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Is There Ever Going To Be A LAX-BTR?  
User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3233 times:

Is the ever going to be a LAX-BTR flight?? I was wondering that because there is no n/s flight and whata are the chances?? Maybe AE or UAX?? seasonal, most likely RJ flight though  Smile


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3155 times:

Quoting MD90fan (Thread starter):
Maybe AE or UAX?? seasonal, most likely RJ flight though

An RJ couldn't make that flight

Quoting MD90fan (Thread starter):
Is the ever going to be a LAX-BTR flight?? I was wondering that because there is no n/s flight and whata are the chances??

It is highly unlikely LAX-BTR will ever be served non-stop. LAX-MSY will be back soon enough, either on UA, WN or both, but BTR wont happen.


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User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3133 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 1):
Quoting MD90fan (Thread starter):
Maybe AE or UAX?? seasonal, most likely RJ flight though

An RJ couldn't make that flight

Something like a ERJ-145XR couldnt make it?? the circle mapper shows LAX-BTR as 1600 nm, and the XR has a 2000nm range so why can' it make it  Confused
headwinds or something??


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3123 times:

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 2):
Something like a ERJ-145XR couldnt make it?? the circle mapper shows LAX-BTR as 1600 nm, and the XR has a 2000nm range so why can' it make it
headwinds or something??

Yes, perhaps the ERJ-145XR would be the only RJ capable of the routing, but it would have the most disgusting CASM on the face of the earth. Additionally, the airlines that fly it neither hub nor focus at LAX or BTR


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31118 posts, RR: 73
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3126 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 3):
Quoting MD90fan (Reply 2):
Something like a ERJ-145XR couldnt make it?? the circle mapper shows LAX-BTR as 1600 nm, and the XR has a 2000nm range so why can' it make it
headwinds or something??

Yes, perhaps the ERJ-145XR would be the only RJ capable of the routing, but it would have the most disgusting CASM on the face of the earth. Additionally, the airlines that fly it neither hub nor focus at LAX or BTR

A CRJ-705 can make it easily. AC uses those on YYC-IAH and, during the off season, YYZ-PHX.


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3106 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 4):
A CRJ-705 can make it easily. AC uses those on YYC-IAH and, during the off season, YYZ-PHX.

Interesting. Still, what carrier would have the CRJ-705 and fly the route?


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31118 posts, RR: 73
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3111 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 5):
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 4):
A CRJ-705 can make it easily. AC uses those on YYC-IAH and, during the off season, YYZ-PHX.

Interesting. Still, what carrier would have the CRJ-705 and fly the route?

I agree with you there, nobody would fly it and nobody will fly it anytime soon. Though I also believe a CRJ-900 can make the route, and US Airways Express will have those soon enough.


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3091 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 6):
I agree with you there, nobody would fly it and nobody will fly it anytime soon. Though I also believe a CRJ-900 can make the route, and US Airways Express will have those soon enough.

Surprisingly, it can. Then again, the CASM is still not great for that route, and HP/US would likely not start with BTR if they wanted to refocus at LAX


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User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3083 times:

Maybe UAX ExPlus CRJ-700?


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31118 posts, RR: 73
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3088 times:

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 8):
Maybe UAX ExPlus CRJ-700?

No, it isn't going to happen. There is no substainable market. United Express doesn't fly to Baton Rouge from any airport.


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User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3076 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 9):
No, it isn't going to happen. There is no substainable market. United Express doesn't fly to Baton Rouge from any airport.

I remembered they were weak in Louisiana  Sad


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3054 times:

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 10):
I remembered they were weak in Louisiana

Actually, pre-Katrina, UA had a strong schedule to all of its hubs. At least 2 flights per day to all 5, with 3 to LAX, at least 3 to ORD and 3 to IAD. Even now, UA is back with 1 735 to ORD (switching to 2 E170s), 1 Ted A320 to DEN (switching to 2 735s), and 1 A319 to IAD. SFO wont be back for a while, but UA's success on LAX-MSY previously leads one to believe they wont stay away for long. This is not bad considering UA is not considered strong in the South.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 9):
United Express doesn't fly to Baton Rouge from any airport.

Whatever happened to the ORD-BTR flight that was strongly rumored to be coming from UA?


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31118 posts, RR: 73
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3040 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 11):
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 9):
United Express doesn't fly to Baton Rouge from any airport.

Whatever happened to the ORD-BTR flight that was strongly rumored to be coming from UA?

United, along with a handful of others, did look for gatespace at BTR, but nothing every happened. Following Katrina, AA almost immediately began twice daily ORD-BTR service with ERJ-145s, and it will be upgraded to two daily CRJ-700s in November, so they have the market tied up pretty well. AA used to fly ORD-BTR until April 2002. It was one of the routes that was discontinued to satisfy the pilot unions.


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3033 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 12):
AA used to fly ORD-BTR until April 2002. It was one of the routes that was discontinued to satisfy the pilot unions.

Was it a scope issue? If it was, why not just use ERDs?

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 12):
Following Katrina, AA almost immediately began twice daily ORD-BTR service with ERJ-145s

That was quite bright of them


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User currently offlineTravelin man From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 7 months 23 hours ago) and read 2975 times:

LAX-BTR would be only slightly longer (200 miles or so) than American Eagle's LAX-XNA flight with the CRJ700. LAX-BTR may not have as high a demand (i.e. no Asia-Arkansas Wal-Mart Express), but it certainly seems feasible.

User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2870 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 11):
Actually, pre-Katrina, UA had a strong schedule to all of its hubs. At least 2 flights per day to all 5, with 3 to LAX, at least 3 to ORD and 3 to IAD. Even now, UA is back with 1 735 to ORD (switching to 2 E170s), 1 Ted A320 to DEN (switching to 2 735s), and 1 A319 to IAD. SFO wont be back for a while, but UA's success on LAX-MSY previously leads one to believe they wont stay away for long. This is not bad considering UA is not considered strong in the South.

Sorry, I meant outside of MSY  Smile


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 21029 posts, RR: 60
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2832 times:

COex flies ERJs from IAH-LAX/SNA/ONT from time to time. BTR is barely further.


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79
Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2790 times:

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 15):
Sorry, I meant outside of MSY

New Orleans was, and will be, the only real major market in the state. Baton Rouge will keep a nice chunk of its new population (though no more than half), and will likely keep a bit of the new service, but the market that needed air transport was New Orleans. Otherwise, people could drive to New Orleans or there were other airports to absorb the cachement

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 16):
COex flies ERJs from IAH-LAX/SNA/ONT from time to time

CO does not fly IAH-LAX with the ERJ. IAH-SNA does not go on ERJs, rather all 737s and 757s. Actually, SNA-IAH may face some restriction on the ERJ, even on the 145XR, based on the field performance specs from Embraer. IAH-ONT has seen the ERJ, though it is all 737s currently.


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