"These airborne penthouses cost plenty. New widebodies, such as the Airbus A340 and the Boeing 777, list for well over $100 million. A customized interior adds $25 million to $30 million, . . . it's no surprise that only five or six such planes are sold each year. . . . "
"some businesspeople now use their aircraft as a base of operations on overseas business trips. Rather than going to a hotel or office after landing, they just stay onboard. . . . "
"Another motivation, it seems, is one-upmanship. "As soon as someone gets one of these [big planes], others want it," Doret says. So it's not surprising that some clients are already eyeing the biggest plane of all: the doubledecker Airbus A380, . . . "
Jet-lagged From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 867 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8933 times:
Gosh! What negative replies. For people with access to a few billion US$, this is like a typical middle class splurging on an oversized gas guzzling SUV. I would agree that the money could be better spent, to serve the world better . . . but that ain't gonna happen.
UAL747DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2385 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 8826 times:
I don't know why you people are complaining. If I had the money it I would be flying one of those around everywhere. I don't care if the money could be better spent on world peace or whatever you want to spend it on. I would just look down and say "I don't give a shit" as I fly over!
COERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8661 times:
Those are muy awsome, but if i had to fly the aircraft, I'd choose an Embraer Legacy, or a Gulfstream Private Jet. They, on my opinion, would be easier to fly than an A380/777. You could also land at smaller airports to avoid congestion.
PHLJJS From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 416 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 8584 times:
a friend of mine who works for customs and border patrol told me that the man who owns "the limited" clothing stores in the us has a private 747. he arrives through cmh frequently and almost always late at night. whle i love the 747, i think this is a bit extreme. and for the record i'm a middle class american who loves his big gas guzzling suv.
Bluejackets From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 280 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 8224 times:
Quoting PHLJJS (Reply 11): a friend of mine who works for customs and border patrol told me that the man who owns "the limited" clothing stores in the us has a private 747. he arrives through cmh frequently and almost always late at night.
Les Wexner, Limited Brands owner, has a private 737 he parks at CMH.
It's funny when I tell people I love planes and they think I'm weird.
PA110 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1978 posts, RR: 24
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 7916 times:
Quoting Boeingfanyyz (Reply 6): If you oppose wealthy people tricking out interiors of heavies, why don't you oppose AF1? Marine 1?
Personally, I think if you can afford it, go for it. It's simply more money in the pockets of the aircraft manufacturers.
However I would venture a guess that the answer to your question would be: Because AF1 and Marine 1 are official transport aircraft of the United States Government, not some wealthy individual. Presidents come and go. They don't get to keep AF1 when they leave office.
DL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11445 posts, RR: 80
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 7269 times:
Quoting Jet-lagged (Reply 4): I would agree that the money could be better spent, to serve the world better . . . but that ain't gonna happen.
well, let's see....
the owner has to buy a large durable good from a corporation that employed thousands to build this item.... = good paying jobs in manufacturing
the owner must employ at least three full time pilots, a half dozen flight attendants and another half dozen technicians/handlers (perhaps through contract services)... 12 to 15 people with fulltime employment due to this aircraft
the owner will keep this airplane at some airfield and will probably have a hangar for the airplane (Paul Allen has one for his two 757's). Maintenance and manning for the hangar, plus the security necessary for the facility employs another 5 to 10 people on a longterm with more for the shortterm when they build or modify the hangar.
the wasteful venture will use up consumables for it's flights at an impressive rate. fuel vendors, catering outfits, tire manufacturers, and other support services.
None of this counts the businesses that are patronized by the people that directly and indirectly work on the airplane such as supermarkets, car dealerships, schools, etc.
An airplane like this is perhaps an exercise in vanity, but it does alot of good for the economy....a good deal more than simply taking that money and directly redistributing the cash. This is an ongoing proposition and proof that aviation is good for the economy.
A342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4671 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 7123 times:
In a German aerospace magazine I read an article about a company designing VIP interiors. They said they already got a request for a A380VIP, but the customer wants to see how it performs as he wants to fly from the Gulf area to HNL nonstop. I´m sure it´ll happen.
But for myself, I´d prefer an Il-62. Enough space, good range, stunning field performance, 4 engines and a classic aircraft. What could you want more.
FlyMeToTheMoon From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 242 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 6480 times:
As long as the owners made the money legally (not steal it like some owners), paid the taxes no reason why people should not have private planes of any size. Think of it this way - how may of us - given the resources - would pass the opportunity of buying and operating a private 707/320/340/380? Or even better a fighet jet like Mr. Ellison (of the Oracle fame). Most people conspicuosly consume - respecting the proportions who needs a Maybach limo when a Kia woudl do? Same concepts applies in planes.
Fly me to the moon... but not through LHR!
: I would want a BBj or BBJII as well...perfect for North America and across the ponds...however I would need to charter a private 757 (like N801DM) if
: To the people who think it's a waste: It's their money to spend how they see fit. I don't see people telling you that the way you spend your money is
: If i was rich enough I'd buy one and live in it in a second.....
: My dad, who flys on private jets often, told me that there was a 747 parked at Akron Canton that belongs to a TV evangelist. His name slips me. I thin
: There where rumours during the paris airshow that someone had bought a private 380. DXB-HNL is 13730 km. That wouldn't be hard for a private 380.
: I oppose it for anything within the range of the AF's 757's. There's no need for any intra-US flights to be on a 747, and don't go giving me the crap
: Sometimes the economics are better than you might imagine. For instance flying something like a 763ER with staff aboard can work out much more effecti
: I know and I agree. Don´t know why that should be an issue.
: His name was Rex Hummbard and they don't do the story because he died more than a few years ago. BTW his ministry failed about the time cable tv hit
: I think the 747 belongs to someone else. I know of the Rex guy and his tower. I think the tower is a buffet now. My dad says the 747 was seen parked
: Where is this at? Is it at SEA or BFI, or is it somewhere else? AMEN!!
: You're right. I just talked to a friend of mine who works at CAK and the plane belongs to Earnest Angley. According to my friend it's a big white 747
: They're complaining because you'd first have to sell your soul to make that kind of money and you'd then have to ignore your conscience to spend it s
: Don't worry, the people who will make sure you never get that chance are doing it to you.....right now. The "wealthy Middle Eastern client who wants