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User currently offlineGg190 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 160 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4390 times:

What airlines use callsigns which bear no relation to airlines name? Are there any explantations as to why they use that callsign?

One I can think of is British Airways using the "Speedbird" callsign. As is well known this dates back to the BOAC days. And BOAC used it becuase "speedbird" was the name given to their logo.

What others are there?

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User currently offlineBBJII From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 850 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4378 times:

CityJet (Air France Irish Partner) uses CityIreland - Although Cityjet was available at the time.


Remember: The Bird Hit You, You Didn't Hit The Bird.....
User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8632 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4371 times:
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Air Florida used to be "Palm" IIRC - while America West was ( maybe still is until the HP designator disappears completely ) "Cactus" - neither related to their operating names - but both related to their geographical bases I guess .


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User currently offlineDean From Hungary, joined Apr 2005, 216 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4365 times:

SkyEurope Hungary: Matra (name of a Hungarian mountain)
SkyEurope Slovakia: Relax

check out airlinecodes.co.uk


User currently offlineLeonB1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4357 times:

I've heard a number of 'unusual' ones... Netjets Europe recently started using 'Fraction' (which makes sense, fractional ownership) instead of 'Skyshare' (was being confused with Ryanair in some places). Others include 'Batman' (G5 Executive Switzerland), 'Snoopy' (Air Traffic GmbH Germany), 'Twinstar' (Daimler Chrysler Aviation). None of these callsigns really appear to link to the name of the aircraft operators!

User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8632 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4341 times:
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Can't believe I forgot these 3 in my previous reply


Two additional call signs that related to logos rather than airline names

Aer Lingus - Shamrock
South African Airways - Springbok


and of course the all time classic

Pan Am - Clipper


ooops - edited to add another one
CP - Empress ( from their days as a shipping company when their ships were all "Empress of _________ " )

[Edited 2005-10-16 22:55:36]


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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19259 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4328 times:

I don't understand why Ryanair uses Ryanair?    

[Edited 2005-10-16 22:52:30]


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineWAH64D From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 966 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4314 times:

From the UK

Airtours - Kestrel
Air 2000/First Choice - Jetset

Others

Trans State (American Connection) - Waterski
Air One (Italy) - Heron
UNI Airways Corporation (Taiwan) - Glory
Potomac Air, Inc. (USA) - District
Braathens ASA (Norway) - Scanor
Chicago Express Airlines, Inc. (USA) - Windy City (Geographic)
MyTravel Airways A/S (Denmark) - Viking

and my personal favourite:

Lufttaxi Fluggesellschaft mbH (Germany) - Garfield



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User currently offlineRaggi From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 1005 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4284 times:

waterski.
think it's a UAX carrier

raggi



Stick & Rudder
User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8632 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4284 times:
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oooh this is fun - they keep coming back to me - haven't quite lost all my marbles yet  old 

Valujet - "critter"



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User currently offlineBoysteve From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 958 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4278 times:

Quoting WAH64D (Reply 7):
Airtours - Kestrel

now known as My Travel.

EI - Shamrock (not linked to the name but certainly the heritage of the country)
Thomas Cook - TopJet
Excel - Expo

What is Jet2 @ MAN, I can never quite decipher it on the radio, it sounds like 'Chinex' or something like that.

The best however is linked to its name, and that is Baby for bmiBaby, 'cleared to land baby'
Always a laugh


User currently offlineC5onknees From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4243 times:

This isnt an odd callsign, but it's my fav: Atlas Air - Giant

User currently offlineKomododx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4200 times:

Quoting WAH64D (Reply 7):
Potomac Air, Inc. (USA) - District

Not too odd, given that the Potomac River runs through Washington, DC, where DC stands for District of Columbia.

Stefano  wave 


User currently offlineLeonB1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4201 times:

Quoting Boysteve (Reply 10):
What is Jet2 @ MAN, I can never quite decipher it on the radio, it sounds like 'Chinex' or something like that.

Probably the same as for Channel Express (I think jet2 is probably a trading name of Channel Express) which is 'Channex'.


User currently offlineJetmatt777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2851 posts, RR: 33
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4182 times:

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 6):
I don't understand why Ryanair uses Ryanair?

I thought Ryanair used-Ryan

Quoting Boysteve (Reply 10):
'cleared to land baby'

 up   up   up  thats funny  up   up   up 

I think Nothwest Airlink uses-Flagship



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User currently offlineSLUAviator From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 357 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4163 times:

Mesa uses Air Shuttle


USA3000 uses Getaway



What do I know? I just fly 'em.......
User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7653 posts, RR: 35
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4086 times:

One callsign that always baffeled me was from Canada300, they used "Elite".


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User currently offlinePolar1 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4043 times:

Former UAX carrier Atlantic Coast = Blue Ridge but now Independence. Shuttle America for Delta Connection = Shuttlecraft. AirTran Airways = Citrus. Atlantic Southeast Airlines (ASA) now owned by SkyWest = Candler. Pinnacle (NW Airlink) = Flagship.


Theme planes flown on: N218UA, N425QX, N443SW, N501SW, N610DL, N629SW, N653UA, N784AS, N792AS, N821SK
User currently offlineJetmatt777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2851 posts, RR: 33
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4028 times:

Quoting Jetmatt777 (Reply 14):
I think Nothwest Airlink uses-Flagship



Quoting Polar1 (Reply 17):
Pinnacle (NW Airlink) = Flagship

i guess i was right



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User currently offlineIlovenz From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 149 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4005 times:

Was there ever an airline that used "Silverbird" as their callsign? For years I thought American did, but maybe I was told that by a drunk.... Critter was my all-time favorite! And the "Critter" was cute too. Too bad he's not around anymore.

User currently offlineBtriple7 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1185 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3998 times:

Quoting Boysteve (Reply 10):
EI - Shamrock (not linked to the name but certainly the heritage of the country)

It also has a whole lot to do with the livery.



Just...fly.
User currently offlineBoeing747_600 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1295 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3983 times:

How could you guys forget

China Airlines : Dynasty

?!


User currently offlineMissedApproach From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 713 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3962 times:

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 5):
CP - Empress ( from their days as a shipping company when their ships were all "Empress of _________ " )

Aha! True, & if you check the airplanes, they too had Empress names on them:

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Another, less happy Empress: http://www.pbs.org/lostliners/empress.html



Can you hear me now?
User currently offlineYegger From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 69 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3958 times:

"ooops - edited to add another one
CP - Empress ( from their days as a shipping company when their ships were all "Empress of _________ " )"

The callsign "Empress" has now been taken by Canadian North. There was a lot of debate about this in aviation circles at the time as some felt that the name was still property of Air Canada which CP is now a part of.

"One callsign that always baffeled me was from Canada300, they used "Elite"."

Not sure how they initially got this callsign, but having known several people who worked for that airline when it was around, I can certainly say that it fit the airline well. Canada3000 was a superbly run airline, with excellent employees. However, they only hired people who fit a very particular image/personality - the "elite," so to speak!


User currently offlineYegger From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 69 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3949 times:

I forgot to add my personal favorite - "Dynasty." It's the callsign of China Airlines (the one from Taiwan as opposed to mainland China's "Air China").

25 FI642 : Icelandair = Ice Air BWIA = West Indian FI642
26 Kohflot : You know you work for an airline with an obscure callsign when you call center on the phone, identify yourself as being from "*callsign* dispatch" and
27 Dtwclipper : New York Air: Apple
28 TrappedInMKG : "Waterski" is Trans States Most of the controllers around here refer to Midwest Airlines as "MidEx".
29 Jetlagged : Kalitta Air's callsign is Connie, unrelated until you realise it's the first name of the airline's owner. Miami Air's callsign is Biscayne (local geog
30 Tjwgrr : More.... AirTran = Citrus China Airlines Cargo = Cargo King Atlantic Coast (ACA)= Blue Ridge Atlantic Southeast (ASA) = Candler Continental Express =
31 AirworldA320 : Astraeus - FLYSTAR Some older ones: Airworld! - ENVOY Canada 3000 - ELITE
32 Post contains images IflyI : More..... Air Paridise - Radisair Blue Line - Blue Berry dBa - Speedway Easy Jet (CH) - Top Swiss (Just like that one!) Helvetic - Arabella Kulula - C
33 EGTESkyGod : Flybe uses Jersey, which doesn't bear any resemblance, until you delve a bit deeper and realise that before they were Flybe or British European, they
34 AirEuropeUK733 : I also understand that before that they were SpaceGrand. Wonder what call-sign they used then? AE733
35 WAH64D : Hardly suprising, BWIA is the abbreviated form of British West Indies Airways. Its "Channex", Jet2 is owned by Channel Express.
36 IAHFLYR : That is their assigned call sign!
37 Post contains links Ca2ohHP : http://www.monitoringtimes.com/html/mtaircall.html
38 Post contains images Iberiadc852 : If the ATC was a female, it could sound a kind of "invitation"
39 WAH64D : Also a favourite hand off line when crossing into the French Brest control FIR is "roger, baby to brest, good day"
40 FaroeFlyer : This is probably because Braathens has recently merged with SAS ("Scandinavian") and is responsible for all Norwegian SAS flights. SCAndinavian NORwa
41 N766UA : I would hope so! MidEx is their callsign! As for Waterski, when TSA started they used to fly junkets for lots of waterskiers on vacation, thus the ca
42 Post contains links and images Lijnden : I remember some: Polar Air Cargo: Polar Tigers TMA Cargo: Tango Lima CargOman: Hotel Charlie Affretair: Afro Air Excel Tanzania: Tinga-Tinga African S
43 Post contains images SA006 : Comair is their callsign since they're owned by Comair LTD SA. One weird one I've never figured out : Inter Air South Africa - "E-Line" And one last
44 WAH64D : That one had me wondering. They say you learn something new every day, thats my piece of knowledge for today then. A couple more: Zambian Airways - M
45 LVTMB : Arrow Cargo -- Big A MB
46 FutureFO : Chautauqua: Chautauqua Shuttle America: ShuttleCraft Republic: Brickyard Skyway: Skywayx Midwest: MidEx TransStates: Waterski Allegheny: Allegehny Air
47 Post contains images SkyexRamper : And ExpressJet is Jetlink, whats everyone's point...     ACA use to be Blueridge.[Edited 2005-10-18 06:50:40][Edited 2005-10-18 06:51:10]
48 FlyXJT : and ExpressJet is one word, whats yours
49 Scanwing : No, Nordic Regional use Northrider. Britannia Nordic = Bluescan (this airline was Blue Scandinavia some years ago) Novair = Navigator Viking Airlines
50 United_fan : I just heard 'Newdawn 2 ' depart JFK . That's a new one . I also heard 'Brickyard' last month.
51 Rikkus67 : LeonB1985... TWinstar comes from the fact Daimler-Chrysler both use stars in their respective logos... Daimler (-Benz): 3 point star, Chrysler (Corp.)
52 JCS17 : "Critter" was a pretty odd one for Valujet, referring to the weird smiling, waving plane on the tail. All callsigns that don't refer to their 3-letter
53 Post contains images Rampkontroler : While not an "airline" callsign per se, one of my favorites is a tiny local carrier flying a Cessna Skymaster in the Cleveland area that goes by the n
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