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User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2887 posts, RR: 6
Posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3433 times:

Service to start immediately thru Oct. 31 if granted. Probably to airlift those stranded by Wilma.

http://dms.dot.gov/search/document.c...m?documentid=360843&docketid=22839

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User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 45
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3364 times:

It's an exemption request more specifically allowing replacement service to MID since CUN is closed.


redngold



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User currently offlineF9fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 695 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3084 times:

The USDOT granted F9 verbal authority to fly this route. Local news in Denver carried interviews with some passengers. Good PR for F9 tonight, not only with DEN, but they are able to transfer people throughout their network.

F9Fan


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21416 posts, RR: 60
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3027 times:

Quoting Redngold (Reply 1):
It's an exemption request more specifically allowing replacement service to MID since CUN is closed.

Yep, there are all sorts of news stories about people being driven the 150 miles to MID and then getting flights out, and that F9 had flown there to pick people up who were booked on F9 out of CUN.



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User currently offlineFlyHoss From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 598 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2927 times:

CO normally serves IAH-MID 3 times a week (IIRC), but has flown several additional trips, for relief/evacuation purposes, in the last few days, including at least two 757-200 round trips. The flights to MID have carried food and water for employees. CO is giving preference to CO passengers from CUN and CZM. As I understand it, the (U.S.A.) State Department arranged for bus travel from CUN to MID.


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21416 posts, RR: 60
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2901 times:

Quoting FlyHoss (Reply 4):
As I understand it, the (U.S.A.) State Department arranged for bus travel from CUN to MID.

Yes, but some in CUN are griping that the US should already have rented out cruise ships to pick them up.

Of course, considering the Carnival scandal going on right now, and the timeframe, that's a bit unlikely, but when you are stuck in a bad situation like that and probably totally oblivious to news outside your own life (even before the vacation), it makes perfect sense.

There is a reason that Yucatan vacations are cheapest during Hurricane season...



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User currently offlineFalcon flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2815 times:

Several carriers operated out of Merida that don't normally do. Sun Country has even scheduled trips out of Chichen Itza, did everybody require exemptions ?


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User currently offlineFRA2DTW From Germany, joined Feb 2004, 322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2677 times:

North American Airlines has three 757 roundtrips JFK-MID today and probably more throughout the week.

User currently offlineChiGB1973 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1612 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2248 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 5):
Yes, but some in CUN are griping that the US should already have rented out cruise ships to pick them up.

What? They didn't know it was coming. They decided to stay (or even begin the trip) with the knowledge. I guess since they went ahead and decided on the trip, they are pretty ignorant anyway. I guess when you buy a non-refundable ticket and no trip insurance, then you have the right to gripe?

M


User currently offlineAcho From Mexico, joined Jan 2004, 339 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2214 times:

From what I have heard CUN is a disater. From what i saw there is tourists stranded in roadblocks outside CUN. People without paper tickets are not allowed into the airports premises (people with e-tickets). Aparently the charter terminal at CUN was destroyed (I saw it on the news).

Good look to all the vistors stranded in what was beutiful Cancun.


User currently offlineBHMBAGLOCK From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2698 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2180 times:

Quoting Acho (Reply 9):
From what I have heard CUN is a disater. From what i saw there is tourists stranded in roadblocks outside CUN. People without paper tickets are not allowed into the airports premises (people with e-tickets). Aparently the charter terminal at CUN was destroyed (I saw it on the news).

Not true. Just saw a feature on the news about a local couple coming back from their honeymoon from CUN. It included a picture of handwritten tickets for each of them that the airline created at the airport since there was no power. Unfortunately they did not show enough to tell which airline they were flying.



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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13255 posts, RR: 62
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2104 times:
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Quoting FlyHoss (Reply 4):
CO is giving preference to CO passengers from CUN and CZM.

There's no problem with that though - the airline should give priority to their own ticketed customers first and foremost.

AS has given a blanket endorsement to CO to accept CUN passengers from CUN/CZM/MID on a standby basis until further notice, but ticketed CO passengers have priority.



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User currently offlineWjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 4970 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2064 times:

Quoting FRA2DTW (Reply 7):
North American Airlines has three 757 roundtrips JFK-MID today and probably more throughout the week.

Intriguingly, these 3 were flown under the Thos. Cook callsign. AND, they departed WAY late. Given that they arrived at MID on time, I'm guessing that the delay occurred on the ground there, or, alternatively, waiting for pax. I'm not sure why the Thos. Cook callsign; they are continuing to England and so apparently are evacuating British citizens -- perhaps it's easier to get the clearances if they operate as Thos. Cook subservice.

--Bill


User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24638 posts, RR: 86
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2036 times:
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Quoting Wjcandee (Reply 12):
perhaps it's easier to get the clearances if they operate as Thos. Cook subservice.

I'm confused here. Does it make a difference (either for US or British companies) if the flghts operate under the charter provisions?

On the DMS website, Frontier is the only US airline to apply for - and receive - emergency authority to fly to MID as a scheduled carrier.

Continental has scheduled rights to MID already, but American is planning at lest one flight there.

And I don't think American already holds traffic rights for DFW/MID? Maybe.

cheers

mariner



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User currently offlineWjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 4970 posts, RR: 18
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2028 times:

Quoting Mariner (Reply 13):
I'm confused here

Perhaps I should have said that perhaps Thos. Cook already has the appropriate rights and thus NAA operated under their callsign? Perhaps I shouldn't have speculated as to the reason and just asked the question. So...anybody know why they'd operate as Thos. Cook rather than as NAA on that contract?


User currently offlineAcho From Mexico, joined Jan 2004, 339 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1964 times:

Quoting BHMBAGLOCK (Reply 10):
Not true. Just saw a feature on the news about a local couple coming back from their honeymoon from CUN. It included a picture of handwritten tickets for each of them that the airline created at the airport since there was no power.

Today I saw a feature on the news here in mexico (Televisa), where the PFP (Mexican Police) had roadblocks requiring passengers to show tickets to access the CUN terminal, interview a passengers with e-tickets. Perhaps the couple featured has a ticket issued outside the airport (the airlines checked in people in schools outside CUN)

Regards


User currently offlineBHMBAGLOCK From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2698 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1825 times:

Quoting Acho (Reply 15):
Today I saw a feature on the news here in mexico (Televisa), where the PFP (Mexican Police) had roadblocks requiring passengers to show tickets to access the CUN terminal, interview a passengers with e-tickets. Perhaps the couple featured has a ticket issued outside the airport (the airlines checked in people in schools outside CUN)

Regards

I'm not sure but the thing that matters is that somehow people are adapting and getting the job done.

Insurance companies typically maintain pre-configured "disaster kits" including computers, generators, and other equipment needed to operate in such conditions. Perhaps airlines would do well to consider similar contingency plans. It wouldn't cost much money to maintain a few pallets with the appropriate equipment and supplies ready to be shipped out when needed.



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