797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1539 posts, RR: 28 Posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4498 times:
Hey guys,
Today I went to Santa Barbara's site and the first thing I saw was:
"Nueva Flota Santa Barbara Airlines, Boeing 767" (Santa Barbara's New Fleet Boeing 767) http://www.santabarbaraairlines.com/
We all knew this was coming, but didn't know when.
The made it official that beginning Nov. 1st their CCS-MAD route will be served four times a week, and their CCS-TFN route will be serviced weekly with a Boeing 767. Also, beginning December, they will fly 6 days a week to MAD and one to TFN.
I believe these are very good news for us Venezuelans. This will be the first Venezuelan airline with "quite new" equipments since VIASA.
I'll try to go down to CCS to try to spot the aircraft and get some shots!
Hopefully, they'll have it already nicely-painted!
Saludos desde Caracas!
There are two types of people in the world: Those who love Airplanes, and the rest of you poor bastards!
RICARIZA From Colombia, joined Apr 2005, 2192 posts, RR: 36 Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4465 times:
Quoting 797 (Thread starter): I believe these are very good news for us Venezuelans. This will be the first Venezuelan airline with "quite new" equipments since VIASA.
Congrats bud.. I like Santa Barbara but the issue with the DC-10s was scary, so this is definitely good news...
YV136C From Venezuela, joined Mar 2003, 198 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4412 times:
Isn't S3 using that 742 they were going to lease for a few weeks until the 763 was ready? Are they ETOPS certified already?.....that was quick!
Also, I have seen on flight tracker the IB is flying a A346 down to CCS now? Are the loads that high? Can anybody get a shot of that bird there?
Luisde8cd From Venezuela, joined Aug 2004, 2461 posts, RR: 50 Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4250 times:
Quoting A388 (Reply 3): Anyway, that doesn't answer my first question, where is this 763 coming from? Are there a lot of 767s available on the second hand market?
Not that many... but Santa Barbara managed to secure at least 2 763ER from Pegasus Aviation. Pegasus is the lessor of Santa Barbara's DC10s.
Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis
Viasa we miss you!. Good times will return after Chavez is gone!
Chiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2002 posts, RR: 22 Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4220 times:
Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 6): Not that many... but Santa Barbara managed to secure at least 2 763ER from Pegasus Aviation. Pegasus is the lessor of Santa Barbara's DC10s.
You mean they get two ??? What for ?
According to what they say on their website they want to operate 7 weekly services to Spain. They used to have 2 DC10 for those flights, but they were not very reliable, so it was justified to have two.
I doubt that they can afford to pay the leasing for 2 763 having one on the ground !
What I hope is that they open some new routes, e.g. to Italy.
797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1539 posts, RR: 28 Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4153 times:
Quoting Chiguire (Reply 8): You mean they get two ??? What for ?
Quoting Chiguire (Reply 8): What I hope is that they open some new routes, e.g. to Italy.
Yup, you are right...
Supposedly, S3 wants to fly to Portugal and Italy to compete against TAP and Alitalia. They'll use their first 767 to go to MAD and TFN and probably their second will do these new routes...
I really hope to see a nice livery on these first Venezuelan 767s!
Quoting YV136C (Reply 4): I have seen on flight tracker the IB is flying a A346 down to CCS now? Are
Are you serious!!!
I wanna see it!
Actually, I saw they used a couple of times this month these A346s to go to Lima. Probably this is high season for South America...
Saludos!
There are two types of people in the world: Those who love Airplanes, and the rest of you poor bastards!
Venezuela747 From United States, joined Jan 2004, 1367 posts, RR: 5 Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4118 times:
Quoting 797 (Reply 9): Quoting YV136C (Reply 4):
I have seen on flight tracker the IB is flying a A346 down to CCS now? Are
Are you serious!!!
I wanna see it!
Actually, I saw they used a couple of times this month these A346s to go to Lima. Probably this is high season for South America...
Saludos!
I started a topic back in like July or so of IB 346 coming into CCS every week or so (Fridays) from July to late October or so....check amadeus.net
Venezuela747 From United States, joined Jan 2004, 1367 posts, RR: 5 Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4110 times:
Luisde8cd From Venezuela, joined Aug 2004, 2461 posts, RR: 50 Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4109 times:
Quoting Chiguire (Reply 8): You mean they get two ??? What for ?
According to what they say on their website they want to operate 7 weekly services to Spain. They used to have 2 DC10 for those flights, but they were not very reliable, so it was justified to have two.
I doubt that they can afford to pay the leasing for 2 763 having one on the ground !
What I hope is that they open some new routes, e.g. to Italy.
I might be wrong. Is that I've heard some TV ads saying: Fly Santa Barbara to Spain. We are flying daily to Spain with our fleet of "new generation" Boeings 767-300 ER. They say fleet and Boeing in plural. You also have to consider that the plane has to go a weekly maintenance check, I think it's impossible to fly daily transatlantic with a single 763, unless you don't perform maintenance on it.
Another possibility is that the 763 is wet leased and they might use the 2nd one to increase capacity to MIA and send the 752 to fly MAR-MIA. Who knows...
Well, I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens in CCS this week.
Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis
Viasa we miss you!. Good times will return after Chavez is gone!
Venezuela747 From United States, joined Jan 2004, 1367 posts, RR: 5 Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4027 times:
Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 12): I think it's impossible to fly daily transatlantic with a single 763, unless you don't perform maintenance on it.
It's Santa Barbara......we all know Maintenance is optional
Could be the 763 is for another European route, LIS or MXP
MIA From United States, joined Feb 2004, 836 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3904 times:
I am so glad that Santa Barbara has finally decided to set its own record straight. They have a lot of potential and this 767 can only help. I am glad that Santa Barbara is demonstrating that "en Venezuela, si se puede!"
SOUTHAMERICA From Colombia, joined Dec 2003, 2475 posts, RR: 19 Reply 20, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3847 times:
Very nice. A little unfortunate that these changes were sort of forced, but somehow they had to happen. Now it would be even better if they started to add more medium-haul aircraft in order to solidify a stronger network.
Celticmanx From Netherlands, joined Mar 2001, 98 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3796 times:
Flights will start with a B767-300ER wet leased from Icelandair.
FI only have one, it is TF-FIB I saw it some time ago in BRU and I believe it is mainly used in their U.S. routes and charter routes.
Chiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2002 posts, RR: 22 Reply 22, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3761 times:
Quoting Celticmanx (Reply 21): Flights will start with a B767-300ER wet leased from Icelandair.
Nice. I just made a little research for TF-FIB and found out that it was delivered Sep 1991 to SAS. So far not a really new bird. But better than the DC10.
I am sure the aircraft is in very nice condition since Icelandair is know to keep their aircraft very well. I hope they paint it in S3 colors.
So this is the first one with obviously a second one to come for the increase of service for X-mas and Portugal.
Quoting SOUTHAMERICA (Reply 20): Now it would be even better if they started to add more medium-haul aircraft in order to solidify a stronger network.
Definitely. This is something Santa Barbara needs. And if they start such routes with nice and "new" 737 and/or E-jets I am sure it will be a success. People like flying S3 and they would prefer them also e.g. to BOG.
And: They finally need to replace the old 727 on the Ecuador services.
Chiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2002 posts, RR: 22 Reply 24, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3716 times:
Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 23): Didn't someone see a FI B757 at MIQ? And now S3 gets a FI B767, there must be a connection?
Maybe Luis had too much Polar and it was a 767 he saw ?
But maybe they also get a 757 to operate some other routes ? UIO ?
I just checked the reservation system and it still shows the DC10 operating the S3 routes. This is a bit strange. I can understand that they did not show the 747 "operated by A4" but the 763 is a long term solution...or not ?
797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1539 posts, RR: 28 Reply 25, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3669 times:
Quoting Chiguire (Reply 24): but the 763 is a long term solution...or not ?
That's what it seems...
Following S3 CEO's declarations, these aircraft will replace for good the older DC-10s to upgrade their transatlantic routes. So, as far as I know, they will have two 763s and plans to add other 752s to enhance their connections and a probable 772...
Quoting SOUTHAMERICA (Reply 20): Now it would be even better if they started to add more medium-haul aircraft in order to solidify a stronger network.
Yes, that's totally true. S3 must add some new aircraft for their short haul flights in order to get some more revenue. The 727 must be burning their money... with some E-jets or some new 737s, as Chiguire said, they are going to be awesome. They have a huge opportunity, let's hope they don't waste it!
This is the 767 we were talking about. I'm starting to get excited! If Santa Barbara is going to use this aircraft, it won't be so expensive to paint. They'll only have to change the tail color and erase the name in the fuselage.
This is TF-FIB. I searched on the data-base and I found out they have another one: TF-FIA.
Some of us A.netters might go down to CCS to see if the a/c is there this weekend. We think it might get here at least two days before its first flight, Nov. 1st.
Im excited!!!
Saludos!
There are two types of people in the world: Those who love Airplanes, and the rest of you poor bastards!
26 Avianca: intresting to hear regarding the 767. I think Santa Barbara should fill more easyer the 767 on the mad route than the bigger DC10. Sad is that they wi
27 797: Well, at least they'll have a normal and serious aircraft with newer food cars, seats, configuration, technology, etc..... not the old and ridiculous
28 Celticmanx: They told me it is correct. They used them for flights from MIQ and MBO to Cuba and they are wet leased contracts for Cubana. Manx
29 SOUTHAMERICA: Right. BOG-CCS is, by far, the most active international market in the Andean region and it's a route that can fortunately support several carriers a
30 797: Yes, you are right. After all, the only carrier that used to compete against AV on this routes was VH, but I wouldn't consider it a serious competito
31 SOUTHAMERICA: It depends. VH probably offers a pretty standard product on its CCS-BOG route, in fact, it's possible to find overall service provided by VH on-pair
32 A388: I also can't wait to see S3's first 763 flying. Too bad I won't be seeing the 763 in CUR. Heck, S3 doesn't even fly to CUR. I would have to be VERY lu
33 Chiguire: NEWS NEWS ! It is NOT a FI aircraft and it seems to be in CCS fully painted already ! Further news to follow !
34 Orion737: The 763 is smaller than the DC10 in both passenger and capacity uplift. Im sorry to see the DC10s leave, I wouldnt have had any hesitation in flying o
38 797: My dad went yesterday to CCS to fly to Puerto Ordaz and he didn't see it. He knows quite a bit about airplanes, and he called me after his flight was
39 A388: Wow, I'm also very anxious in seeing the S3 763 Make lots of photos of her.... A388
40 Airportmanager: Any plans or chances to get a a 767 or 757 for the UIO route? Its already not so interesting to see the 727... and ALWASY the same one. Daily. Stefano
41 Chiguire: Well, looks like it's coming: sine today in the GDS: 763 by S3. the flight for tomorrow 1st Nov. shows: 1S31333 J4 C4 D4 A0 F4 Y0 B0 Q0 S0*MADCCS 1100
42 PRAirbus: "New" 767s???? There's no way S3 767s are brand-new..."new" for them but surely recycled, re-used but not "new". It's a positive trend but definitely
43 797: So this means this A/C ain't taking off today! I was expecting to see some pics! haha! Let's check for further news. Hope to find something!
44 Chiguire: Well, I am not sure. The strange thing is that I didn't expect a MAD-CCS today, but the website of the airport shows an arrival at 15:40 ! But there
45 YV136C: According to flight tracker, S3 flight 1333 (a 763) is due at CCS at 15.59. Keep an eye out for it, even better, take pictures!! Luis YV136C
47 YV136C: Chiguire, qiubo? There are a few flight trackers out there, but to me the best is Flightview: http://www.flightview.com/TravelTools/default.asp Enjoy.
48 Chiguire: YV-136C, gracias ! So now it has landed.....who is going to be out there tomorrow to take the first pictures ?
49 Venezuela747: So where is it? I am dying to see the first pics
50 Chiguire: So am I ! There is a flight CCS-MAD scheduled for today 18:15 arrival MAD 07:45.
51 797: Haven't found nothing guys. I was about to go down to CCS but there was this huge storm today and I got affraid to do it. The way down to CCS is prett
52 797: I FOUND SOMETHING!!!!! They say on their site that flights to MAD started today with: ... so far this is all we've got, BUT IT'S SOMETHING! Saludos! M
53 YV136C: 797, Mandate pa Maiquetia! Get S3's 763 and also get IB's A346....it'll make the ride worthwhile! I'll buy you a six pack of Polar when I fly to CCS!
54 AlitaliaMD11: I am going to Madrid in two weeks and I hope to catch the B767-300, it will of course be a sad change from the DC-10 but a new face is always welcome
56 797: Man If it was for me I'd go right away! But University has my scheadule very tight. YoU know what, I might go on Friday, but I've a small problem...
57 797: By the way, they just did a ver CHEAP thing on their site. Note at the top-left side of the page the aircraft taking-off. Look at it and analize it! T
58 YV136C: Enrique, where to spot? Good question, if you have a VERY good zoom lens I would say the Mirador up on where the toll booths are, although it's far. I
59 797: Hey guys, It's almost sure I'm going down to CCS with another A.netter, BA747 tomorrow. I'm also trying to contact Luisde8cd, but haven't had an answe
60 Viasa: Are there some news (pictures?) of this plane?
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