Flyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 11717 times:
darn, no luck on more burbank service, was wondering how the sat flights to midway were doing and if well enough, if they would add daily service. anybody been on the bur-mdw flight here or know how well it has performed
I am really out of the loop - I'm very surprised at the frequencies that will exist in these markets. I know WN is big in OAK, BNA, LAS, etc, but I guess I didn't realize how big BNA had become, let alone OAK.
Pretty impressive. One cool thing about WN is that, if it were one of the majors, each new route would have started from one of two or three hub airports in their system. Not knocking their system, but WN offers routes that most other airlines won't touch (or offer).
Next Trip: SEA-ORD-DSM on United/OMA-DEN-SEA on Southwest
I was always surprised that route didn't already exist (instead being run by Champion charters in a 727!!) Maybe this was a move aimed at heading off the new US since they already run to PHX in "big" CRJ's.
Quoting Vega (Reply 6): Strange there is no additional PIT service (other than the PHL flight). How is WN doing there? I thought they'd be ramping up more by now.
They just ramped up by over half at PIT about a month ago or so. Post Katrina. 6 new flights I believed... most of which were originally scheduled to not be starting until about now, were started as soon as the MSY disaster's effects became clear. Places like TPA, PHX, and more frequencies on the other routes.
With all the PIT-PHL shuttles running now, you'd think the PA Turnpike Commission would be feeling the pinch, lol.
Wnsocal From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 129 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 10827 times:
Quoting PVD757 (Reply 17): remember, WN doesn't usually announce any cutbacks, so this is only part of the story...
If you listened to the 3Q report then you would have heard Kelly say there are about 5 of the MSY aircraft not accounted for in the schedule. He said WN used about 15 airplanes for the pre hurricane schedule. Also, WN already had BA delieveries scheduled. So it look like all this adds up to 50 flight plus DEN.
PVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3444 posts, RR: 16
Reply 22, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 10811 times:
Quoting Wnsocal (Reply 21): If you listened to the 3Q report then you would have heard Kelly say there are about 5 of the MSY aircraft not accounted for in the schedule. He said WN used about 15 airplanes for the pre hurricane schedule. Also, WN already had BA delieveries scheduled. So it look like all this adds up to 50 flight plus DEN.
I'm sure with all those MSY additions on 2/5/06, all of the "displaced" aircraft will be accounted for.
Tom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 31
Reply 24, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 10738 times:
Nice to see WN setting themselves up to retake the number one slot here at MSY. The loads have been superb out of here, and any and all increase in service can only bode well for the area, the airline, and the airport.
Tom at MSY
"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
: I really like this quote from the press release.... ""We are especially pleased to see demand increasing in New Orleans," said Rogge. "Our load factor
: note on the press release from WN where they list the additional flights beginning February 5, 2006: "(due to schedule adjustments)" ...this is not a
: No OAK-IND yet (filler...filler...filler)
: I love this...first two thoughts. On OKC-LAS... I think Allegiant will do fine, but the market is filling up. Champion is running 4 weekly 727 flights
: I was hoping for more BUR longhaul service (additional MDW, HOU, ISP, MHT), anyone know the total of WN flights from BUR now, and what it ranks within
: Just look at what WN announced today---49 new flights while the legacy carriers are cutting back......For 34 years folks have been saying: "this canno
: Midwest has a better product and they start next week. 20 flights? Let's not clog up the California Corridor.
: Started with 10 dailies in May, this 7th Philly run makes 20 dailies in 7 months...thats a pretty damn good expansion rate =) "Due to schedule adjust
: There will be minimal reductions. The increase in service is coming primarily from new a/c (and no retirements), the reduction of MSY service, and mo
: Yea we got alot more PIT service, though with this change. We got the additional Philly runs. Plus; New: 1x TPA 1x PHX -ATCT
: Several cuts notices so far...im sure there are alot more PVD gains LAS, looses MCI and 1x BNA MHT looses both BNA flights ( no more non stop) BDL is
: Funny. I don't see Continental "running like hell." Sure they're doing International, because they're making a boatload of money on it. Quit drinking
: One tiny battle that looks to be won (or at least forced to a draw) by US defending their turf. Cheaper seats yes, definitely, but are you trying to
: Of course not, I was only refering to the domestic market in general. Midwest is a great airline, and consistantly meets the safe and reliable criter
: Southwest just keeps digging themselves into a hole, what I mean by that is just in one article, they said that capacity in the US needs to be reduced
: WN doesn't do seasonal adjustments. WN also VERY rarely reduces frequesncies or drops markets when compared to every other airline and when compared
: Burnsie: I'm not sure I follow the "loss of respect for them" argument. Here's the bottom line. Right now fares are low. Demand for seats, however, se
: Oh ok. I was conceding WN as cheaper than Midwest, at least most routes, just a little misunderstanding there on both ends. Sorry. I keep wanting to
: TxAgKuwait: Thanks for that intelligent response to Burnsie.... You see Burnsie, you need to understand how business works and how business plans play
: Excellent reply TxAgKuwait. Airlines who can make money on lower fares can and should add capacity where they can profit from it. Southwest indeed is
: Looks like both ISP-BNA flights were cut.....or you could say both got reassigned to MDW.
: STL loses one flight to MDW,MCO, and two to HOU. So really there is no additional frequencies added to the schedule it will stay the same at 63 daily.
: I think the implication was "the carriers in bankruptcy and/or losing their shirts" should be reducing capacity, while the carriers that are making a
: People care about product. That "head to head" you speak of was with a "like" coach product and a losing cost structure for US. Midwest has a better
: Well to update the MCI situation, here is what I found: MCI will lose all N/S service to PVD and SLC. MCI will lose 1x daily to ABQ (dropping it from
: Now thats funny, "pay for the product". Midwest has not reported a profitable quarter since Q3 03, not a profitable year since 2000. Also, Midwest is
: I guess if all you can afford is Southwest you wouldn't know what you were missing.
: Or, perhaps people that CAN afford almost anything would rather fly Southwest, get a reasonable value for their airfare dollars, have a comfortable s