Shamrock330 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1602 times:
According to an article in the Irish Times (13/10/2005) , Aer lingus ceo Dermot Mannion is to voice his scepticism about membership of the oneworld alliance.The bi-anual event is to be held in Dallas next month.
Ba chief Willie Walsh is ironically likely to voice his objections to this "walk out" by EI as they provide a steady stream of traffic to Ba's long haul network at Heathrow.
However ,mannion will not want to cut all ties with AA as they have talked of opening up to 50 new U.S routes in the event that the irish gov gets rid of the restrictive bi-lateral agreement.
Interesting times ahead!
HAJFlyer From Switzerland, joined Sep 2005, 1471 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1540 times:
Quoting Shamrock330 (Thread starter): will not want to cut all ties with AA as they have talked of opening up to 50 new U.S routes in the event that the irish gov gets rid of the restrictive bi-lateral agreement
I would assume that this number includes destinations served by Air Lingus PLUS destinations reached through connecting AA-operated codeshare flights.
Toulouse From Switzerland, joined Apr 2005, 2751 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1532 times:
So here we go again with leaving Oneworld. I really didn't think DM would follow Willie's previous attempt/suggestions on leaving Oneworld... I've also recently noticed the emphasis on the "Welcome abourd your Aer Lingus OneWorld flight to..." on announcements of EI flights over the past year after a period in which they seemed to surpress any mention of Oneworld...
Commavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 10945 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1393 times:
Would not be surprised at all. Now that EI has become a quasi-LCC, and AA is now flying nonstop from the U.S. to both DUB and SNN, EI now serves virtually no network purpose in oneworld. As the OP said, they do feed tons of longhaul passengers into BA at LHR, but they really bring nothing meaningful to the alliance's network that BA does not also serve.
Aisak From Spain, joined Aug 2005, 760 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks ago) and read 1285 times:
The problem is the little EI integration with others OW members... EI only codeshares with AA and BA.... IB ops 1x daily MAD-DUB and 1x BCN-DUB... same on EI side but these flights are not codeshared while they complement each other (IB early in the morning and EI in the evening)
Access to lounge facilities is also very limited due to lack of Biz class on EI....
But one thing i take for sure.. EI has survived Ryanair mostly thanks to going LCC and because of being OW....
EIRules From Ireland, joined Aug 2007, 699 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1155 times:
I think it would be a shame if EI left OneWorld. But I do agree that EI should be codesharing with more OneWorld carriers. As Aisak said why are there not EI and IB codes on the 2x daily flights from DUB-MAD and DUB-BCN not to mention IB codes on the other EI flights to Spain like Valencia, Malaga, Alicante, Bilbao etc. Also the AA flights into Ireland like the way AA has its code on EI flights. And why not BA DUB-LGW and DUB-Glasgow?
Next Flights: EI DUB-LHR A320, BA LHR-SFO B744, UA SFO-LAS A320, BA LAS-LHR B744, EI LHR-DUB A320
Shamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6257 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1128 times:
I agree that Aer Lingus should be codesharing with a lot more OneWorld carriers. Like EIRules has said why is there no DUB-LGW DUB Glasgow?
It would be a dream if Aer Lingus opened 50 new routes in the U.S but it must be a mistake. I there any news on new fleet or routes, it was going to be announced this month.
EI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1083 times:
Quoting HAJFlyer (Reply 3): I would assume that this number includes destinations served by Air Lingus PLUS destinations reached through connecting AA-operated codeshare flights.
Theres no way they could launch 50. I did hear Willie Walsh did mention a figure of 'up to 20' on TV before. I think 8-10 is more realistic.
Quoting Commavia (Reply 5): As the OP said, they do feed tons of longhaul passengers into BA at LHR, but they really bring nothing meaningful to the alliance's network that BA does not also serve.
Regarding AA codeshares, EI do have a good and growing european network at more affordable prices than BA, and Dublin is the 3rd most popular city in Europe for tourists to visit, after London and Paris.