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User currently offlineKaitak744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2364 posts, RR: 3
Posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2537 times:

I don't think any photo has puzzled me more than this one.


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1. Why are the engines in reverse thrust while the plane is in the air?
2. Why is there no door on the side of the aircraft?
3. Why is this aircraft in the U.S.? I always thought Russian planes weren't allowed in the U.S. because they are not FAA certified.
4. Why is this Airline in Los Angeles? I never knew LOT flew to L.A. When did they stop?

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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 36
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2521 times:

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
1. Why are the engines in reverse thrust while the plane is in the air?

I believe that this was a normal practice on the IL-62

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Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
2. Why is there no door on the side of the aircraft?

I'm quite sure that there are doors on the side, but may not be visible in the photo (please see photo above).

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
3. Why is this aircraft in the U.S.? I always thought Russian planes weren't allowed in the U.S. because they are not FAA certified.

The picture was taken in 1990, Russian built aircraft have been frequent visitors to the US. SEA had quite a number of Aeroflots a week coming in. If any regulations have changed, I couldn't tell you. But don't forget that the AN124 and AN225 are also quite regular visitors in US airspace.

[Edited 2005-10-24 04:25:17]


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User currently offlineKaitak744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2364 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2510 times:

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 1):
The picture was taken in 1990, Russian built aircraft have been frequent visitors to the US. SEA had quite a number of Aeroflots a week coming in. If any regulations have changed, I couldn't tell you. But don't forget that the AN124 and AN225 are also quite regular visitors in US airspace.

Well, I know the Antonov 225 is FAA certified. And I assume the AN124 is too. However, I am pretty sure that other Russian aircraft are not, Which is one of the reasons Aeroflot has 767s to fly to the U.S.


User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 36
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2500 times:

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 2):
However, I am pretty sure that other Russian aircraft are not, Which is one of the reasons Aeroflot has 767s to fly to the U.S.

I couldn't tell you when any FAA regulations (if any) were put in place. But Tu-154's, IL-62's and others were regular visitors into the US (SEA, JFK) well into the 1990's. This of course does not include any Government operated flights.



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User currently offlineAIRCANL1011 From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 262 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2489 times:

If you Look Under the "SKI" of Polskie you will see an outline of a door.


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User currently offlineBDKLEZ From Ireland, joined Jun 2005, 1735 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2485 times:

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Why is there no door on the side of the aircraft?

I would suggest there is, but given the age and (lack of) photo resolution quality, you probably just can't see any doors!



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User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2478 times:

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 2):
Well, I know the Antonov 225 is FAA certified. And I assume the AN124 is too. However, I am pretty sure that other Russian aircraft are not, Which is one of the reasons Aeroflot has 767s to fly to the U.S.

Well, let's just look at the IL62


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User currently offlineSonic67 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 292 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2450 times:

I'm guessing that the pilot can deploy the thrust reverse early because it's only on the outer # 1 & 4 and use the # 3 & 4 engine during landing.That make sense?


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2364 times:

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
. Why are the engines in reverse thrust while the plane is in the air

Common on the Type.

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
2. Why is there no door on the side of the aircraft

Look closely near the letter T

regds
MEL



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26376 posts, RR: 76
Reply 9, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2369 times:

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
3. Why is this aircraft in the U.S.? I always thought Russian planes weren't allowed in the U.S. because they are not FAA certified.



Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 2):
However, I am pretty sure that other Russian aircraft are not, Which is one of the reasons Aeroflot has 767s to fly to the U.S.

Economy is the main reason SU flies the 767s into the US. They have flown their IL-62s into JFK, SEA and SFO as well as having flown the IL-96 into LAX.



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User currently offlineKL5147 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2005, 325 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 2250 times:

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Why is there no door on the side of the aircraft?



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 8):
Look closely near the letter T

and under the letters SKI in the word Polskie



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User currently offlineAfay1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1293 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1983 times:

There are no FAA regulations banning any incoming Soviet aircraft because they are Soviet. There are NOISE restrictions that preclude their use in some places for regular flights. For the same reason one cannot start an airline in the US with BAC 1-11's or Caravelle's. The certification question has to do whether or not a US airline could acquire them rather than if a foreign airline can fly them into the US.

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