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User currently offlineDptMAN From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 207 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 22395 times:

Well, I know someone else started this link a few weeks ago, so i thought i would finish or even carry on the trend of the best airport in the North-west. Any news on the new Etihad service to Abu Dhabi, and the apparent UA IAD service?

Thanks in advance.

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User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 22375 times:

Slot conference is imminent so wait for the news.

User currently offlineBigOrange From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2410 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 22352 times:

I doubt we'll see UA to IAD.

They seem to be cutting back on International routes and will be down to 1 a day on LHR-JFK.

User currently offlineDptMAN From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 22341 times:

Shame about IAD services out of MAN. I flew BD to IAD in February, great service, exept a few hours delay, that didnt bother me as the service onboard was first class. Bearing in mind i was in economy. BD need to get there act together and re-instate their IAD service. Surely UA will have free slots at IAD due to cutbacks of the LHR service.

Thanks for all your replies by the way.

User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 22339 times:

Quoting BigOrange (Reply 2):
I doubt we'll see UA to IAD.

Looking more than possible at the moment.

The loads were sufficient for a 763 but a bit too much for BD's underpromoted A332 service. UA could make a go of it as the traffic is connecting.

If so they would be on a route with no competition after all, which is more than can be said for LHR which is not peofrming well for them.

User currently offlineDptMAN From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 22322 times:

Seems like a new IAD service out of MAN is a none starter. I heard that UA officials were in MAN the other week, would this be UA taking an interest in future services out of MAN to the USA.

User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 22326 times:

UA would do well to note the success of some of the other Majors (CO, AA, US; as well as DL in the future perhaps) in moving to airports like MAN.

I can see them doing it. It is competition free, and they will also have spare aircraft as a result of their dropping of Trans Atlantic services. And I can't see BD moving back on to the route, as many people would see them as a joke, and could perhaps be concerned about booking due to the messing about BD have previously done with scheduling.

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User currently offlineStarGoldLHR From Heard and McDonald Islands, joined Feb 2004, 1529 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 22198 times:

BD is a joke.

I used to be BD StarSilver and UA StarGold at the same time.
I'm dropping BD starsilver, programs a joke, airlines gone to hell and what used to be superb US Service from MAN became the ryanair of the atlantic with that 757.

To me best hope would be the following:

BD bought by VS and renamed Chav-Air and operates as a feeder for VS
LH/SAS make inroads to UK operations with MAN hub using their BD Sales money
UA matches LH at MAN with Atlantic operations

Ryanair changes to a seaboat plane service, by removing wheels and moving all hubs to sea ports inorder to save carrying the weight of wheels in the aircraft. Additiionally solar panels are added to the wings to provide electricity and a window made openable to dispense with the AC

So far in 2008 45 flights and Gold already. JFK, IAD, LGA, SIN, HKG, NRT, AKL, PPT, LAX still to book ! Home Airport LCY
User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2650 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 22200 times:
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Quoting DptMAN (Reply 3):
BD need to get there act together and re-instate their IAD service. Surely UA will have free slots at IAD due to cutbacks of the LHR service.

Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 6):
UA would do well to note the success of some of the other Majors (CO, AA, US; as well as DL in the future perhaps) in moving to airports like MAN.

Fact is though that the MAN-IAD and MAN-ORD routes were/are joint operations between bmi and United. Under the original agreement between United and bmi for both services, United paid contributions towards bmi's operating costs and guaranteed a certain number of seats per flight.

Far more than a simple BD/UA codeshare, bmi's MAN-IAD/ORD routes started out as a true joint service agreement (in a similar manner to the BA/QF agreement on UK-Australia flights) with extensive involvement from United.

The MAN-IAD route was always the weaker route, even given American Airlines' direct competition on the MAN-ORD route - IAD has always been marginal and the first one to be seasonally dropped, operated at reduced frequency and finally downgraded to a 757. Given United's close involvement in the Manchester routes they will be perfectly well aware of the real financial performance and potential of MAN-IAD.

People often forget how different most MAN-USA services are from those from London in that most Manchester flights depend on connecting traffic to onward destinations via strong US hubs. Continental's oft quoted figure is that around 70% of their MAN-EWR passengers transfer onto connecting flights, far higher than you'll generally find on London routes. Viewed in that light although MAN-IAD had no direct competition, in reality it was competing with MAN-ORD/EWR/PHL/ATL and to a much lesser extent JFK/MCO/BOS for exactly the same traffic. BA's MAN-JFK and AA's MAN-BOS are the only year round routes that survive primarily on O&D traffic, plus Virgin's quasi-charter service MAN-MCO.

I doubt with their financial problems and the fact that they are scaling back Trans-Atlantic flights - particularly from Washington which underperforms as a hub, that a MAN-IAD flight holds much interest for them. Don't forget that United have scaled back much of their IAD operation over the past few years, and lost a lot of their regional feed when ASA became Independence Air and decided end their United Express operation. Dulles just isn't as attractive as a hub as it once was - most United destinations offer just as good, if not better, connections from via Chicago.

As a result the ORD route continues to perform, and the IAD route has been on life-support since well before the Icelandair 757 turned up. I think we can be fairly certain that if/when bmi move their last A330 down to LHR that United will immediately pick up the MAN-ORD route, to protect the strong feed at their largest hub.


User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7810 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 22072 times:
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Quoting Crosswind (Reply 8):
Continental's oft quoted figure is that around 70% of their MAN-EWR passengers transfer onto connecting flights, far higher than you'll generally find on London routes

Just refreshed my mind with the CAA survey data from 2003. It shows:
BA to JFK 89% ptp, CO to EWR 50% ptp, DL to ATL 22% ptp, BD to IAD 40% ptp, AA to ORD 18% ptp, BD to ORD 15% ptp, US to PHL 20% ptp.

where ptp = point-to-point. I'm sure we'll find out in due course what the 2004/2005 figures are looking like, especially with CO having gone double daily to presumably increase the range of connections available.


User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2650 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 22048 times:
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Interesting figures...

I'm amazed that the bmi MAN-IAD was 40% PTP though! The 70% figure I quoted for Continental was from their initial operations at Manchester in 1995/6. Like you I'd guess that Continental's proportion of point-to-point passengers for their flights might be lower this year now that capacity has been increased with the double-daily flight.

Also there's maybe more of a market for Delta's MAN-JFK flights next year than I thought, but is this not the 4th time a US carrier has had a crack at the MAN-JFK route? AA twice and DL once before...

Also will be interesting to see if more people are now travelling beyond JFK using the BA/AA alliance...

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User currently offlineBMIbaby733 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 22008 times:


User currently offlineDptMAN From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 21925 times:

Thanks again for all you replies.
I hear on the Manchester Airport website that Iceland Air are to operate a twice weekly (Monday & Friday) operation from MAN to KEF with a 752.

FI 440 Keflavik Int'l (KEF), Reykjavik, Iceland 17:30
Manchester Int'l (MAN), Manchester, United Kingdom 21:05
752 2:35 Monday

FI 441 Manchester Int'l (MAN), Manchester, United Kingdom 22:05
Keflavik Int'l (KEF), Reykjavik, Iceland 23:35
752 2:30 Monday
Source: Iceland Air Website

Surely is there enough demand for this service to be run on such a large aircraft, i would have expected also for Iceland Express to jump in there first. However Iceland Air do operate and offer connection services to their destinationsa in the US. Maybe now we shall see some competition on the route from Iceland Express or even our beloved 'BD'!!!!!

[Edited 2005-10-25 09:59:22]

User currently offlineGayrugbyMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1737 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 21891 times:

And totally useless for transatlantic traffic! Thanks, Icelandair!

User currently offlineF27XXX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 21883 times:

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 13):
And totally useless for transatlantic traffic! Thanks, Icelandair!

Do try a trip up to Reykjavik some time tho if you can. Its a wild city with a fun night life ...winkwink .....  yes  !

User currently offlineGayrugbyMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1737 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 21867 times:

Yes, I have heard they have nicknamed it Gaykjavik!

User currently offlineBA757 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2832 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 21868 times:

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 13):
And totally useless for transatlantic traffic! Thanks, Icelandair!

Don't they give you a free stop over in Iceland or did I totally imagine that?

It was always tempting to take them to JFK with the stop in KEF, but then I think the AMS-JFK KL T7 is a bit better.

I fancy Iceland though, might have to look into the possibility of an overnight trip there.


User currently offlineF27XXX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 21860 times:

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 15):
Yes, I have heard they have nicknamed it Gaykjavik

yes it does apply ... and let me tell u bout those big hot Nordic men and their big hands! WOOF!


User currently offlineDptMAN From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 21838 times:

I also wouldnt route out a stop over in Iceland. I plan on travelling to ORF in February 2006. Maybe MAN > KEF > BWI on Iceland Air may be an option. However the fares are quiete high. Plus a further flight on Southwest Airlines to ORF. I may stick to MAN > ORD > ORF instead.

Plus, any news on AZ's service to FCO?

User currently offlineGayrugbyMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1737 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 21818 times:

Can;t see AZ going for FCO now Jet2 have announced this route.

User currently offlineDptMAN From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 21798 times:

[QUOTE]Can;t see AZ going for FCO now Jet2 have announced this route.[QUOTE].

True comment. I would have thought however that LS would have done this on a daily basis rather than 3/4 weekly. They took a gamble on the MAN > BUD service starting daily last november (now a 3/4 weekly), surely there is more demand for MAN>FCO than MAN>BUD when first started?

User currently offlineGayrugbyMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1737 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 21780 times:

Rome isn't a stag/hen party destination though.....and lets face it, the business links beween Manchester and Rome are pretty weak.

User currently offlineDptMAN From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 21753 times:

Any news on future flyBE routes from MAN after the launch of new services to Exeter & Belfast City?

User currently offlineBA757 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2832 posts, RR: 13
Reply 23, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 21736 times:

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 21):
Rome isn't a stag/hen party destination though.....and lets face it, the business links beween Manchester and Rome are pretty weak.

AZ seem to do okay on MAN-MXP though, every time I take that flight its pretty much full. I believe AZ get a lot of pax on onward connections though, as they can be quite cheap.

I think they could probably do okay with FCO, so they can feed some more of their longhaul and european flights/

I for one would like to see them start FCO.


User currently offlineDptMAN From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 21704 times:

What about a new service to SNN after BA cancelled in September. Maybe FR (Ryanair) will take up the daily route or even jet2?

25 WhiteHatter : Last time DL had a go, was before the Skyteam linkup days. They were in direct competition with AA and a 767 plus BA with a TriStar/763 both to JFK.
26 Crosswind : Think your timeline is a bit off! Delta never served JFK at the same time as AA... American started MAN-JFK in 1990, initially using a 767-200. In 19
27 GayrugbyMAN : Still waiting on the Cathay announcement....!
28 Billy : I recall seeing DL 310s in MAN. Is it possible they were used on JFK?
29 Mhodgson : I can' see there being enough demand for a 737. Perhaps it is an Eastern route.
30 Gkirk : Delta started MAN-JFK usign L1011-500s if I remember correctly.
31 Oly720man : Yes, they were.
32 Crosswind : Trawled back through some old airport timetables at the equipment Delta have used over the years. You're both right - Delta did use the A310 (albeit
33 Post contains images Crosswind : Just a quick one to say the A310s couldn't have been used on the JFK route - they were phased out in 1996 and MAN-JFK didn't start until June 1997 Re
34 Post contains images Speedbird19 : that route is incredibly popular, at least it has been of late when i've been checking it in, the majority of pax as you said do have onwards connect
35 BA757 : My only quibble with AZ is their unreliability - they don't seem to have a problem with canceling flights. Just the other day I had a phone call to t
36 Post contains images Speedbird19 : This winter they're timetabled to use the EMB170 on the MXP route, I'd guess they'd use that to start with if they did FCO, either that or a 320, or e
37 BA757 : Yep thats what I meant. I think it starts next Monday on the late night flight? I know I am booked on MAN-MXP on the E70 on the Tuesday 9.30am flight
38 DptMAN : Fair point, however what about FRs route out of LPL daily to SNN. What are the loads like on this flight? Surely if FR can make it work out of LPL to
39 Planesarecool : Surely if BA dropped it then it meant there wasn't enough demand to keep it going, and that was with smaller aircraft. Ryanair haven't really been to
40 Billy : Just picking up on the E170s with AZ, I have been loking at a trip to Asia on Finnair and the schedule appeared to show their evening flight as being
41 BA757 : To be expected really. BA won't pick up the tab if they sell you a flight that arrives at LGW, but your connection departs LHR. I am just very carefu
42 Pyh : Yes, expect on Sunday (31 Oct =>). But of course they can change the aircraft type anytime.
43 Post contains images Mhodgson : Yep
44 Post contains links and images DptMAN : Is LOT now opperating the daily WAW>MAN flight with E70's? Seen quiet a few pictures however, these may have been for the Football game last week. Vie
45 BA757 : Yes they have been for awhile. They come in late at night and depart very early the following day. Adam
46 DptMAN : So, any news on new long-haul routes from MAN? Hopefully Etihad will release they're news soon, or even an expansion of VS.
47 GayrugbyMAN : If EY do start, I cant see it much before summer 06, same for VS, CX (still no news there!) and other possible long hauls.
48 Billy : EY are playing hard ball with Manchester. They want more money, or so they say.
49 David_itl : Jet2 is now advertising for 757 pilots at MAN in addition to the existing LBA postings and a little rumour...City Airline of Sweden is starting a LYS
50 Post contains images TIMC : Was that in the jobs section of the Evening News then?!
51 Post contains images Capital146 : Jet2 now have seats on sale for EDI until the end of March, so looks like it is here to stay for a while yet. Surprised nobody has mentioned Aer Arann
52 Capital146 : Where did you see this? The Channex website that handles recruitment for Jet2 still only offers B757 crew vacancies to be based at LBA. The only vaca
53 David_itl : Bit more classier - the classified section of Flight International. Anyway, the Evening News still hasn't noted the DL JFK service! David
54 TIMC : it has... i saw an advert for it t'other week, near the pink pages
55 GayrugbyMAN : A little bird mentioned to me that it would be a great news story if Manchester Airport announcednew services in one big bang news story: Etihad, Cath
56 Demoose : GayRugbyMAN for once get off your high horse. Your begining to sound like the boy who cried wolf. I don't know why your so secretive about your so cal
57 GayrugbyMAN : Like everyoe else here isrevealing souces and talking a load of sense, too! Get bak in your box, matey!!
58 Demoose : What sense have you talked? You're just speculating mate, why don't you keep to the facts, thats if your 'sources' actually know the facts. Mark
59 Jetset7E7 : Well thats killed the thread lol Mark
60 Post contains images Brokenrecord : Might I recommend MAN - PHL - ORF on US?
61 HS748 : I flew it a few weeks back - less than half full from SNN to LPL.
62 DptMAN : Thanks for the advice, i have tried every possible thread out of MAN to major US Hubs on the east coast, ive tries flying to JFK, BOS, PHL and ORD. I
63 Post contains links and images DptMAN : Would this be due to the current scheduling of the LPL>SNN>LPL FR flight. I am aware for winter a LPL based aircraft is opperating the route with a 1
64 Post contains images Brokenrecord : No problem! I wasn't sure if you were aware of US's easy routing to ORF. US has the most flights in and out of ORF daily, so connections to there are
65 DptMAN : Any Etihad News yet?? And why were UA in MAN, if not for IAD nor ORD, then where??
66 Pieinthesky : Cathay have apparently just announced they are stopping a 3 x weekly AKL flight with a 343 to allow 'expansion in Europe'......
67 ZK-NBT : I believe this will be the case, the flight has dissappeared from the schedules for the Northern Summer 2006, currently operates 5x weekly. They will
68 Candid76 : Not exactly news, but the Dragonair 743 freighter is currently being handled on stand 12 - the stand at the end of B-pier often used for passenger 747
69 Mattlancs : who flies to new york jfk from man? and when
70 Zkojh : I Know BA offer a daily service to JFK with 763 aircraft,
71 Mattlancs : i know off topic, wot dus aucklands international terminal look like now?
72 Wrighbrothers : British Airways MAN-JFK once daily non-stop with 767-336ER You already have started a thread about that. BTW- You are Matt24wigan aren't you. Wrighbr
73 Pieinthesky : How many times are you going to ask about the interior of Auckland & Changi ?????? Give it a f*cking rest....
74 Mhodgson : As do PIA, twice a week, I think.
75 MANmatt : BA1502/3 MAN-JFK 763 PIA also have ops ex. MAN to JFK and back. As of next May: DL155/154 MAN-JFK 764 matt
76 MANmatt : As mentioned in another thread, Air Berlin will commence a twice daily STN-MAN service on the 16th december: dep STN: 0740 arr MAN: 0830 AB8014 dep MA
77 Demoose : Saw the Dragonair 74F parked on pier B during my lunchbreak, what exactly was it doing there? West apron full due to charter aircraft with time on the
78 Mattlancs : wot is being dun 2 terminal 2 namely the upgrades, and i heard that another terminal is going 2 b built is that true?
79 Daleaholic : Anybody know if US Airways are planning different schedules or more flights on the MAN - PHL route? Thanks
80 Demoose : T2 west pier extended, along with the main terminal building. T2's interior layout is also going to change quite alot too. Thats the fundamentals of i
81 Mattlancs : how many gates dus T2 have
82 Gkirk : I see CX used a 747-400F into MAN yesterday, replacing the 742s?
83 Candid76 : Extra Cathay flight each Thursday using a 747-400F, giving three 747s to Hong Kong (CX/KA) on Thursday. Absolutely tremendous frequency to HKG, provid
84 Gkirk : Anyone know why a Centurion Air Cargo DC-10 was in MAN today, arriving from MIA?
85 DptMAN : Any chance of scheduled CX flight?
86 GayrugbyMAN : I understand from sources that Terminal 1 departires is to be further modified this winter. It has been mentioned that the T1 outbound security area i
87 Post contains images MANmatt : Apparently thats what they wanted to do with T2 security as well, move it upstairs, then passengers would have to come straight back downstairs. I don
88 Post contains images Capital146 : Nice to read a fact, rather than a rumour, on here!
89 GayrugbyMAN : According to another postings site, BA Citiexpress is to make an announcement on Friday regarding a new name and a new long haul service from Manchest
90 Post contains images Concorde001 : I heard that as well - apparently the new longhaul route is MAN-ORD. To be honest, I think it's a load of cobblers! They may announce a rebranding, b
91 GayrugbyMAN : Well I am sure BA have done their research in to any new routes and how profitable they would be. There is certainly a market for ORD and onwards....p
92 GayrugbyMAN : Interesting article in today's FT: Taken from the Financial Times online: British Airways is planning to restructure UK regional business BA CitiExpre
93 ScottieDog : Very surprised not to have seen this posted already this evening.... Etihad Airways ARE to start a daily service between Abu Dhabi and Manchester with
94 Post contains links Mhodgson : Air Southwest have announced a 2x daily route to Cardiff, as well as in 'improved service' between NQY and MAN. http://www.airsouthwest.com/latestnews
95 GayrugbyMAN : Was talking to a BA employee at MAN today who sad staff are seriosly cocerned about all the speculation surrounding this so-called announcement. They
96 BigOrange : Never go direct to FI for fares. Your best source is Airline Ticket Network in Preston. There was also a place called Orient Travel (I think) in Lond
97 Post contains images Pieinthesky : Somebody has read an interview in this months TAS magazine......
98 Pieinthesky : Read a post on the BA board on Flyertalk earlier today that says BA are axeing flights from MAN to Cork, Nice, Pisa, Rome, Stuttgart, Venice, Zurich a
99 GayrugbyMAN : They already have axed those routes.
100 Mhodgson : Yeah, those routes went with the winter timetable. Hopefully no more will go when the summer timetables come round! I can perhaps understand connectin
101 Post contains images DavidT : Perhaps they will come back for the summer timetable? Summer is an airline's busier period
102 Crosscountry : BA don't care about MAN. Like BD, if it ain't Heathrow, they ain't interested
103 Post contains images MANmatt : SAS A330-300 SE-REE arrived into MAN today at 1402 local for maintenance. The a/c was originally planned to ferry ARN-CPH but CPH could not carry out
104 BigOrange : Oh great, another A330 down. I guess we'll be seeing Iceair in EWR the next few days, or the complete cancellation of one of the flights!
105 ScottieDog : Manchester airport website is refering to a 'domestic travel boom' with 67 additional flights per week by next summer. The interesting, and previously
106 Demoose : Can anyone enlighten me on Jet2's plans for the MAN-AMS route. I have to be in Amsterdam for the last week in March 2006 and flights are only showing
107 Trekster : Well, citiexpress do seem to like man, they just took over alot more office space in our office outsdie the city. No idea on this so called annoncment
108 Capital146 : Mark, it is the same scenario on their LBA-AMS route too. It seems that they are being much more cautious on the routes which are less leisure orient
109 Post contains links and images Gkirk : Looking good SE-REE @ MAN
110 Jetset7E7 : SE-REE is due for SR Technics today. Its been parked on stand 71 overnight. Some MyTravel Denmark aircraft are due to arrive soon for maintenance. Mar
111 Speedbird19 : I saw that today when i was over in T2 parked not far from stand 251 (i only know that one because the AZ stays there overnight!!!), had all scaffoldi
112 MANmatt : LH are increasing DUS to 4 daily during the week starting 09JAN06. LH4886 arrives 1030, LH4887 departs 1100. matt
113 GayrugbyMAN : I understand that it now looks very likely that BMI and BMI Baby will move all servics to terminal 3. It has been sugested that gate 43 will be modifi
114 Demoose : Rumours about BMI moving to T3 have been banded about the airport since summer. With BMI reducing long haul ex MAN even more it now seems logical to m
115 KA501 : Knew they had stopped IAD but wasn't aware of anywhere else. According to Amadeus the Las Vegas increases to 3 x Weekly in summer Tue,Thu,Sun. Barbad
116 GayrugbyMAN : And I have heard that they are to lease a 767, too. Could this be to restart the IAD ?
117 Post contains images Gkirk : Thought the 767 was to do the LAS and Carribean routes whilst another A330 went down to LHR
118 MANmatt : The 767 IS doing LAS along wiv BGI and ANU. Have heard that the 330 is going to Manila for heavy maintenance, but it could be going to LHR in time fo
119 GayrugbyMAN : When do BMI take delivery?
120 Billy : How about this one: Air China freigher service into MAN from Beijing coming soon.
121 DptMAN : Great news about Etihad to Abu Dhabi, Now how about an IAD service? Plus whats the news on the new BA longhaul, surely they wont start a daily ORD fli
122 Post contains images Speedbird19 : i second DptMAN, a direct routing from MAN-LAX would be really good, saves doing transfers plus i think it'd be really popular (and easier for me when
123 Gkirk : BA will probably never operate another long haul route out of MAN. As for LAX, I would say AA (763s) would be favourite IMHO.
124 DptMAN : Is this a reliabel source of a possible long-haul out of MAN by BA? DPT
125 DptMAN : AA would do well on a MAN>LAX service, it would mean shorter traveltime due to no stopover in LHR or european destinations and East coast USA airports
126 MANmatt : Bmibaby are finally getting there act together and increasing their presence at MAN. New daily routes to NQY and PGF from 26MAR06, AGP increases to 8
127 MANmatt : Mahan Airlines (W5) schedules for the new THR-MAN-THR route, starting 10DEC05: Mahan Airlines W5 5018 Imam Khomeini Intl (IKA), Tehran, Iran 03:00 Man
128 KA501 : Good news for me just booked it £129 for 4 adults in August! Fantastic. Maybe they did it knowing BE maybe looking at it!
129 GayrugbyMAN : Perpignan has been chosen as it is where the new Super League team Catalans are from....think of all that traffic when they play Wigan, Warrington, St
130 GayrugbyMAN : With Jet2 announcing NCL to MAH and AMS, could this mean a couple of the MAN 737s moving up there to be replaced with 757s? Wish LS would do a daily o
131 ScottieDog : Re: Jet2 Amsterdam People seem to forget that Jet2 have always been very good at not publishing timetables for a route until they are certain of the s
132 Pieinthesky : While they will unboubtedly get some traffic I hardly think a new team playing in a minority sport is the sole reason for starting a service.
133 GayrugbyMAN : Oh here we go...............
134 Post contains images Pieinthesky : ... [Edited 2005-11-23 11:00:47]
135 DptMAN : Was there talk of WIZZ Air of Poland operating into MAN? Plus great news about Air Southwest flights to CWL starting next year.This will allow me to m
136 ScotspanGSM : I was reading in a scottish paper that jet2 are looking at a MAN-GLA route, they applied for slots but where rejected. Also in aviation news.
137 ScottieDog : Ryanair have announced a new Shannon/Manchester route, effective 22nd February 2006. Flight to operate 3 times weekly.
138 Ib16uk : This is a very interesting thread on a.net Interested to read bmi - bmibaby at Terminal 3 ! Im aware that BA mainline operate from T3 aswell - Does BA
139 Mhodgson : Yep - up to 12 return LHR flights, and 7 LGW returns daily.
140 Boysteve : Why were they rejected? Did they pick times when either MAN or GLA are already at capacity? I don't understand the reason for this.
141 GayrugbyMAN : Have heard that AtlasBlue are likely to start a Manchester Marrakesh service in the spring, good competition for GB Airways! With FR anoouncing a MAN
142 GayrugbyMAN : According to PPRUNE: Hot off the press: CX 237/6 HKG-SVO-MAN vv Depart HKG 0015 Arrive SVO 0626 Depart 0750 Arrive MAN 0855 Depart MAN 1000 Arrive SVO
143 ScottieDog : Also, although not officially announced, Qatar Airways are to increase their operation from Manchester to daily. They are showing a mixture of morning
144 KA501 : On Amadeus! Qatar Airways QR 42 Manchester Int'l (MAN), Manchester, United Kingdom Terminal 2 10:20 Doha (DOH), Doha, Qatar 19:15 Non-stop 332 6h55mi
145 David_itl : FR will not be expanding in terms of basing aircraft. What may happen (in dribs and drabs) is that we may get linked to destinations that LPL already
146 Mhodgson : Hmm, once again nothing on CX's website, either as news or a bookable route, nor on MAN's website. Much as I'd like to believe this, this isn't the f
147 Boysteve : Here, here.....
148 Capital146 : I am very, very, disappointed to see that the WW MAN-ORK service will remain at just 1 x daily for next summer, thus giving no option of a direct day
149 Planesarecool : To be honest, i don't think a new 4-weekly flight to Shannon is likely to be a "tentative" to start expanding there, and i don't think easyJet will b
150 Post contains images 7LBAC111 : This one happens to be true....trust me! I have been advised by the same source who enabled me to break NCL-JFK by AA. 7LBAC111
151 CCA : Once again the CX news is true, expect an announcement next week.
152 GayrugbyMAN : I understand that Terminal 3 was the preferred choice of terminal, on order to hook up with BA and OneWorld, but seeing as BMI are to move over there
153 Billy : CX will announce something early next week. Some traffic rights are permitted on the MAN-SVO sector but there may be restrictions. Air China's freight
154 DptMAN : Great News about 3x/Weekly SNN flight from FR & daily services to Doha. Having CX to Hong Kong via SVO would be the icing on the cake. Although UA at
155 Billy : DL coming onto JFK scared off UA. UA had plans to fill the BD gap on IAD.
156 Behramjee : Qatar Airways are also studying 5th freedom rights across the Atlantic to USA and Canada from MAN for next summer onwards. Apart from MAN, 5th freedom
157 Demoose : British Airways will finally be introducing Club World flat beds and World Traveller Plus on its 767-300 MAN-JFK service from mid January. Mark
158 GayrugbyMAN : Great to see BA's further commitment to Manchester long-haul network! Bravo!
159 Post contains images Demoose : Well it's hardly a network, but its a small step in the right direction Mark
160 ScottieDog : END OF THE RUMOURS ABOUT CATHAY Just had a look in the Sabre GDS (Reservations System) and the Hong Kong/Manchester service is now available for sale.
161 KA501 : Amadeus revealed the following. Sterling Blue DM 106 Manchester Int'l (MAN), Manchester, United Kingdom Terminal 2 08:25 Copenhagen (CPH), Copenhagen,
162 Post contains links Mhodgson : www.sterling.dk Most aircraft still have the old Maersk livery.
163 ScottieDog : KA501 I think the CRS/GDS systems still have last summer's schedules loaded. Does Amadeus actually show any seats as available? Scottie Dog
164 GayrugbyMAN : Look out for AirBlue, too!! They have slots for next summer to operate a Manchester Islamabad service, with an A330....let's see if they actually oper
165 Mhodgson : Are these the ones who were supposed to use a 747 in a PTV equipped, quality layout?
166 Post contains links Jetset7E7 : No thats Global Spirit Airlines, using a 742 operated by European, tiwce weekly to Islamabad Global Spirit Mark
167 GayrugbyMAN : Which was meant to start in July, then August, then September, then NOctober, then November, then it all fell quiet....
168 KA501 : Was only once daily last summer DM109 never operated!
169 Post contains links and images Concorde001 : Cathay have confirmed the MAN-SVO-HKG service on their website: Cathay Pacific announces service to Moscow and Manchester Cathay Pacific Airways today
170 David_itl : GBAirways to add a 2 weekly MAN-Herakion service from next May -flights on Tuesdays and Fridays. Anyone else going to write to their local MP to seek
171 GayrugbyMAN : Malaga Arrecife Las Palmas Marrakesh Dubrovnik Paphos Malta Heraklion........ where next for GB?? My feeling is Nice, Barcelona and Rhodes....
172 Kiwiandrew : they dont codeshare on the HKG-LHR flights either - the only BA/CX codeshares I am aware of are some shorthaul flights in Europe which CX places in c
173 Chilledflyer : The only codeshare flights on CX metal by BA that are known are the following:- BA4569 HKG-DPS BA4561 HKG-KUL-PEN BA4553 HKG-AKL BA4551 HKG-AKL BA4573
174 GayrugbyMAN : Anyone know which routes Jet2 are to use their 757s on from Manchester next summer?
175 Post contains links Oly720man : And some other news. QTR are to go daily, MAN-DOH from March 26 next year after 5/week from Feb 11th. http://www.tradearabia.com/tanews/newsdetails_sn
176 David_itl : Next VS long-haul route starts next November...it's weekly to St Lucia starting on 16th Nov. Mildly amusing to see the proud claim that they'e tripled
177 GayrugbyMAN : How convenient that BD announce long haul expansion from LHR as VS announce serving a Caribbean destination that BD currently operate from MAN, and wh
178 MANmatt : Is it me or is anyone getting quite sceptical oh whether EY are going to really operate from MAN this comin spring? Surely for a longhaul airline to g
179 GayrugbyMAN : I am atarting to think EY might turn in to a Gulf Traveller announce BHX services scenario...remember that, everyone?! Perhaps QR going daily and EK m
180 MANmatt : hmm. Could well be. What ever happened to Transaero (UN) coming to MAN? They said they were coming, its was even in Planetalk around the airport, and
181 GayrugbyMAN : Remember Air Algerie Turkmenistan? Malev? Cubana? Wideroe? All started and then left without trace!
182 MANmatt : Wideroe did well from MAN, i know they did. The problem was they could make more money deploying the a/c on domestic routes. Same happened with Air Ma
183 ScottieDog : Don't panic too much about EY. If you had bothered to look at their website, you would see that they are only offering the winter schedule for sale at
184 MANmatt : Ok, i have been looking at their website for quite a while now. Didn't realise they hadn't released summer '06 yet. Quite surprising considering its o
185 ScottieDog : MANmatt Nearly fell for the same result myself. It was only when I looked at the date range that I realised the potential problem! I agree that they n
186 Post contains links MANmatt : Dont know if its new, or just restarting but Helios Airways are starting weekly flights to PFO and LCA. Flights start 15th Jan 06. Source: www.justpla
187 GayrugbyMAN : Not sure if this has been mentioned either, but rumour has it that Ryanair may also start Charleroi and Girona from MAN...anyone know anything? Would
188 David_itl : I doubt CRL with FR will start...if only for the fact that they couldn't make LPL-CRL work despite getting decent loads! Here's the VS UVF timings: VS
189 GayrugbyMAN : VS can always position up a 747, can;t they? Or has that been banned..??!
190 Mhodgson : Apparantly, according to the schedules, they are actually increasing MCO to 10 weekly - VS073/4 - during July and August (according to a post on manc
191 Post contains images BBJII : Banned? in what sense? Not permitted to Ferry Flights into MAN?
192 DptMAN : Are these new services from VS to BGI and UVF take overs from the BD services?
193 GayrugbyMAN : This has been mentioned. Aren't rats smelly....!
194 Mhodgson : Not quite news, but Air Berlin have some great offers at the moment, valid for another 24 hours or so. You can get to several cities in Germany and be
195 DptMAN : Any news of more new services or updates of the MAN schedule for 2005/2006? Would be great to hear news and i really want to see a Air Berlin flight t
196 MANmatt : Has any heard anything about a possible return for AI back to MAN?
197 Speedbird19 : Do Air Berlin still go to DUS from MAN?
198 Mhodgson : Having looked at fares for sates in February, it would appear not, they are routing through STN instead.
199 BAxMAN : Looks like you grumpy northerners will soon not just be bitching about London Airways, but Air London too! Hehehehe.
200 WhiteHatter : It would be a tough route to make money from as EK and QR are doing great guns with single stops via their hubs into the subcontinent. Lufthansa also
201 Post contains images Mhodgson : Don't worry, BA still fly to DUS direct from MAN. And I'm flying them on said route in February
202 BA757 : A quick question, when I was boarding my AZ MAN-MXP flight on Sunday morning, I noticed a TCX A320 with no engines and what looked like taped up wheel
203 Demoose : That is G-BXKB which is now in long term storage. Mark
204 MainMAN : The powers that be at MAN seem to think that other points needing attention include Chinese cities other than Hong Kong, and Japan. Not to mention th
205 DptMAN : Again a direct LAX service from MAN by AA or UA might do well maybe only as a 3x/weekly - 6x/weekly like Aer Lingus out of DUB?
206 GayrugbyMAN : It'll come, most likely with Air New Zealand I would imagine.
207 David_itl : NZ will not look at MAN for the forseeable future as it seems it's just a matter of "when" and not "if" they commence addtional London flights - they'
208 Planesarecool : Was at Manchester on monday. Flew up on BA2906 departing 12:55 on a B737-500 (G-GFFD), and had about 40 passengers onboard. There were only about 8 of
209 WhiteHatter : If you look at the latest press release it gives some interesting figures Business/exec passenger numbers on non-scheduled private flights are up over
210 Candid76 : Good to see their 744s will be appearing here for this year's Hajj - the highlight for me. As EY are advertising for an airport manager and other sta
211 Hammerb32 : MainMAN Really can't see enough local demand for direct AI services, the Indian community around MAN is very small compared to East/West Mids and Lond
212 Post contains images ZKOJH : I would imagine when NZ are ready , it will happen, destination MAN is somewhere down the long list of possible routes, in other words not towards the
213 Post contains links KA501 : Sky Europe are set to use B737-700 equipment on flights to Krakow from 28/03/2006 Tuesday,Thursday & Saturday NE186 Arr 13.35 NE187 Dep 14.15 www.skye
214 HS748 : I've used the Jet2 service many times and it's certainly picked-up recently in terms of passenger numbers. I think the inability to book after March
215 Mattlancs : terminal 2 airside is still untidy isnt it cafes are terrible
216 BA757 : I don't think its that bad - I use it regular and it never bothers me. Ive certainly seen a lot worse. Adam
217 BA757 : Long term storage at MAN? Seems like a strange place for long term storage. Do TCX plan on returning it to service next year, or is it destined for a
218 WhiteHatter : it does look a bit of a mess! Engines off and taped up. It could be a lease termination as normally it's just baffles and ports for a winter storage.
219 Post contains images MANmatt : It was full! Got roped into staying on to check it in. Flight operated to IKA then onwards to JED as a hadj charter. The scheduled flight went out ea
220 MANmatt : Another new route for MAN MANCHESTER T1 DEPARTURES Barcelona Fri GRE2531 / GRE2532 20-Jan 24-Mar 14:50 18:00 12:25 13:50 Fri GRE2531 / GRE2532 31-Mar
221 ScottieDog : I had heard that the TCX had engines that were time expired before the next full maintenance schedule, so it was cheaper to ground the aircraft for th
222 GayrugbyMAN : Why would Air Scotland run a weekly BCN route??!!
223 Post contains images BA757 : Well it's certainly out of service at the moment, its going nowhere without engines. That was an interesting thread! I have one more question too...
224 Mhodgson : Yep, they've been doing most of them around T1 recently
225 Post contains links Myt332 : For anybody who wants to see the current condition of G-BXKB you can check out this photo I, unwittingly, took of her on the 12th. It's been cropped a
226 Post contains images WhiteHatter : They will need the space soon for all those EK 773ERs that keep breaking down. Now if it was an Airbus the cheerleaders would be raving about Airbus
227 Post contains images Myt332 : I saw that EK 77W last week. How long was it there for? I found it fairly amusing seeing it late at night while it was supposed to be EK018 at 1320! W
228 Mhodgson : Is that 2 in two weeks that have been cancelled? One last week, then one this week on the 14th?
229 WhiteHatter : Two major breakdowns needing replacement aircraft, and lots of two and three hour tech delays on the inbound for the EK017/18 The EK019/20 uses the A
230 GayrugbyMAN : An airline is apparently going to announce Bilbao and/or Santander from MAN soon, I understand from a source. Would be interesting to see who......
231 MANmatt : Perhaps this could be Vueling? They were rumoured to be looking at bilbao-manchester last year i think.
232 Speedbird19 : Just catching up, thats handy! Anyone know what equipment they use? If its a propellor job then I wont be using them when i go, I'll stick with me ZB
233 MANmatt : It will be with their sole 757 claire!
234 BA757 : Bah. Turboprops are fun. Beats an Airbus anyday. Then again thats a long time to be on a prop... Adam
235 KA501 : Boeing 757. Who wants to go to BCN for a week or one way? Or am I missing something?
236 Post contains images Speedbird19 : Niiice 757, their doing a BritishJet mission with their 1 plane, i checked out their site tho, they aren't going on my week off so I'll be booking wi
237 MANmatt : I think the company that owns (part of) Air Scotland has properties in the area and will use the flight to ship its clients out to their apartments.
238 Jetset7E7 : Matt you work for SAS don't you? Whats this strong rumour I've heard about Air France joining KLM at Ringway/SAS Ground Services? Any truth in it? I w
239 MANmatt : I do. The rumour has been doing the rounds at our offices for a while now too, but one of new dispatchers that has come over from aviance has said th
240 Jetset7E7 : I thought Mahon Air was Servisair for some reason! I had a feeling Eithad would go to Ringway/SAS. Hopefully by next summer we will take Emirates off
241 MANmatt : Mahan Air is ours. Aviance are in deep trouble, especially if AF do decide to join KLM, there was also a rumour that delta would join them. It will be
242 Concorde001 : MANmatt, I hope you don't mind me asking, but I was wondering as you work for SAS Ground Services, are you entitled to the staff travel benefits of S
243 Speedbird19 : Aviance has VLM as well, dont forget that lol I've heard the same things too, i think that VS might be a possibility.
244 GayrugbyMAN : From 26th March 2006 bmibaby may be flying from an alternative terminal at Manchester Intl Airport. If you have booked flights to travel after this da
245 Post contains images Demoose : I know you're never someone to go lightly on self praise but I actually mentioned this back in early september on your previous MAN news thread. Anyw
246 Post contains images GLAGAZ : GLA hasn't suffered any delays with the 77W yet. But we are only a couple of days into the daily service I suppose Gaz
247 MANmatt : Yes i do. Can use star alliance at the mo, then whoever accepts a SAS ticket after one years service. Have only used it once so far to go to FRA for
248 MANmatt : What happened with the AZ yet again this afternoon claire? Did one of the jumbolino's got tech in MXP yet again? Those a/c are getting a bit of a bad
249 DptMAN : Any chance of a WizzAir of Poland service with better times to WAW and a service to Gdansk would be great maybe only 2-3x/Weekly? Comments
250 GayrugbyMAN : BA are indeed relinquishing the BA branded Terminal 3 signage...what a shame Looking forward to them hopefully being demoted back to T1 and let a few
251 Post contains images Speedbird19 : I have no idea since its my days off, probably gone tech, the E-190's are proving worse than the MD-80s!!! Nice teeny planes tho
252 David_itl : Have the outbound services been busier than the inbound? Only 27 pax on the scheduled inbound tonight I gather. I imagine that BA/TH (ignoring EZ and
253 WhiteHatter : It could be interesting if MAN did a complete overhaul of gate space. Instead of messing about, get all the Star carriers into T1/3 and shunt a couple
254 Post contains images BA757 : E170 actually... I have noticed those flights been cancelled quite a lot recently too. Chances are I will get stung on Friday with a cancellation and
255 MANmatt : Not sure how many came inabound last night but things are going really well, and from what i hear, advance bookings are looking good well into the ne
256 Post contains images Speedbird19 : Sorry, few glasses of wine too many last nite Depends what's going on at MXP too, a lot have been canx recently due to the weather there, others beca
257 David_itl : Anyone knows what the deal is with VG610 from Cologne? It's operated for a fair number of weeks on Sundays, notionally using T2 nut normally parking 1
258 GayrugbyMAN : Are BMI Regional to start services from Manchester to Basel/Mulhouse using an embraer this summer........I wonder.........
259 Post contains images Jetset7E7 : Air Atlanta are to merge into Excel from April I think, so they will move over to T2 I gather. Can't see TCX moving over, be no room in the morning,
260 Post contains images BA757 : Just about sums up Milan and Italy that! Adam
261 Candid76 : Correct. For a German travel agent - I've quoted for this job in the past.
262 MANmatt : This would explain why on sundays when BW990 arrive i have to check-in a load of german tourist who have come into MAN from BGI and are travelling on
263 Jiminyman : Cathy Pacific has a contract still with Servisair/GlobeGround, so handling of pax will be with them when ops commence, I would imagine. As for Excel/A
264 GayrugbyMAN : EK to move to T2 in March. CX and EY to use T1. BD and WW to move to T3, and Meridiana also, apparently.
265 Post contains links and images BA757 : Oh yes..and where will they be flying too, then? View Large View MediumPhoto © Simone Mucciarini Adam[Edited 2005-12-20 14:59:47]
266 GayrugbyMAN : Cagliari and Olbia I am told, using MD somethings!
267 BA757 : I hope so! OLB would sure be nice! I really wish we would see some kind of FCO service on either AZ or IG to MAN aswell. Adam
268 Jetset7E7 : How true is this Meridian then, don't mean to be rude but never heard of them! Mark
269 Speedbird19 : I'm with Jetset7E7, whos Meridian??? This is the first thing I've heard about them operating out of MAN...
270 Post contains images Elagabal : IIRC, wizzAir operate from Poland, but are a Hungarian company. Check out their website - very interesting network,serviced across the EU on a Hungar
271 Post contains links BA757 : Meridiana is an Italian airline. They fly A319 and MD's. I believe the only other airport they serve in the UK is LGW. Edit. I have copied this from
272 Candid76 : Well I'll keep my fingers crossed for Meridiana. Some of the very few MD80s in Europe that I need are with them.
273 Post contains images BA757 : Can we consider a new thread next time we have some worthy news to start one with? This thread is really starting to drag on my dialup out here, and m
274 BA757 : Why was the second thread deleted? I don't normally moan about stuff like this but that was uncalled for! This thread should have been locked and the
275 Mhodgson : I suspect it was because: There was no new news. It had been started with just a 'continue here', then 4 posts asking why start the thread with no ne
276 ScottieDog : Appears Air Wales (6G) will be starting a Rennes/Manchester service in the summer - see their website for full details. Aircraft arrives 1350 with a p
277 Christa : Also a PLH-MAN service operated by Air Wales..
278 DptMAN : Seems Air Wales are launching some strange routs lately. I doubt we'll be seeing Air Wales for much longer? dptMAN
279 Post contains links DptMAN : New Thread Manchester News UK 2 now created for the sake dialup users wishing to view the Manchester Thread. Please click the link to the new MAN thre
280 Christa : I fear the same..
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