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Kaitak744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2208 posts, RR: 3
Posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1725 times:

I don't think any photo has puzzled me more than this one.

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1. Why are the engines in reverse thrust while the plane is in the air?
2. Why is there no door on the side of the aircraft?
3. Why is this aircraft in the U.S.? I always thought Russian planes weren't allowed in the U.S. because they are not FAA certified.
4. Why is this Airline in Los Angeles? I never knew LOT flew to L.A. When did they stop?

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ACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7598 posts, RR: 40
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1709 times:

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
1. Why are the engines in reverse thrust while the plane is in the air?

I believe that this was a normal practice on the IL-62

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Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
2. Why is there no door on the side of the aircraft?

I'm quite sure that there are doors on the side, but may not be visible in the photo (please see photo above).

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
3. Why is this aircraft in the U.S.? I always thought Russian planes weren't allowed in the U.S. because they are not FAA certified.

The picture was taken in 1990, Russian built aircraft have been frequent visitors to the US. SEA had quite a number of Aeroflots a week coming in. If any regulations have changed, I couldn't tell you. But don't forget that the AN124 and AN225 are also quite regular visitors in US airspace.

[Edited 2005-10-24 04:25:17]

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Kaitak744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2208 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1698 times:

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 1):
The picture was taken in 1990, Russian built aircraft have been frequent visitors to the US. SEA had quite a number of Aeroflots a week coming in. If any regulations have changed, I couldn't tell you. But don't forget that the AN124 and AN225 are also quite regular visitors in US airspace.

Well, I know the Antonov 225 is FAA certified. And I assume the AN124 is too. However, I am pretty sure that other Russian aircraft are not, Which is one of the reasons Aeroflot has 767s to fly to the U.S.

ACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7598 posts, RR: 40
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1688 times:

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 2):
However, I am pretty sure that other Russian aircraft are not, Which is one of the reasons Aeroflot has 767s to fly to the U.S.

I couldn't tell you when any FAA regulations (if any) were put in place. But Tu-154's, IL-62's and others were regular visitors into the US (SEA, JFK) well into the 1990's. This of course does not include any Government operated flights.

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AIRCANL1011 From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 262 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1677 times:

If you Look Under the "SKI" of Polskie you will see an outline of a door.

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BDKLEZ From Ireland, joined Jun 2005, 1735 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1673 times:

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Why is there no door on the side of the aircraft?

I would suggest there is, but given the age and (lack of) photo resolution quality, you probably just can't see any doors!

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Dtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1666 times:

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 2):
Well, I know the Antonov 225 is FAA certified. And I assume the AN124 is too. However, I am pretty sure that other Russian aircraft are not, Which is one of the reasons Aeroflot has 767s to fly to the U.S.

Well, let's just look at the IL62

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Sonic67 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1638 times:

I'm guessing that the pilot can deploy the thrust reverse early because it's only on the outer # 1 & 4 and use the # 3 & 4 engine during landing.That make sense?

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HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31201 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1552 times:

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
. Why are the engines in reverse thrust while the plane is in the air

Common on the Type.

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
2. Why is there no door on the side of the aircraft

Look closely near the letter T

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N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1557 times:

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
3. Why is this aircraft in the U.S.? I always thought Russian planes weren't allowed in the U.S. because they are not FAA certified.

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 2):
However, I am pretty sure that other Russian aircraft are not, Which is one of the reasons Aeroflot has 767s to fly to the U.S.

Economy is the main reason SU flies the 767s into the US. They have flown their IL-62s into JFK, SEA and SFO as well as having flown the IL-96 into LAX.

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KL5147 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2005, 301 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1438 times:

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Why is there no door on the side of the aircraft?

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 8):
Look closely near the letter T

and under the letters SKI in the word Polskie

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Afay1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1293 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1171 times:

There are no FAA regulations banning any incoming Soviet aircraft because they are Soviet. There are NOISE restrictions that preclude their use in some places for regular flights. For the same reason one cannot start an airline in the US with BAC 1-11's or Caravelle's. The certification question has to do whether or not a US airline could acquire them rather than if a foreign airline can fly them into the US.

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