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Allegiant Announces ABE To SFB  
User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5821 posts, RR: 28
Posted (9 years 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3812 times:

As rumored, Allegiant announced service from Lehigh Valley International Airport to Orlando today.

Flights will operate Mon, Thurs, Fri and Sun. Leaves ABE at 12:40 pm. Arrives back at ABE at 12:05 pm.

http://www.allegiantair.com/pr/101805.htm


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User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3791 times:

Wow, a "real" airline running it, instead of a charter. (No offense to my Pace/Hooters friends though!)

Any chance of Allegiant hooking us back up with Vegas since Hooters quietly pulled their 757 out of town? I'm sure it would need a stop somewhere though, wouldn't it?

Anyone know whos doing ground ops? 35 minute turns will be a little quick with all that Florida luggage, considering anyone doing ground ops at ABE now is used to just stuffing 50 seat RJ's primarily.


User currently offlineMFEFlyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 367 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3761 times:

This is great for Allegiant, wow, what a great airline expanding rapidly.
Just a question, would G4 ever aquire other aircraft aside from the MD aircraft, such as a 752 or 738?



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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5821 posts, RR: 28
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3747 times:

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 1):
35 minute turns will be a little quick with all that Florida luggage

Interestingly the 35 minute turns seem to be the norm for nearly all the SFB flights. But the LAS runs are normally scheduled at 40 minute turns.



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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5821 posts, RR: 28
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3736 times:

Quoting MFEFlyer (Reply 2):
Just a question, would G4 ever aquire other aircraft aside from the MD aircraft, such as a 752 or 738?

I can only guess since they seem to surprise me more and more these days. But my feeling is that Allegiant will probably follow the example of Southwest and stay with 1 aircraft series for the near future.

[Edited 2005-10-18 18:08:45]


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User currently offlineMFEFlyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 367 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3730 times:

Is the MD series capable of doing long haul flights, and would G4 ever consider doing LAS-SFB?


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User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4416 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3707 times:
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Quoting MFEFlyer (Reply 5):
Is the MD series capable of doing long haul flights, and would G4 ever consider doing LAS-SFB?

Unless there was a stop, no. I don't see it happening in the near future in my opinion

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 1):
Any chance of Allegiant hooking us back up with Vegas since Hooters quietly pulled their 757 out of town? I'm sure it would need a stop somewhere though, wouldn't it?

Doubt it, since a stop would be required. TOL and LAN are already stretching the range of the MD-83 to LAS.


User currently offlineB757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3703 times:

Good luck to G4. Our ABE-MCO flights have been running great.

As far as the quietly pulling the 757 out of town. Well hey if you cant make money somewhere you need to put it somewhere you can.

I doubt ABE-LAS especially if G4 wants to look at the piss poor loads we had out of there.



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User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3693 times:

Quoting B757capt (Reply 7):
As far as the quietly pulling the 757 out of town. Well hey if you cant make money somewhere you need to put it somewhere you can.

I'm not denying that, but a 757 was a pretty big bird for any run from ABE. Someone needs to talk to Mr. Doughty though, as of Sunday evening there was still a sign for LAS flights on Hooters at ABE.

One stormy night, I do remember seeing that thing landing here damn near full. The poor economy parking lot shuttle driver wasn't able to drop off all the customers at their trunks like normal, because he had a few bus loads still waiting at the terminal. In general though, too many people had WN on their brain here and were driving to PHL.


User currently offlineATCRick From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 772 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3652 times:

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 4):
I can only guess since they seem to surprise me more and more these days

Oh my goodness!!! FATFlyer, sir, how could anything happening at G4 surprise you? You are the all knowing omnipotent one here!!!!

I think ABE will be a good market. I have good vibes about this one.

Cheers,


Atc Rick



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User currently offlineFlyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2008 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3650 times:

Another destination for Allegiant. Absolutely great! Glad to see they will be filling in the voids left by the other carriers that used to fly these routes. I know it's too late this season, but maybe in 2007 could Allegiant open up either MIA or FLL for cruise season and open up cruise packages? I was just wondering if they were thinking of that option as long term thinking. Thanks in advance if anyone has any info  Smile

User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5821 posts, RR: 28
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3644 times:

Quoting ATCRick (Reply 9):
Oh my goodness!!! FATFlyer, sir, how could anything happening at G4 surprise you? You are the all knowing omnipotent one here!!!!

LOL oh yeah it still does. Like the announcement today of the new in-flight retail system to process credit cards. I thought it would be a while before we saw G4 adopt anything like that.
http://home.businesswire.com/portal/...&newsId=20051018005239&newsLang=en



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User currently offlineB757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3613 times:

Well ABE does have LAS service via hooters but,......... Its a very very long day to get there. Only on Thursdays (outbound Sunday Return.) ABE-MYR 737-200 then 737-300 MYR-RFd-LAS. Return is the same just flipped routing.


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User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3594 times:

That's a lonnnnnng day B757. How bad were the loads? Although a 733 doesn't have the legs to go ABE-LAS does it?

User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3830 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3583 times:

Rick, how many more ex TMA cities are left?

User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3575 times:

Quoting Flyinryan99 (Reply 10):
but maybe in 2007 could Allegiant open up either MIA or FLL for cruise season and open up cruise packages?

I don't know if you know, but Hooters already runs ABE-FLL. I think it's 2x weekly. I'm sure B757 could help us with that.

IMHO, it would be prudent for Allegiant to advertise down 476 towards PHL more (say near Mid-County, for us locals), and out 78 into NJ a bit, as well.


User currently offlineATCRick From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 772 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3595 times:

Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 14):
Rick, how many more ex TMA cities are left?

Hi Kcrwflyer,

I don't know. We are about to rap up 2 weeks of flying for Funjet, who had TMA doing LAS-CLE and LAS-SAT service. Who knows whats next? Goodness knows where the next turn will take us. We are already starting SFB-PSM, SFB-SWF, SFB-ORH, LAS-TOL, and TOL-SFB service. FATFlyer, did I miss anything?????



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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5821 posts, RR: 28
Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 week 1 day ago) and read 3563 times:

Quoting ATCRick (Reply 16):
FATFlyer, did I miss anything?????

I lose track too. Plus I'm told there is a strong possibility of another route announcement this week. Lots of rumored cities these days so I'm not even going to speculate.



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User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3830 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 week 1 day ago) and read 3559 times:

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 17):
I lose track too. Plus I'm told there is a strong possibility of another route announcement this week. Lots of rumored cities these days so I'm not even going to speculate.

Come on. Just toss em all out there so that we allegiant fans can let our imaginations run wild.


User currently offlineLoisencroach From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 373 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 week 1 day ago) and read 3550 times:

I like both Hooters and Allegiant. Have from day 1. But if Hooters doesn't get their act together and start running their airline like an airline instead of a restaurant, Allegiant is going to eat Hooters (no pun intended).

Wait...I just thought of it....how about Hooters Girls on Allegiant as a severance? Maybe G4 can come up with their own brand of chiken wings, less greasy? Oh man....the brain cells are turnin' today!!!

[Edited 2005-10-18 23:39:06]

[Edited 2005-10-18 23:42:30]  box 

[Edited 2005-10-18 23:51:53]

User currently offlineB757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 1 week 1 day ago) and read 3548 times:

As of November 11th ALL of our Florida service of ABE and AVP will go to FLL, MCO and PIE 6 days a week, no Tuesday flights. BIG AIRCRAFT UTILIZATION. almost 14 hour block days.

NO the 733 CANNOT fly ABE-LAS nonstop and the AVERAGE loads wouldn't of filed a CRJ.



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User currently offlineLoisencroach From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 373 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (9 years 1 week 1 day ago) and read 3548 times:

Quoting B757capt (Reply 20):

Can Gary take a fully loaded 757? I heard Hooters tried once but had to divert to RFD in the summer.


User currently offlineMFEFlyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 367 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (9 years 1 week 1 day ago) and read 3544 times:

Will G4 ever fly into larger cities (as an airline of course), such as LAX or IAH?


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User currently offlineLoisencroach From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 373 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (9 years 1 week 1 day ago) and read 3529 times:

So, if Allegiant is going to keep it under 1,000,000 (with the exception of OKC), then this leaves Harrisburg and Syracuse in terms of covering TMA's service......

User currently offlineATCRick From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 772 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (9 years 1 week 1 day ago) and read 3514 times:

Quoting MFEFlyer (Reply 22):
Will G4 ever fly into larger cities (as an airline of course), such as LAX or IAH?

Hi Miguel,

Not if there is any direct competition in that market. The G4 market is underserviced markets and that niche seems to work. But, again, the guys making those decisions are very good at what they do and they have all the numbers. I have to support them as they have proven time and time again that they know what they are doing. I still think FATFlyer is a consultant here or something!!!



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25 Loisencroach : Both of you guys know all the insider stuff. I'm up here in Alaska, scraping up info second hand, thinking I'm so lucky because I got to see a fish o
26 Post contains links Tornado82 : Here's the only problem for Allegiant... and I surely hope they can overcome it here in the Lehigh Valley. After Southeast, and TMA, perception of the
27 A/c dxer : Let me say first I wish Allegiant good luck on their expansion plans. I'm just wondering if Allegiant is not overexpanding just a little bit to quick.
28 Tornado82 : I just can't feasibly see how much demand can be to SFB from ABE, when Hooters is already running to MCO. I said that when TMA went under a couple wee
29 FATFlyer : I honestly did not pay much attention to Southeast and TMA's operations. Correct me if I'm wrong but I understood they mainly just sold seats. One th
30 Tcttx : I don't recall the specific version, but in the 80s, AA flew IAD-LAX-IAD w/ MD80s on the red-eyes, so it's possible some long G4 flights aren't out of
31 N908AW : SYR.... BLV-SFB would also be nice.
32 FATFlyer : Looking at schedules I can see one advantage that Allegiant has. G4 will operate 4 days a week to start, Mon, Thurs, Fri and Sun. Hooters is flying t
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