only time will tell. We already know he has no leadership persona like Bethune and even less employee enhancing charisma. BK guidance lawyers only make both of those facts worse. Anderson and Steenland are direct opposites as far as the employees are concerned.
What is demanded of the Captain of this Titanic only history will tell.
Less sarcasm and more thought equal better understanding