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Santa Barbara's 767 To Start Service Nov. 1st  
User currently online797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1891 posts, RR: 27
Posted (8 years 9 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 7084 times:

Hey guys,

Today I went to Santa Barbara's site and the first thing I saw was:
"Nueva Flota Santa Barbara Airlines, Boeing 767" (Santa Barbara's New Fleet Boeing 767)
http://www.santabarbaraairlines.com/

We all knew this was coming, but didn't know when.

The made it official that beginning Nov. 1st their CCS-MAD route will be served four times a week, and their CCS-TFN route will be serviced weekly with a Boeing 767. Also, beginning December, they will fly 6 days a week to MAD and one to TFN.

I believe these are very good news for us Venezuelans. This will be the first Venezuelan airline with "quite new" equipments since VIASA.

I'll try to go down to CCS to try to spot the aircraft and get some shots!
Hopefully, they'll have it already nicely-painted!

Saludos desde Caracas!


Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
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User currently offlineRICARIZA From Colombia, joined Apr 2005, 2382 posts, RR: 26
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 7051 times:

Quoting 797 (Thread starter):
I believe these are very good news for us Venezuelans. This will be the first Venezuelan airline with "quite new" equipments since VIASA.

Congrats bud.. I like Santa Barbara but the issue with the DC-10s was scary, so this is definitely good news...



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9708 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 7020 times:

Interesting news. Where does Santa Barbara Airlines get their 767? Will it be a 762 or 763? I would assume the 763...?

A388


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9708 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 7011 times:

Oww I see it now, it will be a 763, nice Big grin

Anyway, that doesn't answer my first question, where is this 763 coming from? Are there a lot of 767s available on the second hand market?

Saludos,

A388


User currently offlineYV136C From Venezuela, joined Mar 2003, 198 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6998 times:

Isn't S3 using that 742 they were going to lease for a few weeks until the 763 was ready? Are they ETOPS certified already?.....that was quick!
Also, I have seen on flight tracker the IB is flying a A346 down to CCS now? Are the loads that high? Can anybody get a shot of that bird there?

Luis
YV136C



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User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2376 posts, RR: 28
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6911 times:

I am sure it is a wet-lease from Euroatlantic or similar.


Swiss aviation news junkie living all over the place
User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2570 posts, RR: 31
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6836 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 3):
Anyway, that doesn't answer my first question, where is this 763 coming from? Are there a lot of 767s available on the second hand market?

Not that many... but Santa Barbara managed to secure at least 2 763ER from Pegasus Aviation. Pegasus is the lessor of Santa Barbara's DC10s.

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis


User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6829 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 3):
Are there a lot of 767s available on the second hand market?

Not so much, right now the 767, particularly 763 used market is very tight, lots of "want" and not much "have."


User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (8 years 9 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6806 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 6):
Not that many... but Santa Barbara managed to secure at least 2 763ER from Pegasus Aviation. Pegasus is the lessor of Santa Barbara's DC10s.

You mean they get two ??? What for ?
According to what they say on their website they want to operate 7 weekly services to Spain. They used to have 2 DC10 for those flights, but they were not very reliable, so it was justified to have two.
I doubt that they can afford to pay the leasing for 2 763 having one on the ground !
What I hope is that they open some new routes, e.g. to Italy.


User currently online797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1891 posts, RR: 27
Reply 9, posted (8 years 9 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6739 times:

Quoting Chiguire (Reply 8):
You mean they get two ??? What for ?



Quoting Chiguire (Reply 8):
What I hope is that they open some new routes, e.g. to Italy.

Yup, you are right...

Supposedly, S3 wants to fly to Portugal and Italy to compete against TAP and Alitalia. They'll use their first 767 to go to MAD and TFN and probably their second will do these new routes...

I really hope to see a nice livery on these first Venezuelan 767s!

Quoting YV136C (Reply 4):
I have seen on flight tracker the IB is flying a A346 down to CCS now? Are

Are you serious!!!
I wanna see it!
Actually, I saw they used a couple of times this month these A346s to go to Lima. Probably this is high season for South America...

Saludos!



Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
User currently onlineVenezuela747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1427 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (8 years 9 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6704 times:

Quoting 797 (Reply 9):
Quoting YV136C (Reply 4):
I have seen on flight tracker the IB is flying a A346 down to CCS now? Are

Are you serious!!!
I wanna see it!
Actually, I saw they used a couple of times this month these A346s to go to Lima. Probably this is high season for South America...

Saludos!

I started a topic back in like July or so of IB 346 coming into CCS every week or so (Fridays) from July to late October or so....check amadeus.net



ROLL TIDE!!!
User currently onlineVenezuela747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1427 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (8 years 9 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6696 times:

It took me like 5 seconds to find it ...here it is IB Bringing The 346 Into CCS (by Venezuela747 Jul 4 2005 in Civil Aviation)


ROLL TIDE!!!
User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2570 posts, RR: 31
Reply 12, posted (8 years 9 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6695 times:

Quoting Chiguire (Reply 8):
You mean they get two ??? What for ?
According to what they say on their website they want to operate 7 weekly services to Spain. They used to have 2 DC10 for those flights, but they were not very reliable, so it was justified to have two.
I doubt that they can afford to pay the leasing for 2 763 having one on the ground !
What I hope is that they open some new routes, e.g. to Italy.

I might be wrong. Is that I've heard some TV ads saying: Fly Santa Barbara to Spain. We are flying daily to Spain with our fleet of "new generation" Boeings 767-300 ER. They say fleet and Boeing in plural. You also have to consider that the plane has to go a weekly maintenance check, I think it's impossible to fly daily transatlantic with a single 763, unless you don't perform maintenance on it.
Another possibility is that the 763 is wet leased and they might use the 2nd one to increase capacity to MIA and send the 752 to fly MAR-MIA. Who knows...
Well, I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens in CCS this week.

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis


User currently offlineUSADreamliner From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 9 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 6681 times:

Good news!
do you know if they have plans to fly to Argentina or Chile (maybe seasonal)?


User currently onlineVenezuela747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1427 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (8 years 9 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6613 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 12):
I think it's impossible to fly daily transatlantic with a single 763, unless you don't perform maintenance on it.

It's Santa Barbara......we all know Maintenance is optional

Could be the 763 is for another European route, LIS or MXP



ROLL TIDE!!!
User currently offlineDirkou From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 571 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 9 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6594 times:

Who is going to operate these flights? Euro Atlantic Airways?

User currently online797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1891 posts, RR: 27
Reply 16, posted (8 years 9 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6568 times:

Quoting Dirkou (Reply 15):
Who is going to operate these flights? Euro Atlantic Airways?

Not Sure, but I think they'll use S3's flight attendants on these flights.

Can't wait to see these A/Cs



Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (8 years 9 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6543 times:

Quoting 797 (Reply 16):
Can't wait to see these A/Cs

So do I !


User currently offlineMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 869 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (8 years 9 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 6490 times:

I am so glad that Santa Barbara has finally decided to set its own record straight. They have a lot of potential and this 767 can only help. I am glad that Santa Barbara is demonstrating that "en Venezuela, si se puede!"


"Like all great travelers, I have seen more than I remember, and remember more than I have seen."
User currently online797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1891 posts, RR: 27
Reply 19, posted (8 years 9 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 6459 times:

Santa Barbara just announced through their site their future service to Portugal
http://www.santabarbaraairlines.com/Noticias.asp

In this article they make official their daily services to MAD and weekly service to TFN. They just published their schedule:

    Starting Nov. 1st until Nov. 30th, 4 flights x week CCS-MAD-CCS
  • CCS-MAD: Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays and Saturdays.
  • MAD-CCS: Wednesdays, Thursdays and Sundays.

    From Dec. 1st until Jan. 30th 2006, 6 flights x week.
  • CCS-MAD-CCS: Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays.

    All year long CCS-TFN-CCS: Thursdays


Well, so the waited-new already popped... Their new route will be Portugal... Most likely to be LIS or Porto. Pretty good for them!

Now they are proudly announcing on their site things like "our modern fleet of B757-200, B767-300ER and ATR-42"

I'm very happy for them!

Saludos!



Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
User currently offlineSOUTHAMERICA From Colombia, joined Dec 2003, 2497 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (8 years 9 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 6433 times:

Very nice. A little unfortunate that these changes were sort of forced, but somehow they had to happen. Now it would be even better if they started to add more medium-haul aircraft in order to solidify a stronger network.  crossfingers 


SOUTHAMERICA


User currently offlineCelticmanx From Netherlands, joined Mar 2001, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 9 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6382 times:

Flights will start with a B767-300ER wet leased from Icelandair.
FI only have one, it is TF-FIB I saw it some time ago in BRU and I believe it is mainly used in their U.S. routes and charter routes.

Good luck S3!!!

Manx


User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 16
Reply 22, posted (8 years 9 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6347 times:

Quoting Celticmanx (Reply 21):
Flights will start with a B767-300ER wet leased from Icelandair.

Nice. I just made a little research for TF-FIB and found out that it was delivered Sep 1991 to SAS. So far not a really new bird. But better than the DC10.
I am sure the aircraft is in very nice condition since Icelandair is know to keep their aircraft very well. I hope they paint it in S3 colors.
So this is the first one with obviously a second one to come for the increase of service for X-mas and Portugal.

Quoting SOUTHAMERICA (Reply 20):
Now it would be even better if they started to add more medium-haul aircraft in order to solidify a stronger network.

Definitely. This is something Santa Barbara needs. And if they start such routes with nice and "new" 737 and/or E-jets I am sure it will be a success. People like flying S3 and they would prefer them also e.g. to BOG.
And: They finally need to replace the old 727 on the Ecuador services.


User currently offlineLamedianaranja From Venezuela, joined Nov 2004, 1246 posts, RR: 21
Reply 23, posted (8 years 9 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 6308 times:

Quoting Celticmanx (Reply 21):
Flights will start with a B767-300ER wet leased from Icelandair

Didn't someone see a FI B757 at MIQ? And now S3 gets a FI B767, there must be a connection?



I wish that all skies were orange and blue!!
User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 16
Reply 24, posted (8 years 9 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 6302 times:

Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 23):
Didn't someone see a FI B757 at MIQ? And now S3 gets a FI B767, there must be a connection?

Maybe Luis had too much Polar and it was a 767 he saw ?  drunk 
But maybe they also get a 757 to operate some other routes ? UIO ?


I just checked the reservation system and it still shows the DC10 operating the S3 routes. This is a bit strange. I can understand that they did not show the 747 "operated by A4" but the 763 is a long term solution...or not ?


25 Post contains images 797 : That's what it seems... Following S3 CEO's declarations, these aircraft will replace for good the older DC-10s to upgrade their transatlantic routes.
26 Post contains images Avianca : intresting to hear regarding the 767. I think Santa Barbara should fill more easyer the 767 on the mad route than the bigger DC10. Sad is that they wi
27 797 : Well, at least they'll have a normal and serious aircraft with newer food cars, seats, configuration, technology, etc..... not the old and ridiculous
28 Celticmanx : They told me it is correct. They used them for flights from MIQ and MBO to Cuba and they are wet leased contracts for Cubana. Manx
29 SOUTHAMERICA : Right. BOG-CCS is, by far, the most active international market in the Andean region and it's a route that can fortunately support several carriers a
30 797 : Yes, you are right. After all, the only carrier that used to compete against AV on this routes was VH, but I wouldn't consider it a serious competito
31 SOUTHAMERICA : It depends. VH probably offers a pretty standard product on its CCS-BOG route, in fact, it's possible to find overall service provided by VH on-pair
32 Post contains images A388 : I also can't wait to see S3's first 763 flying. Too bad I won't be seeing the 763 in CUR. Heck, S3 doesn't even fly to CUR. I would have to be VERY lu
33 Chiguire : NEWS NEWS ! It is NOT a FI aircraft and it seems to be in CCS fully painted already ! Further news to follow !
34 Orion737 : The 763 is smaller than the DC10 in both passenger and capacity uplift. Im sorry to see the DC10s leave, I wouldnt have had any hesitation in flying o
35 Post contains images Lamedianaranja : Planning a weekend at the beach ?
36 Chiguire : Water in Germany is too cold !
37 Post contains links and images Chiguire : And here the additional information. Looks like the "new" Santa Barbara 763 is either: View Large View MediumPhoto © Marcio Gomes Rebello Ferreir
38 797 : My dad went yesterday to CCS to fly to Puerto Ordaz and he didn't see it. He knows quite a bit about airplanes, and he called me after his flight was
39 Post contains images A388 : Wow, I'm also very anxious in seeing the S3 763 Make lots of photos of her.... A388
40 Airportmanager : Any plans or chances to get a a 767 or 757 for the UIO route? Its already not so interesting to see the 727... and ALWASY the same one. Daily. Stefano
41 Chiguire : Well, looks like it's coming: sine today in the GDS: 763 by S3. the flight for tomorrow 1st Nov. shows: 1S31333 J4 C4 D4 A0 F4 Y0 B0 Q0 S0*MADCCS 1100
42 PRAirbus : "New" 767s???? There's no way S3 767s are brand-new..."new" for them but surely recycled, re-used but not "new". It's a positive trend but definitely
43 797 : So this means this A/C ain't taking off today! I was expecting to see some pics! haha! Let's check for further news. Hope to find something!
44 Chiguire : Well, I am not sure. The strange thing is that I didn't expect a MAD-CCS today, but the website of the airport shows an arrival at 15:40 ! But there
45 YV136C : According to flight tracker, S3 flight 1333 (a 763) is due at CCS at 15.59. Keep an eye out for it, even better, take pictures!! Luis YV136C
46 Chiguire : Where can you track it ?
47 Post contains links YV136C : Chiguire, qiubo? There are a few flight trackers out there, but to me the best is Flightview: http://www.flightview.com/TravelTools/default.asp Enjoy.
48 Chiguire : YV-136C, gracias ! So now it has landed.....who is going to be out there tomorrow to take the first pictures ?
49 Venezuela747 : So where is it? I am dying to see the first pics
50 Chiguire : So am I ! There is a flight CCS-MAD scheduled for today 18:15 arrival MAD 07:45.
51 797 : Haven't found nothing guys. I was about to go down to CCS but there was this huge storm today and I got affraid to do it. The way down to CCS is prett
52 Post contains images 797 : I FOUND SOMETHING!!!!! They say on their site that flights to MAD started today with: ... so far this is all we've got, BUT IT'S SOMETHING! Saludos! M
53 YV136C : 797, Mandate pa Maiquetia! Get S3's 763 and also get IB's A346....it'll make the ride worthwhile! I'll buy you a six pack of Polar when I fly to CCS!
54 Post contains links and images AlitaliaMD11 : I am going to Madrid in two weeks and I hope to catch the B767-300, it will of course be a sad change from the DC-10 but a new face is always welcome
55 Post contains links and images Luisde8cd : Saludos desde Caracas, Luis
56 797 : Man If it was for me I'd go right away! But University has my scheadule very tight. YoU know what, I might go on Friday, but I've a small problem...
57 797 : By the way, they just did a ver CHEAP thing on their site. Note at the top-left side of the page the aircraft taking-off. Look at it and analize it! T
58 YV136C : Enrique, where to spot? Good question, if you have a VERY good zoom lens I would say the Mirador up on where the toll booths are, although it's far. I
59 797 : Hey guys, It's almost sure I'm going down to CCS with another A.netter, BA747 tomorrow. I'm also trying to contact Luisde8cd, but haven't had an answe
60 Viasa : Are there some news (pictures?) of this plane?
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