Timz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6971 posts, RR: 6 Posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4405 times:
On 21 October at 1741 EDT I saw a CO 737-500 over Summit NJ, 9.5 nm out on the approach course to EWR runway 11. http://www4.passur.com shows it as a flight from Boston that used the usual arrival route to the Sparta VOR, descending to 7000 ft out there. At the time the rest of EWR's arrivals were using runway 4R.
Question is, would CO have requested runway 11 or was it ATC's idea? Seems like a sensible thing to do if arrivals for 4R are lined up, but then you'd think we'd be seeing CO jets landing rwy 11 all the time, which we don't-- they're just occasional. Does the Port Authority have some agreement with the towns under the approach to limit landings on 11?
KBUF737 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 779 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4379 times:
11 Is quite short isn't it? I dont think heavies could come in on that runway unless it was quite a windy day. My guess also would be most of those townships on the 11 approach are chuck full of NIMBYs who are not fond of the noise.
Coa764 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 328 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4319 times:
11/29 is used all the time depending on the winds as the overflow to EWR.. When TEB is on a northeast flow then that impacts N90's ability to utilize 11/29 also if the winds are up and down 22/04 then that means a direct crosswind to 11/29. As far as usage N90 usually tries to use 29 vs. 11 due to workload issues but I have seen everything from and RJ to a 777 land on it. .
Please oh please Mr Moderator Nazi, dont delete my thread.
IslipWN From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4302 times:
One time I saw a FedEx 727 fly over head and than do an extremely sharp turn. I seriously thought it was going to crash but than I realized that it was using runway 11/29. And sure enough I was right...as I drove by I saw it taxiing away.
Lemurs From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1439 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4050 times:
Quoting KBUF737 (Reply 1): 11 Is quite short isn't it? I dont think heavies could come in on that runway unless it was quite a windy day. My guess also would be most of those townships on the 11 approach are chuck full of NIMBYs who are not fond of the noise.
I dunno if that has anything to do with it, but you're right about the NIMBY's. The approach for 11 flies over 50 miles of the highest per-capita income towns in the USA. Remember they wanted to make the Great Swamp another airport back in the 70's I think, and there was so much money thrown at politicians to keep it from happening it almost created a new sub-economy in NJ.
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