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User currently offlineMDW22L31C From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 213 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2185 times:

Has Airborne Express setup a hub a March Air Force Base in Riverside, CA?

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User currently offlineKensukeAida From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 217 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2165 times:

DHL has. Dunno about Airborne Express. UPS is presumably happy just down the road at ONT.

And it's March Air RESERVE Base (ARB)/RIV. They haven't had an active duty unit there for some time now.

The Air Force has entered into a joint agreement with a civilian contractor to open the "March Globalport" cargo facility operated in part by the March Inland Port Airport Authority (MIPAA). So, it'll be a joint AF Reserve/Civilian Air Cago airport.

The military will not be totally moving out of March ARB. The reason why this is happening is the because the DoD is eager to differ some of the costs of the facility. Especially because they have more space than they really need during peacetime. There is one wing of C-141s (soon to be C-17s), and one wing of KC-135s (California Air National Guard) based at March. Plus a detachment of two F-16s on alert.

During wartime, March ARB is *vital* to the airlifting of troops from the west coast. You'll sometimes see aircraft operating under the Civil Reserve Fleet parked there (ATA's L1011s, ect). I saw a number of civilian airliners (United, American) parked on the tarmac right before Iraqi Freedom went off.

More info:

http://www.marchjpa.com/

- John

[Edited 2005-10-29 00:19:57]

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26493 posts, RR: 75
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2164 times:

Quoting KensukeAida (Reply 1):
DHL has. Dunno about Airborne Express.

Isn't Airborne, through the ABX Air shell corporation, now DHL's US national freight carrier?



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User currently offlineEchster From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 399 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2123 times:

There are 7 scheduled ABX flight into and out of RIV 6 days a week. The inbounds land 2000-2230L and the departures leave 0130-0345L.

Flights are RIV-BFI (B762), RIV-SFO (B762), RIV-PDX (DC9), RIV-LAS (DC9), RIV-SLC (DC9), RIV-PHX (DC-9), RIV-MHR (DC9). A few of the flights have connecting legs, ie. RIV-PDX continues PDX-ANC. The flights return from the same airfields. Occassionally there is a C208 (Cessna Caravan) that flies back and forth MHR-RIV-MHR.

The DHL ramp is not part of the ARB. That portion of the airfield belongs to the JPA. The State of California has allocated funding to move the CDF tankers from HMT to RIV and they will move to that area of the field after it is built (and some politics plays out).

RIV won't be going anywhere as it performed well under the BRAC. There are actually 2 x KC-135R squadrons based there. One is the 163rd (ANG) and the other is the 452nd (AFR). Under BRAC, the 163rd loses their aircraft. The 452nd gets 4 of them (for a total of 12) and the other 5 are shipped to, IIRC, Knoxville and Pease. The first 4 x C-17s have been delivered with the next 4 to be delivered every 3 weeks. The full complement of 8 x C-17s will be at RIV by Christmas. There are actually more than 2 x F-16s there, but 2 are on alert. The units have changed from being based at FAT to now being based at GTF. There have been commercial airliners at RIV all week, mostly arriving in the morning (around 0700L). Just today, there was a WOA MD-11 on the ramp.


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12146 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1955 times:

During the active duty days of March AFB (RIV) it was the the home of the 22nd Bomb Wing with one KC-135A and one B-52D squadrons (SAC). It was also home to SAC's 15th AF.

Other B-52 and KC-135 units flew from there for Red Flag missions on the Nellis AFB, NV ranges. SAC FB-111A units went to Nellis.


User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5804 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1920 times:

Quoting Echster (Reply 3):
There are actually more than 2 x F-16s there, but 2 are on alert. The units have changed from being based at FAT to now being based at GTF.

Since the 144th ANG Wing based at FAT is actually gaining 300 personnel and several F-16s under BRAC I assume you're saying the aircraft at March report to GTF, not that the Fresno unit is moving.

It was my understanding under BRAC that GTF was going to lose the F-16s and that they would be allocated to other bases with GTF getting F-15s instead.



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User currently offlineSATL382G From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1910 times:

Quoting KensukeAida (Reply 1):
There is one wing of C-141s (soon to be C-17s), and one wing of KC-135s (California Air National Guard) based at March.

The 141s are long gone from March. Last unit operating 141s is at Wright-Patt. They are converting to the C-5 and the last 141 will go to the boneyard in Feb.


User currently offlineKensukeAida From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 217 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1910 times:

Quoting Echster (Thread starter):

RIV won't be going anywhere as it performed well under the BRAC. There are actually 2 x KC-135R squadrons based there. One is the 163rd (ANG) and the other is the 452nd (AFR).

Actually, as I stated earlier. They are *wings*, not squadrons. And the 452nd has been primarily a mixed C-141/KC-135 unit. They are slated to receive C-17s as well (probably to replace the C-141s if they're not gone already).

The 163nd will lose it's tanker aircraft, but it will remain as a unit with its logistics base at March.

Quoting Echster (Reply 3):
There are actually more than 2 x F-16s there, but 2 are on alert. The units have changed from being based at FAT to now being based at GTF

Probably true.

Although whenever I drive by the base on the freeway I see only two ready to go and armed in the shelters. I may have seen a third or fourth parked somewhere.

- John

[Edited 2005-10-29 20:50:00]

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