PanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4096 posts, RR: 90 Posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4368 times:
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According to an interview from Mr Humbert and Mr Leahy they expect to sell 50 to 60 A350s to China over the next 12 months.
Oct. 26 (Bloomberg) -- Airbus SAS, the world's biggest maker of commercial planes, said China's airlines may buy 50 to 60 of its A350 aircraft in the next 12 months, as it steps up a push to sell its latest model to keep a sales lead over Boeing Co.
Airbus has commitments for 143 of the A350 model and is aiming to sell 200 by the end of 2005. The manufacturer, based in Toulouse, France, is in talks with three Asian airlines to buy the 257- to 297 seat plane, said Airbus Chief Executive Gustav Humbert, declining to give details.
``The category of A330 and A350 planes is ideally suited to the demands of China,'' said Airbus Chief Commercial Officer John Leahy, in an interview today in Tokyo. ``A lot of A330s have been sold in the Chinese market'' and ``I would expect to have 50 to 60 orders for the A350s in the next 12 months,'' he said
I assume that Mr Humbert is referring to SQ, QF & CX as some of the Asian carriers they could be talking to. Be interesting to see which Chinese carriers order the A350. Given their need for capacity I don't think too many recent A330 orders will be converted to A350s
Hi Wings I'd rule out PAL as they're on record as needing A340 or B777s and also Garuda who have committed to 10 + 10 B787s. The Government of Indonesia has just confirmed financing for their 787 order too. I think Thai and MAS are good candidate's too.
N79969 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4165 times:
Quoting WINGS (Reply 1): Well that is quite some goal. It will be interesting to see if hey can pull this one off.
I do not think it will be hard for them to meet at all. Unless things have changed recently, all aircraft purchases in China are centralized through a single company which is run through the political apparatus. Since the Chinese have signed up for 50 787, I think a comparably sized A350 is a near-sure bet.
I think some of the outsourcing has been announced.
Lehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3741 times:
Is that good to mention? What if those Chinese carriers change their minds? They have not placed an order, just showing interest, or current trends show a need for several aircraft that fits A350's current specs. Everybody shows interest in something at any one time. That's like Boeing showing off Virgin's interest in SC...
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PM From India, joined Feb 2005, 6840 posts, RR: 64
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3685 times:
Chinese airlines have placed in quite recent times broadly comparable numbers of orders for 787s and A330s. It would be interesting if they followed with a substantial order for A350s. Numerically, if nothing else, that would give Airbus something of an edge - not least since the 767 has never been popular in China. Interesting.
Carpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2910 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3526 times:
What's John Leahy doing in Tokyo, trying to sell the A350 to a Japanese carrier? No way that's ever going to happen.
A380 is still a possibility with JL.
A320 is a possibility at some of the LCCs.
Quoting PM (Reply 8): not least since the 767 has never been popular in China.
FM, CA, MU, & HU all operate 767s. The number may not be huge but its competitor AB6 & 310 operate with only MU & CZ in combined smaller numbers than 767s.
It's really only been since the late 1990s that Chinese carriers have started to build up its widebody fleet.
Shenzhen From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 1706 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3442 times:
Will these materialize before all the A380 orders in China, or after. Seems like every time Airbus launch a new product (last couple), they point to all the orders the Chinese will make in the near future.
I was talking with a Chinese airline that are being courted by both Boeing and Airbus for the 787/A350, and all they wanted to talk about was the 787.
Before I get slammed, I'll admit now that anything can happen
PanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4096 posts, RR: 90
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3350 times:
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Quoting Carpethead (Reply 9): What's John Leahy doing in Tokyo, trying to sell the A350 to a Japanese carrier? No way that's ever going to happen.
While A350 orders may not be expected from Japanese carriers Mr Humbert and Mr Leahy finalised the outsourcing of 3% of the A350 production to Japanese Industrial firms at the same time. They're doing business, just not selling airplanes to them.
PHXinterrupted From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 474 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3163 times:
Quoting PM (Reply 8): Chinese airlines have placed in quite recent times broadly comparable numbers of orders for 787s and A330s. It would be interesting if they followed with a substantial order for A350s. Numerically, if nothing else, that would give Airbus something of an edge - not least since the 767 has never been popular in China. Interesting.
Of course you don't mention the obvious in that the 330 has been for sale a lot longer than the 787. Typical.