Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
US Airways November Conversion Schedule  
User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4075 posts, RR: 8
Posted (9 years ago) and read 5220 times:

Out of 38 stations that were home to both US and HP, 13 have successfully transitioned to all-US. This leaves 25 remaining, and November will see nine more.
The schedule looks like:

Nov. 2 - LAX (US club to be reopened)
Nov. 9 - MKE
Nov. 10 - IND
Nov. 10 - MIA
Nov. 16 - DTW
Nov. 16 - RDU
Nov. 17 - CMH
Nov. 30 - ATL
Nov. 30 - DCA

29 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineSwadispatcher From United States of America, joined May 2004, 427 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5028 times:

Anyone know if this will free up any gates in LAX T1 now?


Maintain 2300 until Boiler, cleared for the VOR-A approach, report BATLE inbound..
User currently offlineJmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3294 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4997 times:

Quoting Swadispatcher (Reply 1):
Anyone know if this will free up any gates in LAX T1 now?

Yes. It frees up much-needed gates for HP to use that were previously used by US and vice versa. The problem is that the gates are not contiguous. Perhaps they could negotiate with WN to allow for better logistics.



.......
User currently offlineMidway7 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4970 times:

Does anyone know what is going to happen at ORD?

User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4416 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4885 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
FORUM MODERATOR

How about MSP?

--------------------------------------------------------------------


User currently offlineMidway737 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4832 times:

Well, at ORD, America West gates will join the exist US Airways gate therefore the ticket Counter which is obviously at Terminal 2 so that shouldn't be a problem.

User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4722 times:

At IND is there room in that US/UA concourse to add the (couple?) HP flights as well?? Seems like every time I'm through there (though admittedly I'm primarily on CO/NW through there... only UA/US when the stars are aligned against me so to speak) that all those gates are always full.

User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4517 times:

When will America West at JFK be known as US at JFK? THe signs gates etc?


There is something special about planes....
User currently offlineCBPhoto From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1567 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4488 times:

MSP should be interesting, because as far as I know, HP leases the gates from NWA, so unless they work out some sort of an agreement with the "new" US, US will have just one gate at MSP!!


ETOPS: Engines Turning or Passengers Swimming
User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25741 posts, RR: 50
Reply 9, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4473 times:

Quoting Jmc1975 (Reply 2):
Yes. It frees up much-needed gates for HP to use that were previously used by US and vice versa. The problem is that the gates are not contiguous. Perhaps they could negotiate with WN to allow for better logistics.

Yes will help with busier HP having access to former US Air gates which on their own have pretty poor utilization due to the carrier LAX schedule.
I think the only thing SWA would like to negotiate is a way to get HP/US to move out of T-1 completely. More realistically however, yes some gate swaps could indeed take place maybe possibly even netting SWA another gate or access to gates during certain periods of the day. As is HP's current gates were previously swapped with Southwest to allow SWA have complete reign of the Eastside of T-1.



From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineUSFlyer MSP From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2135 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4465 times:

At MSP, I heard that with the departure of TZ, US is in negotiations with the MAC to get E-4, hopefully moving in before Christmas. This would give US E-2 and E-4.

User currently offlineCBPhoto From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1567 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4451 times:

Quoting USFlyer MSP (Reply 10):

Ahh...Makes sense, thanks for the update!



ETOPS: Engines Turning or Passengers Swimming
User currently offlineInTheSky74 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 546 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4369 times:

In MCO, America West supposed to move and combine operations with US Airways, but it seems to have been put on hold.

The airport put back up the America West signs in Terminal A with Continental - which it took down last week.

Rob


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26601 posts, RR: 75
Reply 13, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4154 times:

Quoting Jmc1975 (Reply 2):
Yes. It frees up much-needed gates for HP to use that were previously used by US and vice versa. The problem is that the gates are not contiguous. Perhaps they could negotiate with WN to allow for better logistics.

Like Laxintl said, unless they are moving out completely, there is not really a way of doing this. As is, WN parks on opposite sides, so unless HP/US wants to shuffle down to the bottom of the west side of T1 and give the west side and the end of the terminal to WN, I don't see it happening. Additionally, US has the widebody gates at T1, which allows them to park a 767 doing a turn, so they may indeed want to remain mindful of that.

Quoting CBPhoto (Reply 8):
MSP should be interesting, because as far as I know, HP leases the gates from NWA, so unless they work out some sort of an agreement with the "new" US, US will have just one gate at MSP!!

While they may want to move next to each other, as it is, even though HP has taken over US, all obligations of the respective carriers (other than those disposed of by US under bankruptcy protection) carry over to the new one. That also means that all obligations of other carrier to them (NW's lease agreement with HP) also carry over



Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
User currently offlineCBPhoto From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1567 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3822 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
While they may want to move next to each other, as it is, even though HP has taken over US, all obligations of the respective carriers (other than those disposed of by US under bankruptcy protection) carry over to the new one. That also means that all obligations of other carrier to them (NW's lease agreement with HP) also carry over

N1120A...Thanks for the peice on info, I did not realize that.



ETOPS: Engines Turning or Passengers Swimming
User currently offlineDelta767 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 238 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3646 times:

Does this mean that these stations will no longer have flights to PHX and LAS? What does it mean all US? or does that mean simply that the HP station will be consolidated with US (ticket counter, gate, etc.)?

User currently offlineJmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3294 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3607 times:

Quoting Delta767 (Reply 15):
or does that mean simply that the HP station will be consolidated with US (ticket counter, gate, etc.)?

Yes.



.......
User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4416 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3473 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
FORUM MODERATOR

Quoting CBPhoto (Reply 8):
MSP should be interesting, because as far as I know, HP leases the gates from NWA, so unless they work out some sort of an agreement with the "new" US, US will have just one gate at MSP!!

I'm surprised NW would want to lease a gate to a competing airline..


User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 44
Reply 18, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3368 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
While they may want to move next to each other, as it is, even though HP has taken over US, all obligations of the respective carriers (other than those disposed of by US under bankruptcy protection) carry over to the new one. That also means that all obligations of other carrier to them (NW's lease agreement with HP) also carry over

While that's indeed a problem at a few airports where HP is a signatory carrier, it's not a problem at airports where HP subleases from another carrier or is handled by another carrier--those agreements are all very short-term. As you said, it's not an issue at all for US, as they were (and actually still are for another month) able to get out of airport leases through their bankruptcy.

Quoting Iowaman (Reply 17):
I'm surprised NW would want to lease a gate to a competing airline..

All airlines do it. US itself subleases gates and/or handles flights for a number of its competitors.



I'm the expert on here on two things, neither of which I care about much anymore.
User currently offlinePilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3323 times:

Quoting CBPhoto (Reply 8):
MSP should be interesting, because as far as I know, HP leases the gates from NWA, so unless they work out some sort of an agreement with the "new" US, US will have just one gate at MSP!!

From what I've heard, the HP gate is leased from the MAC.

Quoting USFlyerMSP (Reply 10):
At MSP, I heard that with the departure of TZ, US is in negotiations with the MAC to get E-4, hopefully moving in before Christmas. This would give US E-2 and E-4.

We know for sure that FL will be getting a 2nd gate at MSP. I haven't seen anything official from the MAC, but some news reports said it was the TZ gate.

pilottim747



Aviation Photographers & Enthusiasts--Coordinate your life.
User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days ago) and read 3146 times:

Will CO run the gate for the new US @ OKC, since they ran for HP @ OKC?

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26601 posts, RR: 75
Reply 21, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days ago) and read 3122 times:

Quoting Delta767 (Reply 15):
What does it mean all US? or does that mean simply that the HP station will be consolidated with US (ticket counter, gate, etc.)?

Well, it either means HP will be consolidated with US where US is stronger (BOS comes to mind) but that US will go where HP is in places like PHX and LAS

Quoting Iowaman (Reply 17):
I'm surprised NW would want to lease a gate to a competing airline..

Happens all the time

Quoting A330323X (Reply 18):
While that's indeed a problem at a few airports where HP is a signatory carrier

HP shouldn't really be a problem, as they are the controlling carrier

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 20):
Will CO run the gate for the new US @ OKC, since they ran for HP @ OKC?

If they want to keep the revenue they will



Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
User currently offlineJetdeltamsy From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2987 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (8 years 12 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2961 times:

Quoting Jmc1975 (Reply 2):
Perhaps they could negotiate with WN to allow for better logistics

Don't look for Southwest to negotiate anything that would help USAir streamline it operation.



Tired of airline bankruptcies....EA/PA/TW and finally DL.
User currently offlineAv8rPHX From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 713 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (8 years 12 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2898 times:

I'm surprised NW would want to lease a gate to a competing airline..

The gates that HP leases from NW in MSP currently are C15 and C16 for the other two RON aircraft that come in from LAS and PHX at night. C9 is the gate in MSP that HP leases from the MAC.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26601 posts, RR: 75
Reply 24, posted (8 years 12 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2889 times:

Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 22):
Don't look for Southwest to negotiate anything that would help USAir streamline it operation.

If it streamlines WN's operation as well, I am sure they could find common ground.



Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
25 USFlyer MSP : At MSP, I hear US is getting E-4 and the MAC is going to make F9 share E-5 w/ FL because they are not in compliance with the minimum usage clause in a
26 Pilottim747 : Thats probably the best solution if the schedules can be coordinated. With the current schedules F9 has a 6:30a dept while FL has a 6:20a and 7:00a d
27 Flyboy7974 : what's the situation now in philly, i mean with hp before using D6/D8/D10, i know those gates were shared with co since co did all the handling, but i
28 A330323X : Generally some combination of B5/B7/B9. US obviously still uses the gates as well.
29 Apodino : Recently, USAirways has been parking planes here as well. The RON ZW CRJ's that come in from Philly have been parked here for RON, as well as during
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
US Airways November Schedule Comments posted Sun Sep 4 2005 07:57:42 by A330323X
US Airways November Schedule Comments (non-PIT) posted Mon Sep 6 2004 18:32:43 by A330323X
Bad US (Airways) November In Europe posted Thu Dec 1 2005 01:51:23 by ChiGB1973
US Airways Expands STL Schedule For Ncaa Finals posted Fri Mar 18 2005 21:03:56 by A330323X
US Airways Ramp Schedule Question posted Tue Oct 24 2006 21:23:14 by Cadet57
US Airways Winter Schedule: Major Changes posted Sun Jul 9 2006 23:02:02 by PanAm330
US Airways Group Reports November Traffic posted Tue Dec 6 2005 22:37:25 by Jdwfloyd
US Airways Winter Schedule: When? posted Sun Aug 21 2005 08:14:10 by SHUPirate1
Some US Airways Schedule Comments posted Sat May 14 2005 01:18:26 by A330323X
Route Schedule For US Airways? posted Thu Oct 7 2004 05:25:23 by Usair330