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Man Punches Out Window On LAS-TPA HP Flight  
User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6491 posts, RR: 3
Posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 12218 times:

A man was arrested after raising his fist at a fellow passenger in 7B, and then punching out the inner window on a HP flight from LAS to TPA. He also busted the frame around the window. He's out on bail with electronic monitoring.

[Edited 2005-10-14 16:41:23]


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User currently offlineFlyGuyClt From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 537 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 12182 times:

Some people can't help it. Their family tree's just have one limb. They just don't know any better.

Wonder if he knew the one he was trying to hit?


Safe Flying  Smile



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User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5947 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 12153 times:
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Is HP going to sue the passenger for damage and replacement of the window and the surround structure?

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31702 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 12034 times:

Frame damage is a bigger job.Make him pay for it.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineDAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 11979 times:

Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 2):
Is HP going to sue the passenger for damage and replacement of the window and the surround structure?



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 3):
Frame damage is a bigger job.Make him pay for it.
regds
MEL

He should absolutely pay for all of the damage to the aircraft. He is obviously a goon.



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User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7558 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 11955 times:

Bummer for him, hes on the blacklist.  Wink


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User currently offlineDrewfly From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 303 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 11828 times:

God imagine being the passenger in 7A.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/10/14/plane.punch.ap/index.html



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User currently offlineModernArt From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 11741 times:

The guy sounds mentally disturbed. Why wasn't he on Southwest where he belongs? silly 

User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13170 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 11682 times:

Note that the flight was from Las Vegas. Maybe he has a gambling problem and dropped a lot at the tables in there and very angry about his 'bad luck'. Now he has some real trouble. Oh well, looks food and lodging will be provided by the Feds for a number of months or years.

User currently offlineContrails From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1834 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 11673 times:

This guy needs to be taken out of the gene pool.

Unbelievable!



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User currently offlineAAgent From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 560 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 11594 times:

Quoting ModernArt (Reply 7):
The guy sounds mentally disturbed. Why wasn't he on Southwest where he belongs?

That would have been a great segment on the "Airline" television program. I would have watched.

Best Regards,
AAgent



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User currently offline3201 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 11486 times:

Quoting Contrails (Reply 9):
This guy needs to be taken out of the gene pool.

Didn't we used to do that? I don't think the medical ethicists approve(d).  Smile


User currently offlineN501US From United States of America, joined May 2005, 221 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 11377 times:
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I just heard on CBS radio "that the man's attorney blames drug abuse".


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User currently offlineBabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 11278 times:

These people often turn up looking nuts at the check-in desk. They should be stopped there.

Airlines might get a few more loyal customers if they thought the pax were vetted for loons before the flight. They have now probably lost a whole aircraft full of future passengers. Not good business tactics.  Sad


User currently offlineCa2ohHP From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 955 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 11248 times:

Quoting N501US (Reply 12):
I just heard on CBS radio "that the man's attorney blames drug abuse".

What ever happened to personal accountability? Oh yeah that went out with the rubix cube in 1984.  drunk 


User currently offlineDeC From Greece, joined Aug 2005, 616 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 11090 times:

Quoting Babybus (Reply 13):
These people often turn up looking nuts at the check-in desk. They should be stopped there.

With what excuse? "Excuse me sir, but you look kinda nut and therefore we can't let you onboard the aircraft 'till you wipe that look off your face"



DEC
User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4102 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 10940 times:

Quoting Babybus (Reply 13):
They have now probably lost a whole aircraft full of future passengers. Not good business tactics.

Just what, exactly, could have been done? Should all passengers be put in arm restraints in case one randomly decides to crack? I would hope the rest of the passengers understood what was going on, and that it could happen with any airline.

If not, well, that's just as asinine as the passenger who said they'd never fly US Airways again because there was too much turbulence.


User currently offlinePIA777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1738 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 10646 times:

Quoting N501US (Reply 12):
I just heard on CBS radio "that the man's attorney blames drug abuse".

In the American legal system, that means he is innocent.

I did not have an inner plastic window on my flight from HNL-ORD in 1998.
I complained to the FA and she brought over the first officer who assured me
that everything would be OK. I knew that but just wanted to make sure they knew to replace it when we arrive in ORD.

PIA777



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User currently offlineSonOfACaptain From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1747 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 9908 times:

Quoting Drewfly (Reply 6):
God imagine being the passenger in 7A.

Uh, he was the passenger in 7A.  wink 

-SOAC



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User currently offlineElvis777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 360 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 9741 times:

Hello all,

Ca2hHP, PIA777 in our American legal system he will be found guilty, regardless of his alleged drug dependency. Depending on which state he is charged in the penalty for endengaring the lives of 100+ people could be quite draconian. becasue he is claiming that drugs made him lose his judgement does not mean he is not accepting personal responsibility. It may mean that, but now we are passing judgement... Perhaps if he claimed that he was beating up an atheist or someone that opposes the war in Iraq that might make his transgression a bit more palatable, in certain states at least. I guess that you can say that I find our legal system of justice to be for the most part fair (more fair if you have lots of money) but at least fairer than most- so I am sticking up for it.

Peace

Elvis7



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User currently offlineA350 From Germany, joined Nov 2004, 1101 posts, RR: 22
Reply 20, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 9691 times:

Quoting FlyGuyClt (Reply 1):
Wonder if he knew the one he was trying to hit?

He probably wanted to become a Window(s) Plug-in  innocent 

At least he would have been awarded with a great panorama view and an impressive feeling for the speed  footinmouth 

A350



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User currently offlineDb373 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 244 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9054 times:

Quoting Elvis777 (Reply 19):
Perhaps if he claimed that he was beating up an atheist or someone that opposes the war in Iraq that might make his transgression a bit more palatable, in certain states at least

Sheer brilliance! We've found his defense: "Well your honor, I was just trying to do this country a good deed by taking out these 100+ unpatriotic Americans!" What's sad is, this might work.



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User currently offlineGeo772 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9022 times:

The frame for the inner pane - which has no structural function at all should be fairly easy to sort out.

Quoting PIA777 (Reply 17):
I did not have an inner plastic window on my flight from HNL-ORD in 1998.
I complained to the FA and she brought over the first officer who assured me
that everything would be OK. I knew that but just wanted to make sure they knew to replace it when we arrive in ORD.

The inner pane is more of a scratch guard and insulation. I'm a little surprised that you were able to occupy the seat with it missing because it is possible to get a nasty cold burn if you touched the middle pane.



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User currently offlineSchipholjfk From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 579 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 8974 times:

"It appears to have come out of nowhere," said Marchione's attorney, Thomas Ostrander. "Perhaps it was some sort of a psychotic episode as a result of drug abuse." - CNN article

He should be in jail for possibly being a drug addict in the first place. I have no doubt that some sleek lawyer will convince a dumb jury that he had "temporary insanity." The famous temporary insanity claim! Hope the guy gets full 20 years for this extremely dangerous act.

[Edited 2005-10-15 00:54:54]


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User currently offlineSATX From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2840 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 8781 times:

Quoting Schipholjfk (Reply 23):
I have no doubt that some sleek lawyer will convince a dumb jury that he had "temporary insanity."

My guess is that you get most of your legal views from movies and have little if any concept of what's really involved with succeeding on a temporary insanity plea.



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25 IRelayer : Like on the other thread about NWA maintenence, you have all the answers and everyone else is dumb. People get their opinions on legal matters from w
26 SATX : For one thing, the poster didn't say it was possible. He said he had no doubt. That's nothing but ignorant nonsense. Since it sounds like you want to
27 Post contains images N754PR : Reason 31 not to fly in America for a while
28 Kanebear : Idiots know no geographical boundaries. They're in Europe too. Just fly Ryanair once in a while.
29 HPRamper : I was under the impression the inner plastic window also served as a sort of temperature shield from the outer cold panes.
30 HAWK21M : On most Aircraft the Inner Pane is a Decorative Panel.The Airloads are taken by the Middle & Outer Panes. regds MEL
31 Post contains images Luisca : This is why the goverment should shut down all LLC's!
32 DLKAPA : What would have really been funny is if he'd have gotten all the way through. The closest large object to the depressurization would have plugged the
33 Iwok : With our luck, he'll wind up sueing the airline and Boeing for damages to his hand, and walk away with a couple of million in settlements. "The hard
34 Post contains images Mir : And would have probably sued the airline for not warning him that punching through the window could be dangerous. -Mir
35 Post contains images AlexG : Assuming that the guy didn't wear his seat belt, he actually _WAS_ trying to flush himself out of the gene pool. Unfortunately, the outer panes were
36 David L : Maybe the window started it. Have any of you considered that?
37 AA54Heavy : Its true, and since, after further review of the case, it was determined that a proper interview of the window was not conducted, thus representing g
38 HAWK21M : Whats an LLC. regds MEL
39 Post contains images Kevi747 : So, you're saying that if someone is suspected of "possibly" having a drug problem they should be thrown in jail?
40 Post contains images Oldeuropean : Yes indeed, we can find idiots everywhere. But your example is wrong. The idiot is the CEO of this airline and not a passenger. Axel
41 Post contains images Sydscott : But he also flies on Ryanair as well so, therefore, he is a passenger and, therefore, he is also an idiot in the air. Still it would have made a good
42 Jmc1975 : You can him a man? Limited Liability Corporation.
43 Ctbarnes : A few things come to mind: We don't know for sure if this guy was drunk, on drugs or what have you. If he was intoxicated or under the influance then
44 Post contains images LV : He was just trying to disprove the claim on Mythbusters that a hole in a window will not cause explosive decompression....lol
45 Post contains images Jmc1975 : Yeah! Some slack in his soap rope when he goes to prison!
46 Post contains images Cactus739 : Come on now....we don't need facts.... we've got conclusions we can jump to!
47 Ctbarnes : All I'm trying to say is we don't have all the information, and yet people seem to have him tried, convicted and strung up by his soap on a rope. Rem
48 Post contains images Redngold : It comes to mind that he also could have been having a type of seizure; hypnopompic hallucinations; or another medical condition. However, if his lawy
49 Post contains images N587NK : This flight should never have been dispatched this way. I had this same thing when we first got our Airbus A321s and I had it happen twice(it was alw
50 Post contains images Markdirk : Is it a shock collar, I hope?
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