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Royal Jordanian To Join Oneworld  
User currently offlineKKMolokai From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 760 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 8170 times:

Monday, 17 October 2005

Royal Jordanian to join oneworld, heralding launch of new recruitment drive


Royal Jordanian is to join oneworld. It will be the alliance's first recruit for more than five years, heralding the start of a new phase of membership expansion.

The first carrier from the Levant, Middle East and Gulf region to be elected on board any of the global airline groupings, it accepted its invitation to join at a ceremony today conducted in the presence of His Majesty King Abdullah II bin Al Hussein at the Royal Palace in Amman, the airline's home base.

Representing oneworld and its existing members were:

oneworld Governing Board Chairman Fernando Conte, Chairman and Chief Executive of Iberia.
Martin Broughton, Chairman of British Airways, which is acting as the sponsor for Royal Jordanian's entry into the alliance.
oneworld Managing Partner John McCulloch.
Representing Royal Jordanian were its Chairman Dr Ummaya Toukan and President and Chief Executive Samer Majali.

oneworld Management Team representatives from both BA and Iberia also traveled for the event – BA's Director of Investments and Joint Ventures Roger Maynard and General Manager Alliances Adrian Tighe and Iberia's Senior Vice-President International Relations Elvira Herrero, along with BA oneworld Project Director Julia Gladwin and oneworld Vice-President Public Relations Michael Blunt.

Joining them was David Richardson, Chief Executive of oneworld affiliate and BA franchisee BMED, the only oneworld member currently serving Royal Jordanian's Amman hub.

Royal Jordanian has already satisfied oneworld's key pre-joining audits, assuring the grouping that it can deliver the alliance's services, benefits and processes and also match its demanding quality and safety standards.

Work will now begin on connecting its IT systems to those of its new partners, bringing key internal processes into line with oneworld requirements, training its employees to deliver oneworld products, customer benefits and support, and completing the other tasks needed before it can become a fully-fledged member of the alliance.

It should start offering oneworld services and benefits, as a fully-fledged member of the alliance, at around the turn of 2006/2007.

oGB Chairman and Iberia Chairman and CEO Fernando Conte said: "oneworld's focus during the past few years has been on helping our member airlines weather the financial turbulence that has rocked this industry, by building revenues and cutting costs. The results of this strategy are reflected in oneworld being the only alliance whose members are collectively profitable.

"Now our member airlines are at the stage where they feel it is sensible for the alliance to recruit in regions where we would like to broaden our network. We are delighted that Royal Jordanian will fill that role for oneworld in the growing Middle Eastern market."

BA Chairman Martin Broughton added: "Royal Jordanian is an excellent fit for oneworld. It meets the high quality customer standards that oneworld demands of all its members, with a network that complements what we currently offer. It is profitable, with a management in tune with our approach to business. We at British Airways look forward to working with our new colleagues to bring Royal Jordanian on board the world's leading quality alliance."

Royal Jordanian Chief Executive Samer Majali commented: "Accepting oneworld's invitation to join is an exciting step for Royal Jordanian. The Middle East is the fastest growing aviation market, and we are the first airline from this region to find a home in a global alliance. There is no doubt that our future strategy and recent performance make us an attractive partner for other high quality airlines. This development is in tune with our ambition to privatise and to strengthen Amman's role as a regional hub.

"We are delighted to strengthen oneworld's excellent worldwide network with better coverage of our region. Our passengers are increasingly asking more from us and oneworld will extend our reach enormously. Royal Jordanian's passengers will enjoy privileged access to a group of airlines that we trust and are certain to take excellent care of them."


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User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8525 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 8141 times:
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Wow - that came out of nowhere - I don't even recall seeing any rumours about this - do you have a link for this release ?


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User currently offline7LBAC111 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 35
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 8122 times:

What does this do to the proposed 'Arab LEague of Carriers' (or whatever they were going to call it?

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User currently offlineAirEuropeUK733 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 976 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 8103 times:

There is an article on Royal Jordanian in this month's edition of AirlinerWorld.

Seems like they've got their house in order - good luck to them!

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User currently offlineNetworkDoc From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 8103 times:

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 1):
Wow - that came out of nowhere

That's what I was thinking. Got themselves good ME coverage now. Great news for oneworld! It's starting to look like a fully GLOBAL alliance. Super feeder opportunities for BA in particular.  thumbsup 



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User currently offlineKevi747 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1058 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 8094 times:

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 1):
Wow - that came out of nowhere - I don't even recall seeing any rumours about this - do you have a link for this release ?

Yeah, I work for AA and had heard nothing about this, but it's true.

http://www.oneworldalliance.com/pres...releases/details.cfm?ObjectID=6017



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User currently offlineKomododx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 8024 times:

What about Malev joining OW? Will it happen?

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User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8525 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 8010 times:
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Wow , now that I am over my initial shock I have to congratulate OW - firstly on an additional member in an area where none of the alliances currently have coverage - but even more so on managing to keep this "leak-proof" until the announcement - there are always rumours for months before any announcement - I can't remember ever being this unprepared for an announcement - how did they keep it quiet until they were ready - truly amazing feat given how people in aviation love to gossip !


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User currently offlineDean From Hungary, joined Apr 2005, 216 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 7976 times:

Quoting Komododx (Reply 6):
What about Malev joining OW? Will it happen?

According to the last info, MA will join to OneWorld in 2006 also.


User currently offlineSamL From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 162 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 7948 times:

I guess this will make OW the first alliance to fly to Iraq

User currently offlineMIASkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1342 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 7935 times:

Hmm I would love for Royal Jordanian to return to MIA! Could this now be a possibility w/ the AA fortress at MIA?


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User currently offlinePlanesailing From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 815 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 7904 times:

Quoting AirEuropeUK733 (Reply 3):
There is an article on Royal Jordanian in this month's edition of AirlinerWorld.

Yup and in that article there is comments about Royal Jordanian aiming to join an alliance by the end of 2005.


User currently offlinePM From India, joined Feb 2005, 6849 posts, RR: 63
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 7888 times:

There was a thread last week about a possible move by RJ to replace their A310s. I was among those who didn't see any rush. But does joining Oneworld now make a new fleet more likely?

User currently offlineEurostarVA From Bahrain, joined May 2002, 1296 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 7849 times:

This is VERY interesting indeed....curious to see to what extent RJ will improve its image problem: frequent good and bad reviews meaning inconsitent levels of service. With improvements in customer service, increased frequencies, brand-new Airbus A321s on order, and broader Middle Eastern coverage, they will be a great addition to Oneworld.

I recall from years ago their long haul product was a nightmare, but their short haul flights are always pleasant.



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User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4506 posts, RR: 54
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 7852 times:

Quoting KKMolokai (Thread starter):
Royal Jordanian is an excellent fit for oneworld. It meets the high quality customer standards that oneworld demands of all its members

Not according to some of the trip reports on here.

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In my opinion oneworld still needs an link between the US and northern Asia. CX is too far south and AA doesn't cover much in the region.

My question is what does this mean for BMED flights in the region? Can we expect to see BA mainline at AMM?



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User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4506 posts, RR: 54
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 7774 times:

Online booking on their website wouldn't hurt either. This could be a good thing for RJ as they may have to upgrade their product.


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User currently offlineSquirrel83 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 7704 times:

Im so glad Oneworld is growing! Great News!



Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 1):
Wow - that came out of nowhere - I don't even recall seeing any rumours about this - do you have a link for this release ?

http://www.oneworld.com/pressroom/releases/details.cfm?ObjectID=6017


User currently offlineBrokenrecord From United States of America, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 772 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 7691 times:

Guess this answers the question about the HP/RJ codeshare currently in place.

Also, maybe this could be the catalyst Star Alliance needs to recruit QR.


User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3235 posts, RR: 32
Reply 18, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 7673 times:

It's great to hear such news! Oneworld has finally decided to expand with two new members and both of them (Malev and Royal Jordanian) seem like a good fit for the airline's needs.

But, what about Arabesk? Can an airline be a member of two alliances? Does RJ still seriously consider Arabic alliance or dropped that idea in favour of global alliance such as OneWorld?



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User currently offlineEK156 From United Arab Emirates, joined May 2005, 765 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 7655 times:

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 18):
But, what about Arabesk? Can an airline be a member of two alliances? Does RJ still seriously consider Arabic alliance or dropped that idea in favour of global alliance such as OneWorld?

Some how I believe RJ joined One World because of the Arabesk! Is RJ part of Arabes? I need to check that... but if they are not, then this way they have the support of strong airlines against that of the Arabesk Alliance!!!


User currently offlineHEGAN From Spain, joined Feb 2005, 211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 7505 times:

Quote:
Its 3,200 staff operate a fleet of 21 aircraft – including Airbus A340s, A310s, A321s and A320s and Bombardier Dash 8 Q300s and Q400s. Last year, the airline boarded 1.7 million passengers.

It isn't a big airline in terms of fleet or passengers, but definitely covers a very important part of the market (they even fly to Bagdad!).

A very good incorporation. Let see if Gulf Air or Emirates opt for joinin to Star or Sky.

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User currently offlineAA767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2332 posts, RR: 26
Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 7469 times:

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 14):
In my opinion oneworld still needs an link between the US and northern Asia. CX is too far south and AA doesn't cover much in the region.

I think that JL will fill the need in North East Asia, it would be the perfect fit. One wonders if JL will ever join an alliance.

Also MU has been rumored to join Oneworld, but that again is if, and when.



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User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8525 posts, RR: 14
Reply 22, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 7464 times:
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Interesting wording in the release

It is the first carrier from the Levant, Middle East and Gulf region to be elected on board any of the global airline groupings - and the first airline accepted to join oneworld for more than five years.

note no mention of MA - in fact the current press release states

Royal Jordanian has already satisfied oneworld's key pre-joining audits, assuring the grouping that it can deliver the alliance's services, benefits and processes and also match its demanding quality and safety standards.

while the previous release relating to MA says only

The agreement is subject to Malév meeting a number of requirements, including:

Confirmation that it can comply with the full service delivery specifications of the alliance.
Full quality and safety audits.
Delivery of its new business plan.
When these requirements are met, Malév could be expected to join the alliance in 2006.


in other words RJ will definitely be in - MA still has to prove itself



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User currently offlineCX777FAN From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 294 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 7410 times:

Quoting AA767400 (Reply 21):
I think that JL will fill the need in North East Asia, it would be the perfect fit. One wonders if JL will ever join an alliance.

Slightly off topic perhaps, but what's stopping JL joining Oneworld? They already have milage deals with many OW airlines, and codeshare flights with one or two...it seems odd that they aren't a member.


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 24, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 7367 times:

Quoting HEGAN (Reply 20):

A very good incorporation. Let see if Gulf Air or Emirates opt for joinin to Star or Sky.

hopefully soon, as they already have a nice code sharing deal with AA..in fact, when I was @ LHR in August, I remember seeing some AA flights with an Gulf Air tag also...

same thing on some flightview.com



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25 SamL : I also remember reading a press realease about some BA / JL codeshare agreement which said that JL had a standing invitation to join OW and I would h
26 Post contains images Kiwiandrew : ooops - caught out - should have read it more thoroughly ! Glad you still see the point I meant to make though
27 Commavia : Very smart move on oneworld's part, IMO. They will now be the first airline with a full member in the Middle East region, where air traffic demand is
28 Post contains links BA : “None of the eight airlines are part of any global alliance. However, their membership in the Arab air alliance should not preclude them from joini
29 Dean : I heared TAM would join to SkyTeam, not oneworld. Is that right?
30 Commavia : I'm not sure, but seeing as they just dropped their codesharing deal with their largest partner in SkyTeam, Air France, I don't see them joining that
31 USADreamliner : I love Royal Jordanian and I'm happy to hear the news,but don't you think that RJ ia alittle small for an alliance?
32 Blsbls99 : I thought I had read previous threads about AF and DL pursuing GOL for possibly codeshare within Brazil?
33 Post contains links Meerkat : There have been a few posts here and on FT regarding JL's not joining an alliance as they wouldn't gain much themselves. From memory it's largely bec
34 Post contains images Anxebla : And just by an analogy matter ...why not creating an "Christian" Alliance? I think that issue is a not good idea as my wish is seeing all Arabic word
35 Post contains images Jacobin777 : many Christians are arabs too......
36 AA54Heavy : That doesn't make much sense...ANA seems to be working fine with Star Alliance....plus, JAL flies alot of places, but they can't get you to Dallas, A
37 Post contains images Byrdluvs747 : I can't understand the excitement of adding these second rate airlines to OW. First Malev, now RJ? Personally, I believe BA dropped the ball by compli
38 Post contains images Detroiter : No worries, Arab alliance (ARABESK) by all means does not mean (Muslim alliance)      [Edited 2005-10-17 21:23:46]
39 Post contains images Anxebla : Not "many" ...just a few "Arabic" name comes from Arabic peninsula. I know Arabic is not a synonymous of "Muslim" By the way ...congratulations to bo
40 TUNisia : I'd love to see Gulf Air or Etihad join One World too.. we need more Arab and African carriers in One World, there are more than enough Asian carriers
41 EK156 : I don't think EK would join any alliance any time soon if ever!!! If anything, I would think that EK would buy shares in airlines like they did in Sr
42 ANstar : There is only one Asian carrier in Oneworld... what are you on?
43 Kiwiandrew : more than enough Asian carriers ??? hmmm , let's see there's CX , that's one .....ummmmm , oh yeah , CX .. hang on a minute ... oh , what about CX ..
44 Post contains images Anxebla : Agree!! But I think EK doesn't want be part in an alliance, and the same thing goes to JAL. My God, I hope not!!!!
45 EK156 : Just a few???? What is a few 50?? or 100??? Mate you seriously are digging a hole for your self!!! A whole where all the rascists in the world fall i
46 Post contains links BA : What??? Christian Alliance? What does religion have anything to do with the Arab airlines create a loose regional alliance to better compete against
47 Anxebla : No, I'm not ...I'm very sorry if you are thinking something like that ...or my English is worst I think, or you make mistake yourself ...or you are a
48 Anxebla : Nothing!!! Of course ...but, can you read all the post??? ...enough?? I am not a racist ...but you can believe it o not. That is not already my busin
49 Byrdluvs747 : And yet you write a whole paragraph about it.
50 EK156 : Okay maybe i got a bit over excited... I guess we misunderstood you mate!!! Damn!!! I understand you mate... sorry for the earlier remarks!!! Anyways
51 Anxebla : Are you talking to me, EK156 ?? Well ...and coming back to the main topic, I think it is a good news to both, OW and RJ. Anyhow, OW needs another par
52 Abrelosojos : = Hahahaha ... are you serious? RJ has one of the worst inflight service I know operating out of a ridiculously boring hub @ AMM. One World continues
53 Gilesdavies : This has taken me by surprise... I was also reading the Airlinerworld, and it stated Royal Jordanian were considering joining an alliance but the way
54 Kanebear : I think OneWorld is more concerned with network reach than how "interesting" the hub is. Considering that RJ gives OneWorld reach that NO OTHER allia
55 Brokenrecord : Yikes!! The guy can't speak English well, and is probably using Babelfish to translate to English, and it didn't come out well. To be honest, I thoug
56 Commavia : Have heard that RJ may not be oneworld's only new member this year. Apparently, they are holding continuing discussions with several other potential m
57 MarshalN : I think Meerkat has the answer to that one -- CX is cosying up to CA, and that's just part of business. I wouldn't be surprised if CA joins some alli
58 EK156 : Yep. Misunderstanding!!! All is well now!!! Yeah.. I got over excited as well.... But then I realised what he meant and calmed down and appologized a
59 Aerokiwi : Compared to the other major carriers in the Middle East, it looks like Oneworld got a real dud. Emirates, Gulf Air, Egypt Air, Etihad, Qatar - any of
60 Post contains images Brokenrecord : I saw that
61 Post contains images Anxebla : What is that?? I know my English is far far away from be perfect; but it is not so bad. When you see a word in quotation marks the real meaning sligh
62 Post contains images Brokenrecord : Anexbla, Babelfish is an online translator for multiple languages. Many people use it on here as they must post in English. Gracias por su oferta. Mi
63 Semsem : EK 156 for your information with all due respect, there are no more Jewish Arabs. The Arab countries threw all the Jews out after the 1948 war with I
64 Post contains images Anxebla : OK, perfect, then still Mr. "What does religion have anything to do with the Arab airlines create a loose regional alliance?" is the last one to excu
65 Post contains images Fbgdavidson : Sounds more third world than oneworld
66 Post contains links Anxebla : There is an online English/Spanish/French/Italian Dictionary ...it is wonderful, also it includes a forum to practise languages and to solve language
67 Okees : "RJ has one of the worst inflight service I know operating out of a ridiculously boring hub @ AMM" It might be true that RJ has poor inflight ENTERTAI
68 Post contains images Brokenrecord : Seems similar to Babelfish. Thanks for the link!
69 BA : Emirates isn't interested in joining an alliance. I'm not entirely sure about Qatar Airways or Etihad Airways. I remember Gulf Air was supposidly eye
70 JAL : Great news for OneWorld, first Malev and now Royal Jordanian!!! Hopefully more like JAL ; Malaysian and more will join!!
71 Post contains images NZPM : Woah! I did NOT see that one coming! While it's great to see oneworld growing, I can hardly see the point in this (I can see the benefit to RJ)
72 Post contains images Byrdluvs747 : Maybe they could use some of that US economic aid to buy a few 787's.
73 Aerokiwi : Jordan is hardly a destination in itself and the Gulf carriers all have excellent connections to cities throughout the Middle East. If this is the bes
74 Trolley Dolley : Is RJ really a "dud"? Looking at the route map, RJ flies from North America to Asia. It has one of the most extensive route networks of a Middle Easte
75 Okees : Well, RJ benefited oneworld, which now gives them an advantage over the other alliances. RJ now added destinations in Iraq, Egypt and Jordan to the li
76 EK156 : Anxebla, I appologized in a couple of posts above but my paste was wrong and they came out in the name of Byrdluvs!!! Anyways once again Lo Siento!!!
77 AF022 : I have to agree. I don't think RJ opens up many markets not already served by just BA itself. RJ sells a lot of 6th-freedom tickets from Europe & the
78 Kiwiandrew : While I agree that RJ does not add a lot of destinations what it does add is another method of "Heathrow avoidance" - all existing OW hubs in Europe
79 Mozart : I could not find any route map on their website. Did I miss it, or is there another source? Thanks
80 Semsem : >>You are wrong. There are still alot of jews living in the Arab World. In Syria for example, there are alot of jews who opted to stay But let us reme
81 MarshalN : For those of you interested in engaging in a Jewish/Arab debate -- care to take this to the non-aviation forum?
82 Semsem : >>Jordan is hardly a destination in itself
83 Aerokiwi : Oh I have no doubt that jordan has some amazing sites and things to do. But it remains very much a "developing" country (can't say thrid world anymore
84 Commavia : Not to my knowledge. However, TK has an excellent and very productive working relationship with AA that gives them domestic distribution throughout t
85 Brokenrecord : There is connecting biz traffic to Baghdad.
86 EK156 : It is strange how you see that occupying a country and then telling their people to either accept splitting it or face being thrown out is a normal p
87 A330323X : Probably, though not necessarily. While HP/US confirmed months ago that they were ending the BA/VS relationships, they also confirmed that they would
88 Semsem : EK156 I agree that we should return to the "airline topic" as this is not a political board. However you brought up the Arab Jews. We no longer exist
89 Semsem : BA thank you for being "honest" and for the info about Beirut. Would love to visit Lebanon one day as a "tourist" of course. Allah Wayak
90 Beyauty : I am glad to hear that, because AMM is a second class airport with inadequate facilities, that would keep world class travelers away. Way to go RJ!
91 Post contains images ELAL 744 : Welcome to El Al - the worlds only "Jewish Alliance" Seriously: I am pleased RJ has joined OW. I have flown them occasionally and have yet to have a
92 YAK42 : I have to disagree, Amman is a very large and developed city and many tourists come to vist Petra, the Dead sea and the Aqaba seaside resort. Yes Jor
93 Semsem : Yak I agree. And Wadi Rum is also quite wonderful where Lawrence of Arabia used to hang around. Jordan is a great country to visit.
94 Abrelosojos : = Just curious, do you know the origin of the word "3rd world"? Also, does human rights, women's equality, democracy play in your definition of "deve
95 NYCFlyer : People seem to forget that Jordan is the U.S.'s closest ally in the Middle East. Perhaps that could have something to do with it. This could be a rewa
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