DELTA FLYER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (16 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 895 times:
I personally experienced that the three-engined aircrafts climb and fly better than all the other aircrafts. In other words, the DC-10 and MD-11 are more powerful than B767-300ER and B-777 when taking off. Although they consume more fuel than the others, they give a better performance ...
Cedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8435 posts, RR: 54
Reply 1, posted (16 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 895 times:
a tri-jet is less powerful and has a lesser max climb performance than a twin. To be certified for operation, a new plane must be able to climb with one engine out. So a 757 must be able to climb with half of it's power lost, whereas an MD11, TriStar or 727 must be able to climb with only a third of it's power lost (not sure of exact rule on 4 engine designs). You can see that the power in reserve on a twin is correspondingly higher, and a twin would be able to outclimb any trijet, let alone any 4-engine design. This is why in some circles (the author included), twins are safer than 3- and 4-engine designs because most accidents occur on take-off and landing, virtually never over the ocean. The greater power-to-weight ratio in a twin gives an extra margin of power when it may be most needed.
fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
JETPILOT From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3130 posts, RR: 27
Reply 2, posted (16 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 895 times:
You can't possibly evaluate the performance of the aircraft you were on. You don't know the factors involved to determine performance. What was the density altitude, the weight of the aircraft. Was it a max power takeoff or a reduced power takeoff. Was there a climb gradient to be met. Were noise abatment procedures in effect. These factors change with every aircraft form flight to flight. The performance of the jet is impossible to estimate from a passenger who know none of the variables.