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Eos / MAXjet: Why Not Fly LGW-JFK?  
User currently offlinePlanemannyc From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1008 posts, RR: 8
Posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2836 times:
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Currently, there are no LGW-JFK service (LGW-EWR, yes, but not LGW-JFK). Instead of STN, would it not have been better to have LGW-JFK service instead? I thought STN is more for LCC's? Having never flown through STN, I can't really say, but I had heard it is harder to get to than LHR or LGW? Or is STN closer to London's business district?

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Wasim / Planemannyc

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User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2818 times:

It probably would be a good idea, but there is a matter of Landing costs etc.

Thanks
Mike


User currently offlineWillyj From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 468 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2759 times:

Gatwick is 1/2 hour out of London from Victoria station. Victoria is convenient for Belgravia/Chelsea/West End areas, but Stanstead is connected to a station very near the Financial center, "the City". I think the Stanstead Express leaves from Liverpool St. Station, so it is actually more convenient for the bankers and lawyers EOS is trying to attract.

Although STN is geared towards LCCs, I have flown out of the airport several times, and I found it to be an easy airport to pass through. I believe EOS has a lounge for it's passengers, so the LCC aspect is sort of moot. Furthermore, perhaps EOS and Maxjet are trying to differentiate themselves from established carriers by flying out of an airport that no one else uses from the US...


User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2707 times:

If I am not mistaken, isn't JFK-LGW by non-Heathrow carriers Bermuda II-restricted, therefore no Delta on JFK-LGW?


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User currently offlineWillyj From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 468 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2569 times:

Quoting SHUPirate1 (Reply 3):
If I am not mistaken, isn't JFK-LGW by non-Heathrow carriers Bermuda II-restricted, therefore no Delta on JFK-LGW?

I think you are right. So, yet another reason why they chose STN!

In which country are EOS and Maxjet based?


User currently offlinePlanesailing From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 816 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2556 times:

Quoting Willyj (Reply 4):
In which country are EOS and Maxjet based?

US based airlines.


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21565 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2541 times:

Quoting Willyj (Reply 2):
Gatwick is 1/2 hour out of London from Victoria station. Victoria is convenient for Belgravia/Chelsea/West End areas, but Stanstead is connected to a station very near the Financial center, "the City". I think the Stanstead Express leaves from Liverpool St. Station, so it is actually more convenient for the bankers and lawyers EOS is trying to attract.

I may be way off on this, but I thought that the Thameslink runs from the heart of the financial district to LGW.

-Mir



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User currently offlineN770WD From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 126 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2518 times:

You're all right...

At least for MAXjet, there were several reasons to start at Stansted. The most important ones include Bermuda II's restrictions, available slots, available facilities and the cost of doing business at Gatwick. Stansted brings a unique catchment area, reasonable costs and excellent facilities (the MAXjet lounge is the former SAS lounge, overlooking the runway and other satellites).

The availability at STN of connecting flights to European cities and cargo capabilities also matter for the MAXjet business model, though maybe not for the Eos model.


User currently offlineCloudyapple From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2005, 2454 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2521 times:

FYI Gatwick is 97% full slotwise. It's impossible to obtain good slots at close to reasonable price.

Also congestion is an issue. Today's stansted has little congestion at non-LCC-peak times. It is ear-marked for expansion (first phase with new RAT/RET and taxiway extension to be built in 1/2 years). Gatwick on the other hand cannot expand for another 10 years.

Then there is competition issues. Gatwick is well served to the Greater New York area airports. Most premium traffic does not go thru there but Heathrow. There is nothing to fight over for there and no unserved premium market near by. Stansted is easily reached from Canary Wharf (huge expanding gold mine) which is too far from Heathrow and Gatwick unless by helicopters. There is also a technology circle around Cambridge. These are all potential customers they can steal from BA/VS/AA/UA/DL/NW/etc.

[Edited 2005-10-19 23:20:04]


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