Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Airbus Expect 50 Chinese A350 Orders In 2006  
User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4217 posts, RR: 89
Posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4555 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
COMMUNITY MANAGER

According to an interview from Mr Humbert and Mr Leahy they expect to sell 50 to 60 A350s to China over the next 12 months.

Oct. 26 (Bloomberg) -- Airbus SAS, the world's biggest maker of commercial planes, said China's airlines may buy 50 to 60 of its A350 aircraft in the next 12 months, as it steps up a push to sell its latest model to keep a sales lead over Boeing Co.
Airbus has commitments for 143 of the A350 model and is aiming to sell 200 by the end of 2005. The manufacturer, based in Toulouse, France, is in talks with three Asian airlines to buy the 257- to 297 seat plane, said Airbus Chief Executive Gustav Humbert, declining to give details.
``The category of A330 and A350 planes is ideally suited to the demands of China,'' said Airbus Chief Commercial Officer John Leahy, in an interview today in Tokyo. ``A lot of A330s have been sold in the Chinese market'' and ``I would expect to have 50 to 60 orders for the A350s in the next 12 months,'' he said


I assume that Mr Humbert is referring to SQ, QF & CX as some of the Asian carriers they could be talking to. Be interesting to see which Chinese carriers order the A350. Given their need for capacity I don't think too many recent A330 orders will be converted to A350s

Regards, PanAm_DC10


Ask the impossible to achieve the best possible
18 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4505 times:

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Thread starter):
According to an interview from Mr Humbert and Mr Leahy they expect to sell 50 to 60 A350s to China over the next 12

Well that is quite some goal. It will be interesting to see if hey can pull this one off.

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Thread starter):

I assume that Mr Humbert is referring to SQ, QF & CX as some of the Asian carriers they could be talking to.

He could also be referring to the following,

Philippine Airlines
Malaysian Airlines
Thai Airways
Garuda Airlines

Regards,
Wings



Aviation Is A Passion.
User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4217 posts, RR: 89
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4492 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
COMMUNITY MANAGER

Quoting WINGS (Reply 1):
He could also be referring to the following,

Philippine Airlines
Malaysian Airlines
Thai Airways
Garuda Airlines

Hi Wings I'd rule out PAL as they're on record as needing A340 or B777s and also Garuda who have committed to 10 + 10 B787s. The Government of Indonesia has just confirmed financing for their 787 order too. I think Thai and MAS are good candidate's too.

Regards, PanAm_DC10



Ask the impossible to achieve the best possible
User currently offlineJet-lagged From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 877 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4352 times:

Not too big a surprise. China will split their dollars for 787/A350s, to mess with both players.

It will be interesting if any manufacturing outsourcing is announced at some later date.


User currently offlineN79969 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4352 times:

Quoting WINGS (Reply 1):
Well that is quite some goal. It will be interesting to see if hey can pull this one off.

I do not think it will be hard for them to meet at all. Unless things have changed recently, all aircraft purchases in China are centralized through a single company which is run through the political apparatus. Since the Chinese have signed up for 50 787, I think a comparably sized A350 is a near-sure bet.

I think some of the outsourcing has been announced.

[Edited 2005-10-26 14:44:23]

User currently offlineBoeingBus From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1597 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4338 times:

Quoting Jet-lagged (Reply 3):
Not too big a surprise. China will split their dollars for 787/A350s, to mess with both players.

Exactly. It's more in the lines if the A350 didnt get the 50 orders from China... than Airbus is doing something wrong.

This is very expected and its another sensational news story at time when there isn't much going on. Just my 2 cents.



Airbus or Boeing - it's all good to me!
User currently offlineMidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4091 times:

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Thread starter):
Airbus has commitments for 143 of the A350 model and is aiming to sell 200 by the end of 2005.

I thought that Airbus was not going to sell 200 A350's by the end of the year?



NO URLS in signature
User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3928 times:

Is that good to mention? What if those Chinese carriers change their minds? They have not placed an order, just showing interest, or current trends show a need for several aircraft that fits A350's current specs. Everybody shows interest in something at any one time. That's like Boeing showing off Virgin's interest in SC...


The meaning of life is curiosity; we were put on this planet to explore opportunities.
User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6993 posts, RR: 63
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3872 times:

Chinese airlines have placed in quite recent times broadly comparable numbers of orders for 787s and A330s. It would be interesting if they followed with a substantial order for A350s. Numerically, if nothing else, that would give Airbus something of an edge - not least since the 767 has never been popular in China. Interesting.

User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2977 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3713 times:

What's John Leahy doing in Tokyo, trying to sell the A350 to a Japanese carrier? No way that's ever going to happen.
A380 is still a possibility with JL.
A320 is a possibility at some of the LCCs.

Quoting PM (Reply 8):
not least since the 767 has never been popular in China.

FM, CA, MU, & HU all operate 767s. The number may not be huge but its competitor AB6 & 310 operate with only MU & CZ in combined smaller numbers than 767s.
It's really only been since the late 1990s that Chinese carriers have started to build up its widebody fleet.


User currently offlineShenzhen From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 1712 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3629 times:

Will these materialize before all the A380 orders in China, or after. Seems like every time Airbus launch a new product (last couple), they point to all the orders the Chinese will make in the near future.

I was talking with a Chinese airline that are being courted by both Boeing and Airbus for the 787/A350, and all they wanted to talk about was the 787.

Before I get slammed, I'll admit now that anything can happen  Smile

Cheers


User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3573 times:

I read somewhere (do not remember where) that the Chinese airlines are not ready yet to order planes , to be delivered after the Olympic games.
Seems too early to speak about an A350 Chinese order.


User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4217 posts, RR: 89
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3537 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
COMMUNITY MANAGER

Quoting Carpethead (Reply 9):
What's John Leahy doing in Tokyo, trying to sell the A350 to a Japanese carrier? No way that's ever going to happen.

While A350 orders may not be expected from Japanese carriers Mr Humbert and Mr Leahy finalised the outsourcing of 3% of the A350 production to Japanese Industrial firms at the same time. They're doing business, just not selling airplanes to them.

Regards, PanAm_DC10



Ask the impossible to achieve the best possible
User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25690 posts, RR: 85
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3509 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

Quoting Carpethead (Reply 9):
What's John Leahy doing in Tokyo, trying to sell the A350 to a Japanese carrier? No way that's ever going to happen.

So what are you saying, that Airbus shouldn't even try? That they should just roll over, play dead and let Boeing have the market?

cheers

mariner



aeternum nauta
User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 22
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3483 times:

This is what John Leahy is doing in Tokyo.

http://www.airbus.com/en/presscentre...10_26_05_executive_forum_2005.html



SUPPORT THE LEBANESE CIVILIANS
User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2977 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3459 times:

Quoting Mariner (Reply 13):
So what are you saying, that Airbus shouldn't even try? That they should just roll over, play dead and let Boeing have the market?

Unfortunate or fortunately that is the case with the big two in regards to the 100+ seat aircraft category purchases.

Quoting Manni (Reply 14):

Probably some contracts awarded for interior work and composite materials. This is where some of the smaller Japanese firms have good expertise.


User currently offlinePHXinterrupted From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 474 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3350 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 8):
Chinese airlines have placed in quite recent times broadly comparable numbers of orders for 787s and A330s. It would be interesting if they followed with a substantial order for A350s. Numerically, if nothing else, that would give Airbus something of an edge - not least since the 767 has never been popular in China. Interesting.

Of course you don't mention the obvious in that the 330 has been for sale a lot longer than the 787. Typical.



Keepin' it real.
User currently offlineN79969 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3331 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 8):
Numerically, if nothing else, that would give Airbus something of an edge - not least since the 767 has never been popular in China.

The Chinese have been operating B767 for quite a while and the fleet is not particularly small. If you ever visit Beijing, you will see quite a few 767.


User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25690 posts, RR: 85
Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3313 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

Quoting Carpethead (Reply 15):
Unfortunate or fortunately that is the case with the big two in regards to the 100+ seat aircraft category purchases.

What is the case? That the Japanese have not bought any from Airbus?

Okay. Does that mean that Airbus should even try? That they should not continue to inform the Japanese of their product line and build relationships for a possible future?

If nothing else, it's a tax write-off, it doesn't cost 'em anything and they get to eat some good sushi.

cheers

mariner



aeternum nauta
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Airbus Expects Slump In Jet Orders In 2006 posted Wed Feb 22 2006 11:11:32 by BestWestern
Possible A380 Orders In 2006 posted Sat May 13 2006 10:57:51 by WINGS
No 777 Orders In 2006? posted Fri May 5 2006 11:44:57 by Cuprita
Airbus Reiterates "200 A350 Orders By Year-end" posted Fri Nov 11 2005 16:48:15 by Joni
Airbus: 50 A350 Orders By Mid-2005 posted Sat Dec 11 2004 16:49:27 by The Shadow
Airbus Receives 4 Orders In September. posted Fri Oct 6 2006 19:40:00 by WINGS
Airbus Is On Track For Record Deliveries In 2006 posted Tue Aug 8 2006 17:41:19 by Leelaw
Airbus Will Sell 78 Planes In China In 2006 posted Tue Nov 15 2005 22:36:43 by FCKC
Airbus Books First A350 Orders! posted Wed Nov 9 2005 19:27:25 by Scbriml
Airbus : 200 A350 Orders By End-2005 posted Tue Jun 14 2005 11:41:16 by Keesje