YULWinterSkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2145 posts, RR: 6 Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1536 times:
Quoting TGV (Reply 3): PTV are standard on the 340, but not on the 744 (only 3 are equipped in the main cabin).
Don't you get the new PTVs on the NEV-configured 340s (with on-demand games etc...) and the "old" PTVs on the 3-class 340?
I guess the 744 with PTVs also have the new ones (the a/c are F-GITH/I/J, delivered in 2003/2004)
By the way, what are the different seat configs on the 744? And which routes are they flying?
I compiled : CIO (Carib. Indian Ocean + YUL in summer) w/ 9J and 4??Y w/o PTV in Y except upper deck sold as alizee (kind of upgraded Y). F-GITA/GITF.
2 class 40J/393Y (I think the new GITH/I/J fall in that category)
3 class 17F/58J/327Y w/o PTV.
Flpuck6 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2120 posts, RR: 31 Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1399 times:
Quoting YULWinterSkies (Reply 4): Don't you get the new PTVs on the NEV-configured 340s (with on-demand games etc...) and the "old" PTVs on the 3-class 340?
The PTVs on the A340s, whether it's NEV or not, are all the same.
Quoting YULWinterSkies (Reply 4): 2 class 40J/393Y (I think the new GITH/I/J fall in that category)
3 class 17F/58J/327Y w/o PTV.
the 40J 393Y versions are on several 744 a/c now, including ITJ, but -GITH and -GITI were the last 2 delievered in the 3-class configuration. The three-class configured 744s are: 13P 58J 324Y and they have PTV in Y.
So to resume the different 744 configurations are:
13P 58J 324Y
Quoting TGV (Reply 3): Quoting Flpuck6 (Reply 1):
PTV's are standard
PTV are standard on the 340, but not on the 744 (only 3 are equipped in the main cabin).
So it will depend on the 744 used on your flight.
Yes, I was referring to the quality of the PTV (size of screen, programming offered), but you are right TGV, to precise that PTVs are not standard across the entire 744 fleet.
TGV From France, joined Dec 2004, 872 posts, RR: 21 Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1360 times:
I guess I have not been clear, as I used the word "standard" with the meaning "used on all the fleet", while Flpuck6 used it (and before me, I should have read more carefully!) meaning "old PTV model".
To summarize: there are 3 744 with PTV in all Eco seats, and these are the 3 newest planes. This corresponds to the upper left picture in the first post.
On the older planes there is no PTV in Eco if they have the old 3 class config 13P 58J 324Y (we have one of these on the CDG-CCS flights, quite a downgrade from our previous 340!). This corresponds to the lower picture in the first post.
With the 2 class NEV config, (40J 393Y) the upper deck Eco cabin has PTV, but not the main cabin. This corresponds to the upper right picture in the first post.
FlySSC explained in another thread that this was due to wiring and weight problems when refurbishing older aircraft: the wiring was there in the upper cabin (as it was previously a business cabin with PTVs), but not in the main cabin.
[Edited 2005-10-28 11:31:46]
Avoid 777 with 3-4-3 config in Y ! They are real sardine cans. (AF/KL for example)