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GRU Ranked 84th Largest APT In The World!  
User currently offlinePPSMA From Brazil, joined Aug 2005, 157 posts, RR: 5
Posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5023 times:

This is huge!

The Airports Council International recently released the top 100 Airports list for 2004, and GRU ranked as the 84th largest airport in the world, in terms of passenger traffic.

Here´s the top five and their astounding numbers:

1) ATL - 83.606.583M
2) ORD - 75.533.822M
3) LHR - 67.344.054M
4) HND - 62.291.405 M
5) LAX - 60.688.609M

IN LATAM, only 3 airports were in the list:

1) MEX - 22.994.043M
2) GRU - 13.880.606M (was 84th in 2003, and remained 84th in 2004)
3) CGH - 13.726.961M (was 88th in 2003 and went up to 86th in 2004)  Cool

If anyone´s noticed, adding up traffic volume of both GRU and CGH would result in over 27M , thus placing Sao Paulo on top of MEX and ahead of SYD, ranking 32nd in the world´s list!!!  birthday 

That certainly says something about this country, huh?

A message to los hermanos Argentinos: hay que seguir luchando para llegar alli!  biggrin 

Cheers,

Domenico


Aviation is my thing!
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User currently offlineAdamWright From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5014 times:

Once again.. Atlanta Hartsfield dominates  Wink

User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8956 posts, RR: 40
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4987 times:

SAO is going up to 30K by years end. Write down what I'm saying!

Cheers  Smile



"If goods do not cross borders, soldiers will" - Frederic Bastiat
User currently offlineYULWinterSkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2177 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4943 times:

ATL? I know DL is quite big, and that ATL is by far their main hub, but still... I was convinced that LHR was ranking 1st... Maybe it's LON and its five (5) airfields which dominates as a city...

Do you have a web link for that list?



When I doubt... go running!
User currently offlineLan_Fanatic From Chile, joined Sep 2001, 1071 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4928 times:

Quoting PPSMA (Thread starter):
A message to los hermanos Argentinos: hay que seguir luchando para llegar alli!

Well, if Argentina had 190 million inhabitants they would certainly be higher than Sao Paulo in that ranking.  box 


User currently offlineXA744 From Mexico, joined Mar 2004, 734 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4906 times:

... Once the new LCC´s that are mushrooming in Mexico establish an adequate marketbase and achieve some 70pc PLF, I would like to estimate a dramatic increase in pax numbers for MEX and other airports in the next five years.

With the introduction of T2 at MEX in 2006, the " Benito Juarez International " could easily be handling 30 to 33 million pax by the year 2010.

... It´s going to be the never ending MEX-SAO duel !

Regards



No matter how you fly...just never get your wings clipped !
User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4856 times:

Tks for the very informative post.

Quoting PPSMA (Thread starter):
IN LATAM, only 3 airports were in the list:

1) MEX - 22.994.043M
2) GRU - 13.880.606M (was 84th in 2003, and remained 84th in 2004)
3) CGH - 13.726.961M (was 88th in 2003 and went up to 86th in 2004)

Very impressive numbers for SAO (GRU+CGH) and MEX. BSB or GIG would certainly come in the list next year as 4th.

Rgs,


User currently offlineIntothinair From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 392 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4822 times:

Please, where's the source I can't find it on their website. I have been looking for this data for over a year, PLEASE, a source, thanks

Cheers, Konstantin G.


User currently offlinePPSMA From Brazil, joined Aug 2005, 157 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4777 times:

Hardiwv,

AMS is ranked 9th, with 42.541.180M passengers in 2004, and in Europe it´s only behind LHR, CDG (51.260.363M) and FRA (51.098.271M).

What´s really interesting is that the gap between CDG and FRA is not so big whereas between FRA (8th) and AMS (9th) there´s an almost 9M difference.

Quote:


Intothinair
Reply 7, posted Thu Oct 20 2005 10:10:55 UTC+2 and read 39 times:


Please, where's the source I can't find it on their website. I have been looking for this data for over a year, PLEASE, a source, thanks

I got this information from the September´s issue of Airliner World magazine. I also tried to find it on their webpage ( http://www.aci-europe.org/ - media room) but one must be a journalist  biting  to get a password to have access to the data. So, it´s now up to you to figure out what´s the easiest way to get it.

Cheers!

Domenico



Aviation is my thing!
User currently offlineBrasuca From Brazil, joined Mar 2004, 717 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4757 times:

Quoting PPSMA (Thread starter):
A message to los hermanos Argentinos

It was not a kind comment!   

Quoting PPSMA (Reply 8):
What´s really interesting is that the gap between CDG and FRA is not so big whereas between FRA (8th) and AMS (9th) there´s an almost 9M difference.

And, as far as O&D is concerned, CDG still ranks ahead of AMS and FRA.

Quoting XA744 (Reply 5):
With the introduction of T2 at MEX in 2006, the " Benito Juarez International " could easily be handling 30 to 33 million pax by the year 2010.

I can't wait to see tonight MEX airport documentary, at discovery!   

Quoting YULWinterSkies (Reply 3):
ATL? I know DL is quite big, and that ATL is by far their main hub, but still.

I just looked for Atlanta city's population and got astonished, in comparing with the airport movement.   

Population of the City of Atlanta:

[Edited 2005-10-20 13:07:55]


Varig, Varig, Varig
User currently offlineIntothinair From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 392 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4744 times:

Quoting PPSMA (Reply 8):
but one must be a journalist to get a password to have access to the data. So, it´s now up to you to figure out what´s the easiest way to get it.

I had a funny feeling that this would happen, could you be kind enough to tell me where Jakarta(CGK), DPS and KUL rank and how many million pax. they have, Unfortunately I can only view the top 30 largest airports on Earth.
Thanks in advance.

Cheers, Konstantin G


User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4717 times:

Quoting PPSMA (Reply 8):
AMS is ranked 9th, with 42.541.180M passengers in 2004, and in Europe it´s only behind LHR, CDG (51.260.363M) and FRA (51.098.271M).



Quoting PPSMA (Reply 8):
What´s really interesting is that the gap between CDG and FRA is not so big whereas between FRA (8th) and AMS (9th) there´s an almost 9M difference.

Correct, AMS is the 4th busiest airport in Europe, but in quality level AMS is the best airport in Europe (together with CPH and MUC) and much superior to its competitors CDG, FRA and LHR.

Rgs,


User currently offlineFlyingbabydoc From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4702 times:

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 11):
Correct, AMS is the 4th busiest airport in Europe, but in quality level AMS is the best airport in Europe (together with CPH and MUC) and much superior to its competitors CDG, FRA and LHR.

 thumbsup 

Couldn't agree more. What a difference to connect internationally from AMS compared to LHR or FRA. I like MUC though, with that cool design and neatness. I think MUC has a lot of potential to grow, it might surprise some in the future.

Cheers

Alex


User currently offlineKahala777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4683 times:

Quoting PPSMA (Thread starter):
If anyone´s noticed, adding up traffic volume of both GRU and CGH would result in over 27M , thus placing Sao Paulo on top of MEX and ahead of SYD, ranking 32nd in the world´s list!!!

That certainly says something about this country, huh?

Nice to see that we are now comparing what aiports are the best in terms of passenger movements.

What are the combined figures for:

Milan - Bergamo, Linate, Malpensa
London - Gatwick, Heathrow, City, Stansted
Paris - Orly, Charles de Gaulle
New York - Newark, La Guardia, JFK
Dallas - Ft. Worth, Love
Los Angeles - Ontario, Orange County, Burbank, LAX, Long Beach
Tokyo - Narita, Haneda

KAHALA777

[Edited 2005-10-20 14:22:45]

User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4672 times:

...and you should also combine EZE with AEP in Buenos Aires!

Rgs,


User currently offlineBSBIsland From Brazil, joined Jul 2005, 376 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4651 times:

Quoting Lan_Fanatic (Reply 4):
Well, if Argentina had 190 million inhabitants they would certainly be higher than Sao Paulo in that ranking.

I didn´t know São Paulo had 190 million inhabitants... There are other airports in Brazil as well, just check.  Smile


User currently offlineAirGabon From Switzerland, joined Dec 2003, 880 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4619 times:

In Airline Business Magazine, June 2005:

Paris = 74 893 000 passengers
CDG = 50 861 000 passengers
ORY = 24 032 000 passengers

FRA= 51 098 000 passengers


User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4606 times:

Quoting BSBIsland (Reply 15):
I didn´t know São Paulo had 190 million inhabitants... There are other airports in Brazil as well, just check.

 rotfl 

In fact, there is no correlation between population size and airport traffic. Look at the exemples of Singapore, Hong Kong, Dubai to name just a few; or even AMS and FRA. On the contrary, if we would follow your reasoning the biggest airport in the world would not be ATL but (in order) NRT, MEX, DEL and ICN!

Rgs,


User currently offlineAdamWright From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4577 times:

Just side note:

When you are comparing populations, don't go by the City Population. That only includes people residing INSIDE the City Limits. Its better to take a look at the population of the Metro Area. That includes all the suburbs and piggyback cities that grow off of the major city.

Atlanta's City Population is 430,000 People
Atlatna's Metro Population is roughly 4,247,981 People.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Metropolitan_Area

-Adam


User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8956 posts, RR: 40
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4571 times:

Quoting Brasuca (Reply 9):
Quoting YULWinterSkies (Reply 3):
ATL? I know DL is quite big, and that ATL is by far their main hub, but still.

I just looked for Atlanta city's population and got astonished, in comparing with the airport movement.

Population of the City of Atlanta:

Well, it's more than that considering the whole Metro area. But in anyways, ATL's number is due to connections, certainly not entirely to O&D.

Cheers



"If goods do not cross borders, soldiers will" - Frederic Bastiat
User currently offlinePzurita1 From Greenland, joined Sep 2002, 1392 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4553 times:

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 6):
BSB or GIG would certainly come in the list next year as 4th.

Don't be so sure. SJU (11m) and CUN (10m) handled more traffic than BSB (9.9m) or GIG (6.5) in 2004 and there is no reason to think that CUN will stop growing. There is a huge gap between GIG and BSB, even BOG (7.6) is currently larger than GIG. Despite the tremendous growth that GIG could see during 2005, I do not expect it to overcome SJU or CUN, may be only BOG.

So, Hardiwv,my recommendation as always, do not think that the world reduces to Brazil.  Wink



Next flight: IAH-DBX-MRU-ANT
User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4543 times:

Quoting Pzurita1 (Reply 20):
There is a huge gap between GIG and BSB

GIG is expected to end 2005 bigger than BSB, with about 12mil - this because of effects ref. relocation of flights SDU-GIG. SDU and GIG are the two Rio de Janeiro airports.

Would you rank SJU in the LatAm list or US lis? As for CUN, you are correct, CUN, GIG and BSB will end 2005 with similar numbers, and CUN doesnt stop growing!

Rgs,


User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4534 times:

Brazil's top 10 airports, 2005 data (JAN-JUL/05)

CGH: 11.1 mil
GRU: 10.4 mil
BSB: 6.2 mil
GIG: 5.6 mil
SSA: 2.9 mil
REC: 2.3 mil
SDU: 2.3 mil
POA: 2.2 mil
CWB: 2.2 mil
FOR: 1.8 mil

GIG is only expected to overcome BSB in 2006.

Rgs,


User currently offlineXA744 From Mexico, joined Mar 2004, 734 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4511 times:

... MEX and TLC will have to be considered fron now on, the two key players in traffic handling for the huge Mexico City metro area...

it is going to be something like CGH and GRU... We are now playing it the samba way !...

 yes 

Regards



No matter how you fly...just never get your wings clipped !
User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11429 posts, RR: 58
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4483 times:
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Quoting XA744 (Reply 23):
... MEX and TLC will have to be considered fron now on, the two key players in traffic handling for the huge Mexico City metro area...

it is going to be something like CGH and GRU... We are now playing it the samba way !...


XA744, i remember that Guadalajara keeps very strong numbers also, could you ou some of our Mexican friends give us a list of top 5 or 10 airports in Mexico please....?

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 22):
GIG is only expected to overcome BSB in 2006.

Right. But if you combine GIG+SDU, will produce a 13 million pax in 2005, expected to grow to 16 million on 2006. Infraero start to "bargain" with Tam, Gol and Varig: new slots for CGH need to transfer flights to GIG or CNF. That's one of the reason Gol and Tam will begin more than 20 new services from GIG.

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 22):
Brazil's top 10 airports, 2005 data (JAN-JUL/05)

CGH: 11.1 mil
GRU: 10.4 mil

With more 3.6 million on august, SAO airports are expected to get 30 million by this week.
Footnote: Brazilian airlines nowadays do not show a huge point-to-point service, Sao Paulo become the top hub just because of this (there are no services North-South, Norheast-South and only 3 BSB-south flights). SAO keeps at least 7.5 million pax as connections (South-SAO, SAO-Northeast).
Without strong competitors with different operational patterns, we keep sending millions to two airports with some restrictions (both keeps only one operational runway, are overcrowded on several days of the week, and do not keep much perspective of improvements as only GRU could receive a new terminal and short runway). Just to complete, SAO system capacity is declared as 32 million with GRU T3! The number in 2005 will be probably 37 million !

Rgds,
Felipe



New York + Rio de Janeiro = One of the best combinations !
25 Post contains images LUV4JFK : Well, I know combined all 3 airports was over 90 million passengers. LUV4JFK
26 Post contains images Pzurita1 : Hardi, Right. Normally I would place it in US list. But now I deliverately included it in the LatAm ranking just to annoy you a little. XA744, I do no
27 Hardiwv : What about all London area airports combined (LHR, LGW, Stansted and LCY)? I assume this would become the biggest metro area air traffic movement in
28 VV701 : It does or certainly used to but for International Passengers (including passengers to and from other EU member countries). Only roughly? It does see
29 Post contains images PPSMA : Brasuca, Chill out, amigão! I was just teasing our friends! However that's no lie: not EZE nor AEP are in the list and that means that up to now the
30 Post contains images Abrelosojos : = Hardi ... ignore Pzurita's comments. He is slightly anti-Brazil/India/China/Russia (the BRICs) and still fuming that Mexico is not considered to ha
31 Post contains images PPSMA : Hey Pzurita1, Are you REALLY from Bhutan? I love simm-flying out of PARO airport...it's a kick! Now how about Abrelosojos' comments? Is it true you su
32 Post contains images Pzurita1 : Abrelosojos, I thought we had a rational discussion last time about the paper by Goldman Sachs introducing the concept of BRICs, but I never included
33 Post contains images Hardiwv : Do I only think about Brazil? What's the problem with the BRICS? Maybe you are from Egypt and you are hurt because your country is left out? Tks for
34 LipeGIG : THanks! I think GDL would be bigger, seems that MEX is also the big hub as SAO airports. Felipe
35 Abrelosojos : = Yes, you were very civil about our BRIC discussion and I dont think you have racist diseases ... HOWEVER, I do think you are anti-BRIC ... and I am
36 Post contains links Hardiwv : Going back to the topic, i.e. GRU. GRU handles daily about 44 different aircraft types, e.g. Airbus, Boeing, Fokker, MD-11, ATR-42, Iliushin, and oper
37 LipeGIG : Hardi, GRU will be hardly hitted by the upgrade on BRA operation (i.e. from charter to regular). They obtain (i don't know how!) slots at CGH and ann
38 TR763 : What airline operates russian aircraft to GRU? I know SU used to, but it has some time they've dropped this route. Not to count the general aviation
39 PPVRA : Cubana is the only one I know of that still does. Consider every 200/300/400/500/600/700/800 out there (Boeing and Airbus), plus Embraer (110 & 120),
40 Brasuca : And Cubana doesn't fly to Brazil anymore. I think he didn't mean Russian aircraft are regular there, but they do fly sometimes non-scheduled flights.
41 PPVRA : Forgot about that... Don't think the F100 has the range for that. They probably lease a B737/B757 from someone to do it. edit: unless they make a fue
42 Post contains links and images Brasuca : Without cargo, only tourists, I think it's ok for the F100. CVC works with TAM only. So I think it's very unlikely they'd lease Boeings anywhere else
43 PPSMA : CVC does not use TAM to HAV, but COPA's regular schedule! Domenico
44 Hardiwv : GRU operates 400 landings/take-offs....if BRA drops GRU (max 25 flights) it wont affect the airport. On the contrary, BRA handles low-yielding pax an
45 Lan_Fanatic : Please don't fool yourself. You KNOW that Sao Paulo is NOT Singapore, Hong Kong or Dubai, and is not even close to them, as no south american city is
46 Hardiwv : And Sao Paulo is not Lagos, Seoul, Mexico City and New Dheli! The point is that Argentina has NOT a population of 190 million...so please STOP DREAMI
47 Hardiwv : Btw, as said above, Brazil has not only one airport, GRU. Here are the top 10 airports in Brazil, 2005 (Jan-Jul)... Brazil's top 10 airports, 2005 dat
48 N1120A : LHR is the number one airport in the world for international traffic. It also gets far more of its passenger numbers from O&D that ATL does The Los A
49 Post contains images Hardiwv : Indeed, I forgot Luton. Here is the metro area traffic movement provided by our Mexican friend Pzuira1: 1. London: 117M (LHR, LGW, STN, LTN, LCY) 2.
50 Brasuca : Lan_Fanatic, Dear Mr. Mad, why do you happen to be so primitive? Problems at home? Don't fool yourself! So do you think population is inflexibly relat
51 Lan_Fanatic : Actually, it's time to wake up. Then there is ABSOLUTELY NO POINT in comparing SAO and BUE's traffic as PPSMA tried to do. And about Chile becoming a
52 Hardiwv : We all know that.....so STOP DREAMING! We know you envy Brazil... LanFanatic is known here for creating trouble and having problems with all other So
53 Hardiwv : Correct. Rgs,
54 LipeGIG : Sorry Lan_Fanatic, what kind of "deliriums" you're talking about.... It's a kind of delirium to inform all others what really happen in Brazil... Onl
55 Abrelosojos : Lanfanatic: Where have you been over the past 15 years? Argentina has been in constant decline - poverty rates in Argentina are over 50% - and the cou
56 BSBIsland : For a long time I´ve noticed your comments, and if it´s not inferiority complex, just ignore the "nonsense" posts made by some Brazilians, like I u
57 Post contains images Brasuca : haha I like your sense of humour (and other things too). This time, I really must break the A.net rule which says "not post only for posting", becaus
58 Post contains links and images TR763 : Lipe, I sometimes thank God we have someone sane in this forum like you! I can´t believe what I just read in this thread! Back to the topic, I know
59 Post contains images Brasuca : I don't think so. Infraero is pushing government to create as soon as possible the rail link between CPQ, GRU and CGH, as they aim to transfer all GR
60 Post contains images PPSMA : Estimado Lan_Fanatic, Your comments, besides being TOTALLY uncalled for, are also of a high level of stupidity. When I made that initial comment I did
61 Marambio : Good evening gentlemen, I cannot believe my eyes. It is astonishing to see how a thread about Sao Paulo's airport turned out into a nationalistic figh
62 PPSMA : I read your report and it was great, although some of the photos were a bee blurred! Now, straight to the point: I have mentioned here before that I
63 LipeGIG : Infraero probably will announce GRU T3 on 2006. The main objective will be transfer from CGH to GRU about 8 million pax. T3 will be probably 100% dom
64 Abrelosojos : = Argentina has defaulted and restructured its debt a zillion times - everytime it holds IMF/Bank hostage, it undermines the credibility of the inter
65 Post contains images TR763 : PPSMA, I really aprecciate your kindness, and with no doubt, whenever I feel I´m going to the US, I´ll contact you! I would really love to go to the
66 Post contains links and images Brasuca : Hi! Yes, I am sure! This is a long-term project. These are Infraero words: "A Infraero pretende que o Aeroporto de Viracopos se torne, dentro de algu
67 PPSMA : Dear Marambio, I must admit my original comment lead to misinterpretation: I was simply using Argentina as a comparison to my posting! I work for an
68 TR763 : Sincerely, if they try to put ALL int´l flights to CPQ, some airlines would drop São Paulo service and increase GIG, providing connections thru the
69 Post contains images PPVRA : I think it's BS. (not mad at you, just Infraero ) CPQ is an hour and half away from SP (considering my house near CGH, and that's in a good day). It'
70 PPVRA : TR, you're 100% right! Cheers
71 Pdpsol : What do any of these completely misguided comments have to do with either i) civil aviation or, ii) Guarulhos International Airport in Sao Paulo? The
72 Abrelosojos : = I will give you that they are off the topic. However, please do your background research on my rambling, incoherent, and ridiculus comments before
73 Hardiwv : You should send this to one person: LanFanatic. Anyway, as his title suggests, he is a "fanatic" and must not be taken seirous. So let us just neglec
74 Post contains images MD11junkie : Okay, time to stop the crap... Abrelosojos, have you ever taken a look at what you post? Let me remind you that Argentina suffered the worse economic
75 PPSMA : Gaston Dejame aclarear que yo quis hacer una broma (a joke) pues que no encontré ningun otro aeropuerto de Sud América en la encuesta. Pasa que eso
76 Post contains images Brasuca : Then, "those" airlines would serve exactly only the real demand of São Paulo. Now do you know what we from other points in Brazil feel, when flying
77 Post contains images Hardiwv : Nadson, Pdpsol is a good friend so lets spare him from this one (check the thread we were talking last week). I dont think so. 12 fingers for the 5th
78 767-300ER : Correction to a post made earilier. The state of Sao Paulo' s population is not 2/3 that of Argentina's. The population of the state of Sao Paulo is n
79 PPVRA : I can imagine, but the hour to an hour and a half is highway driving. It's a trip there, including tolls on the way (last time I went there, ~R$8.50
80 LipeGIG : Okay, let´s see some details - Sao Paulo Airport System need urgent improvement - GRU T3 takes three years to get ready - The Railway need to be anno
81 Post contains links Abrelosojos : = Just to check your facts. Please refer to http://www.fiscalstudy.com/2005-glob...-debt-restructuring-in-history.php for a concise study on Argentin
82 Post contains images MD11junkie : Really? Please. Check your sources. The famous "Blindaje" was 15bn dollars from the IMF and the rest (up to 40bn) from other credit organisms. That i
83 Hardiwv : This is an excellent interim solution: transform GIG in Brazil's major hub for connection between international and domestic flight, and GRU would fo
84 Abrelosojos : = This is like blaming the bartender for being drunk. Who took the damn money? -A.
85 Abrelosojos : Does anyone know what is the breakdown @ GRU between O&D and transfer? Cheers, A.
86 Hardiwv : Very difficult question - it depends on each airine. Normally with RG the majority of pax connect onwards, but with foreign airlines O&D percentage i
87 Post contains images MD11junkie : Argentina did. I never questioned that. But, there's risk rate and interest. IMF policies made the country's economic stagnation even worse. Do you k
88 Post contains links JFKLGANYC : Nice table, but some incorrect info for NYC area. "4. NYC: 81M (JFK, LGA, EWR)" 94 million, not 81 million. Kind of makes u question the whole table.
89 Abrelosojos : = Given I worked their AND quit in an earlier life, I think I am well aware. Argentina also defaulted on World Bank loans which are soft loans BELOW
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