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Consequences For KL If NW Where To Liquidate?  
User currently offlineKLMCedric From Belgium, joined Dec 2003, 812 posts, RR: 22
Posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2037 times:

I imagine some of you might find this an inappropriate question,NW being in
much trouble right now and KL doing really well.
And believe me, the thought of NW's liquidation makes me sick and I hope
it'll never happen, but being a KL employee I can't help but wonder what
such an event would mean to KLM and the huge co-op the two carriers have
between their respective hubs. Am I wrong that it would do a lot more harm
then good to KL???
Greetings.

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User currently offlineKahala777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2047 times:

From my humble opinion. The best thing for KLM would be the death of NWA. KLM, is day in and day out relying more and more on that of Air France. Air France, has made it well known that things are going to be changing more and more with their business model as the years go on.

A few things to look for if NWA ends service - Memphis, Minneapolis, Detroit, Seattle would loose service to Amsterdam. Boston would regain service ala KLM. Vancouver would see an increase in service at the expense of Seattle. Los Angeles would more than likely regain its summer seasonal second flight.

KLM, would reduce the number of connecting flights within Europe. KLM, would take over all Amsterdam-India flights now flown by NWA. There in most cases would be a stronger link made between KLM and DL/CO, at the expense of what was lost with NW. KLM, would more than likely increase aircraft size to EWR, ATL via the 772.

There is nothing lost with the end of NWA. Continental and Delta, could make up for NWA in a heartbeat.

KAHALA777


User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4680 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2001 times:

Don't forget that costs/revenue is shared between AMS-DTW/MSP/SEA/MEM/BOM etc....... so that loss in revenue hits KLM as well....


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User currently offlineMarshalN From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2005, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1986 times:

Yeah, I agree, and with the Air France tie up KLM is not really in a bad position at all. Sometimes I even wonder if KLM has been helping NWA to limp along... anyone has any financial insights?

User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4420 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1978 times:

Quoting Kahala777 (Reply 1):
A few things to look for if NWA ends service - Memphis, Minneapolis, Detroit, Seattle would loose service to Amsterdam. Boston would regain service ala KLM.

I don't think KLM will start a flight to BOS as they haven't flown to BOS in the years prior to the KL/NW link up. Detroit will probably remain in KLM's network and Seattle has a fair chance.

Quoting Kahala777 (Reply 1):
KLM, would take over all Amsterdam-India flights now flown by NWA.

This would be impossible given the current aviation treaty between The Netherlands and India. KLM already uses all the frequencies for DEL and HYD.

Quoting Kahala777 (Reply 1):
There is nothing lost with the end of NWA. Continental and Delta, could make up for NWA in a heartbeat.

Not correct. KLM will loose much as it doesn't have the level of intergration it currently has with NWA. Moreover it would start an application for anti-trust immunity as they (KLM) doesn't have this with CO and DL).


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