Cambrian From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 617 posts, RR: 5 Posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1980 times:
A question for BA bods:
I have booked a holiday to the Turks and Caicos (PLS) in BA Club World in December.
The flight is on a 767 via Nassau. My travel agent is telling me that the aircraft still has the cradle club seat. Is this true, and what is the likelihood of a change in aircraft, going out on Dec 4th, and returning on Dec 18th?
AceFreighter From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 179 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1953 times:
All the BA LHR Longhaul 767-336's have been converted and now have the new flat beds in Club. The last one G-BNWN is at Gatwick being converted now with the MAN machine G-BNWH due to be done next I think.
Crosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2571 posts, RR: 59 Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1880 times:
The last LHR long-haul 767 G-BNWN should now be undergoing conversion, and once G-BNWH is complete by mid November all long-haul 767s will be in the new config. The remaining work through to next April will be conversion of short-haul to long-haul aircraft to cater for expansion.
BA 767 "Dusk" Info courtesy of the BA Aviation Website in chronological order;
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G-BNWO 'Union Flag', final service in old longhaul seating config (F8 J36 M134) was BA252/30Dec NAS-LHR. Ferried to LGW same day for interior work. Converted to 'Dusk' config (sleeperseats) F0 J24 W24 M141. Positioned back to LHR on 12Feb. Back in service as BA229/14Feb LHR-BWI. This was the first B767 to be upgraded.
Remaining longhaul 767 conversions are:
NWS, NWV, NWR, NWM, NWU, NWI, NWN, NWH
..to be upgraded in that order.
There are tentative plans to convert 4 shorthaul aircraft to longhaul (Dusk). Aircraft currently slated are NWD, NWY, NWW and NWC (in that order). This work will follow on after NWH refit. All B767 upgrade work is planned for completion by Apr06.
G-BNWT 'Union Flag', final service in old config was BA162/27Feb TLV-LHR. Ferried to LGW as BA9178E same day for 'Dusk' seat upgrade. Ferried LGW-LHR as BA9156E/01Apr following cabin refit to 'Dusk' (3 class) standard. Back in service as BA105/01Apr LHR-DXB.
G-BNWS 'Union Flag', final service in old config was BA162/30Mar TLV-LHR. Ferried to LGW as BA9150E same day for 'Dusk' seat upgrade. (3rd aircraft to be upgraded). Due back in service early May. 3-class 'Dusk' seat conversion
completed 06May. Ferried to LHR as BA9152E/07May. Back in service as BA165/09May LHR-TLV.
G-BNWV 'Union Flag' final service in old config was BA162/06May TLV-LHR. Ferried to LGW as BA9151E/07May for 'Dusk' seat upgrade. Due for completion 03Jun. 3-class 'Dusk' seat conversion completed 06Jun. Ferried LGW-LHR as BA9251E/07Jun. Back in service as BA089/07Jun LHR-NBO
G-BNWR 'Union Flag' final service in old config was BA046/21Jun DAR-LHR. Ferried to LGW as BA9158E/23Jun for 'Dusk' seat upgrade. Due for completion 20Jul. 3-class 'Dusk' seat conversion completed at LGW and ferried back to LHR as BA9150E 22Jul. Back in service as BA163/22Jul LHR-TLV.
G-BNWM 'Union Flag', final service in old config was BA046/22Jul DAR-LHR. Ferried to LGW as BA9151E/22Jul for 'Dusk' seat upgrade. Positioned back to LHR on completion as BA9172E/20Aug. Back in service as BA229/21Aug LHR-BWI.
G-BNWU 'Union Flag', final service in old config was BA162/20Aug TLV-LHR. Ferried to LGW as BA9171E/20Aug for 'Dusk' seat upgrade. Ferried to LGW-LHR as BA9181E 17Sep following 3 class 'Dusk' seat upgrade. Back in service as BA163/17Sep LHR-TLV.
G-BNWI 'Union Flag' final service in old config was BA162/17Sep TLV-LHR. Ferried to LGW as BA9182E/17Sep for 'Dusk' seat upgrade.
Cambrian From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 617 posts, RR: 5 Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1841 times:
ACEFreighter, thanks for confirming that. It is a great relief!
Crosswind, thanks for such detailed info.
I have never flown Club World before, only First. Is there a big difference?
Will this be the "new" Club World with the softer bed?
The alternative was to fly VS Upper to Miami and connect on from there. Whereas the UCS is probably more comfortable than CW, I figured that the catering will be better on BA (strikes permitting!). The catering and presentation on VS lets the product down very badly.
So I have decided to take the direct flight. Does anyone know how long the flight time is between NAS and PLS?
Fbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3687 posts, RR: 31 Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1783 times:
Quoting Cambrian (Reply 3): I have never flown Club World before, only First. Is there a big difference?
No burr walnut .... You'll notice the personal space is somewhat lacking in CW, although that depends if you use the centre or window seats in First. In CW upstairs on the 747 I love the fact you can put menu, headphones, music player and all that guff on the shelf which I miss at times.
I'm about 6ft and find the CW bed a tad narrow compared to First, but then I describe F as expansive. Get the right seat in CW and you'll be fine.
DavidT From Switzerland, joined Oct 2005, 475 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1758 times:
CW is okay upper deck - feels very secluded. Downstairs however does look a little crowded - I suppose this is what the 767 wil be like (are they going to squash 2-4-2 into a 767? Hardly fits in a 744! )
That said taking a stroll to the back really drives it home how much worse it could be. Any CW is very good - especially when you settle down in front of a movie with a nice meal (or lack of )
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Is this true, and what is the likelihood of a change in aircraft, going out on Dec 4th, and returning on Dec 18th?
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You'll notice the personal space is somewhat lacking in CW, although that depends if you use the centre or window seats in First. In CW upstairs on the 747 I love the fact you can put menu, headphones, music player and all that guff on the shelf which I miss at times. 
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