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Air Scotland Operational Difficulties  
User currently offlineCKT789 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2381 times:

Air Scotland seems to be having an awful few days. It started earlier this week when the plane was held at Edinburgh by the fuel supplier. This was supposed to be because the airline has now been sold to its Spanish partners and there was some confusion during the transfer of ownership.

However, over the weekend the delay seems to have gotten longer. The BAA website shows the 5.40am flight to Malaga as Gate Closed. Does anyone know if it has left and the website hasn't been updated? It was due to come back into Edinburgh from Malaga and there is no expected time for arrival yet.

On the Air Scotland's wesbite, it says that all passengers travelling between now and Friday must contact Customer Services ASAP to confirm their flight times. Does anyone know what will happen on Friday to clear this delay?

I guess these are the problems that you get when you operate a one aircraft airline.

BAA Glasgow Arrivals Board
http://www.baa.co.uk/portal/site/def...en&javax.portlet.endCacheTok=token

Air Scotland Website
http://www.air-scotland.co.uk

Glasgow Evening Times Story about delay earlier in the week
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/hi/news/5044545.html

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User currently offlineGLAGAZ From UK - Scotland, joined Feb 2004, 1982 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2352 times:

Its not that bad, the AGP flight was only 15 hours 9 minutes late arriving at GLABig grin

I imagine they just hope to have made up all the time lost by Friday, surely they should just try and charter another aircraft now to clear this backlog. GSM aircraft sit around at night doing nothing, get one of them on the job :P

Gaz



Neutrality means that u don't really care cos the struggle goes on even when ur not there, blind and unaware
User currently offlineScottishLaddie From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 2384 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2255 times:

Quoting GLAGAZ (Reply 1):
Its not that bad, the AGP flight was only 15 hours 9 minutes late arriving at GLA

So it now has to fly back to EDI then fly back out to AGP then fly back to GLA, all in time for tomorow mornings GLA-ATH flight!  banghead  Ain't happening!
What an embarrassment they are, won't last much longer, apparently they can't even afford to charter an another aircraft to clear their never ending back log of flights...


User currently offlineBY738 From Tonga, joined Sep 2000, 2264 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2217 times:

Quoting ScottishLaddie (Reply 2):
apparently they can't even afford to charter

Where did you get that tit-bit from....?


User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2193 times:

What I think they will end up doing is cancelling their CDG flights and re-book PAX on next available ones. That may help clear it all up.

Although, they must have a plan because on their website it says:

"Please note that all passengers travelling between Monday 17th October and Friday 21st October should contact our Customer Services Team on 0044 141 222 2362 to confirm their flight times."

Looking at the Dates above in bold suggests to me that they will ahve everything sorted out by Saturday.

Thanks
Mike


User currently offlineScottishLaddie From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 2384 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2171 times:

Quoting BY738 (Reply 3):
Where did you get that tit-bit from....?

They've been running a 8-13 hour delay on all flights for the past few days with no sign of them catching up, so why haven't they?


User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4119 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2155 times:

All flights are being cancelled from the 15th November to the end of the month anyway, as the aircraft will be undergoing maintenance. If they can't get a replacement for that then they're not going to get one for a few delays.

User currently offlineScottishLaddie From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 2384 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2129 times:

Quoting Planesarecool (Reply 6):
All flights are being cancelled from the 15th November to the end of the month anyway, as the aircraft will be undergoing maintenance. If they can't get a replacement for that then they're not going to get one for a few delays.

Indeed they are, which is equally laughable.  Wink


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24911 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2110 times:

They should drop all flights from EDI and focus on GLA.


When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2105 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 8):
They should drop all flights from EDI

haha, What flights?

We hardly see them in EDI anymore, it's like seeing a B747 in EDI. Very, Very rare.


I wonder if Air Scotland/Greece Airways will last to the end of the month. If they don't get another aircraft to replace the on going in for MX then i think it'll be the end of them. Not that they'll be missed much.

Thanks
Mike


User currently offlineScottishLaddie From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 2384 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2063 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 8):
They should drop all flights from EDI and focus on GLA.

That would be nice, would certainly save a lot of grief at EDI.


User currently offlineGLAGAZ From UK - Scotland, joined Feb 2004, 1982 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1968 times:

Quoting ScottishLaddie (Reply 10):
That would be nice, would certainly save a lot of grief at EDI.

It might help slightly but not greatly. What they really should do his scrap this whole 1 757 idea and get 2 smaller aicraft. Whether it be 737's, A320's, MD-82's I really don't care, they just can't go on like this.

Gaz



Neutrality means that u don't really care cos the struggle goes on even when ur not there, blind and unaware
User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1808 times:

what ever happened to Air Scotlands L1011 supposed new service to the states? ..and with a Tristar, I knew that sounded too good to be true  Wink

User currently offlineBaexecutive From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 726 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1725 times:

The whole outfit is a shambles, I say let them sink and let flyglobespan fill the void!

User currently offlineJmc757 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2000, 1298 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1693 times:

It would be a shame to see them go under, but what an operation. Shambles! Running late due to the aircraft being impounded TWICE in the last week! Hasty messages put on the website asking people to re-confirm times! Closing your airline down to cover maintenance!

This Evening Times article http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/hi/news/5044630.html mentions a second aircraft is now being used. Any news on that? I would guess not seeing as they're still very behind and dont expect to be back to normal until Saturday. Wonder if the new owners are regretting it yet?


User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1650 times:

TBH, I was impressed they have even lasted this long. They did seem a shables, and then flyglobespan came along and wasted them on frequency, reliability and everything else!


No trees were harmed by this message. However, several million electrons were terribly inconvenienced
User currently offlineAlcregular From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1616 times:

The lastest on their website shows the GLA/EDI-ALC flight tomorrow as running on time and is not being affected by the delays. Have they eventually brought in another aircraft to cover?

User currently offlineScottishLaddie From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 2384 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1599 times:

Quoting Alcregular (Reply 16):
Have they eventually brought in another aircraft to cover?

Looks like they are going to bring something in from tomorrow if that is to be believed, yeah. Long overdue now though!
I wonder what heap of junk they are going to bring in though!  Wow!  Wink


User currently offlineAlcregular From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1591 times:

Quoting ScottishLaddie (Reply 17):
I wonder what heap of junk they are going to bring in though!

A Viking Airlines MD83? lol


User currently offlineCKT789 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1531 times:

They must have chartered something as there are two GRE flights at GLA that are showing as Gate Open to ALC and CDG. The Paris and Palma flights from yesterday/overnight seem to have been forgotten about as they are just showing a blank status on the BAA website. Looks like SX-BLW arrived from Athens at 8.10am this morning when it should have arrived at 4.10pm yesterday.

Anyone know what aircraft is helping them out?


User currently offlineMACDADDY From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 174 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1517 times:

Its a Fischer Air Poland B757

MAC



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24911 posts, RR: 56
Reply 21, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1425 times:

It gets worse...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4353760.stm

[Edited 2005-10-18 16:43:39]


When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
User currently offlineJmc757 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2000, 1298 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1398 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 21):
It gets worse...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...0.stm

Oh dear. Can you blame Fischer Air though? If I was doing anything for Air Scotland I'd certainly want up front payment! Current info:

Glasgow
05:25 GRE2118 PALMA (no expected)
08:10 GRE2211 ALICANTE GATE OPEN (Who is operating it now?)

Edinburgh
15:30 GRE2222 ALICANTE EXPECTED 0220
16:30 GRE2221 ALICANTE (At least 0300? - got to arrive first!)


User currently offlineScottishLaddie From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 2384 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1347 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 21):
It gets worse...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4353760.stm

What a joke! Someone pull the plug!


User currently offlineRichard28 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 1603 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1339 times:

You'd have to be pretty mad to purchase tickets on this airline now.

Surely its game over?


25 GLAGAZ : They have now chartered an FCA 757 to op GLA-EDI-ALC. Gaz
26 Jmc757 : At last some better news! How come they found the money for First Choice but not Fischer Air?! Is it operating GLA-ALC-EDI-ALC-GLA or are the flights
27 CKT789 : This isn't great for Air Scotland's reputation in the market though. They are getting a lot of press coverage and people in my office now know about A
28 GLAGAZ : Not sure exactly of their timetable but I think all EDI flights originate in GLA. They only serve AGP and ALC from EDI. Gaz
29 David_itl : Which would explain "GRE900" leaving MAN about 30 mins ago. David
30 GLAGAZ : GRE505 would have been more appropriate. Gaz
31 Jmc757 : Hahaha! The usual flying is GLA-ALC-EDI-ALC-GLA, not sure what it'll do though. Depends how full the flights are. They'll do well to recover from thi
32 GLAGAZ : Flight GLASGOW - PALMA DE MALLORCA Plane:757 Destination PALMA DE MALLORCA Date 18/10/2005 Programmed time 18:00 Real time 19:01 Origin GLASGOW ______
33 GLAGAZ : 05:25 GRE2118 PALMA EXPECTED 2209 00:00 GRE2212 ALICANTE (no expected time) 08:10 GRE2211 ALICANTE GATE CLOSED 22:45 GRE2221 ALICANTE GATE OPEN Gaz
34 Post contains links CKT789 : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4356204.stm Looks like everything is settling down now. It is good that they are looking to expand, but we've hear
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