Vio From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1446 posts, RR: 10 Posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 7038 times:
Maybe the title of this topic is a bit misleading. What I mean by it is what happens to the flight number that happened to be in a tragic mishap. For example after Air France Flight 8969 was hijacked in 1994 and a few people lost their life, AF decided not to use that number anymore for their flights. According to wikipedia, AF changed the number to 3543 and 7667.
N908AW From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 943 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 7032 times:
DL and AA both removed 191 from their list because flight 191 crashed on both of those airlines. AA it was a DC-10 in ORD and everybody onboard perished. Don't recall the DL crash but I think it was in DFW...
'Cause you're on ATA again, and on ATA, you're on vacation!
TWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3129 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6970 times:
As far as i know the new CO EWR-CGN is CO 111 which was Swissairs flight number... and i understand its a different airline and quite some time later... but unlike most flight numbers, #111 is pretty memorable, as well as #800 which i dont think many airlines use.
life wasn't worth the balance, or the crumpled paper it was written on
FlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7428 posts, RR: 57
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6949 times:
Most of Airlines change the number of a flight that crashed, though AF358 remain CDG-YYZ, even after the crash of F-GLZQ, but it didn't end "tragically" as you say in your topic (except for this poor A340...)
Swissair changed the flight number of their JFK-GVA after the crash of SR111 in Sept.1998. It became SR101 if I remember well, and they even changed the aircraft type on that line, at least during a few weeks following the crash.
On March 5 1968, AF lost a B707 (F-BLCJ) approaching PTP, in Guadeloupe, the last enroute stop of flight AF212 SCL-UIO-CCS-PTP-ORY.
AF didn't change the flight number of this line.
Sadly, a year and a half later on dec.3rd 1969, AF lost another B707 (F-BHSZ). The plane crashed into the ocean a few minutes after taking off from CCS ... operating AF212 to PTP and ORY... The flight originated SCL and UIO ...
Fxra From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 713 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 6611 times:
According to a bar trivia game (the most accurate source of facts known to man) i was playing, the flight numbers are never used again... I think the question was something like "What are the odds of boarding a flight with the same flight number as a previsouly crashed flight?" The answer was zero, (i assumed they meant the entire ident such DL123 or UA456)...
AA54Heavy From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 189 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6567 times:
Quoting Fxra (Reply 11): "What are the odds of boarding a flight with the same flight number as a previsouly crashed flight?" The answer was zero, (i assumed they meant the entire ident such DL123 or UA456)...
so there you have the definitive answer.
Not entirely true. IIRC, American Flight #1 crashed into Jamaica Bay just off from JFK back in the later 50s or early 60s.....American Flight #1 still exists today as a LAX-JFK flight (or vice versa).......but I'll bet it depends on how recent, or tragic, the event was.......
In fact, there reason I remember this is because of a man who lost his parnts on Flight #1 and then lost his brother (?) on something like American flight 191.....and he received the same form letter from the latter as he did from the one where his parents died (the letter was a plea to not sue the airline I think)....please correct me if I'm wrong
Gman3 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 290 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6556 times:
Quoting TWA902fly (Reply 3): As far as i know the new CO EWR-CGN is CO 111 which was Swissairs flight number... and i understand its a different airline and quite some time later... but unlike most flight numbers, #111 is pretty memorable, as well as #800 which i dont think many airlines use.
United still uses flt 800. It is our NRT-JFK flight.
Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 2): Most likely for a while. I believe I remember hearing that UAL and AA were renumbering the flights that were used on 9/11. I would be interested to see if those numbers are back in the system.
BDKLEZ From Ireland, joined Jun 2005, 1735 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6401 times:
BD092 still operates LHR-BFS.
This one crashed into the embankment on the M1 only a few hundered metres from the runway at EMA after #2 engine shut-down and #1 engine fail in the crash which killed about 50 people in the winter of 1989 if I remember correctly. A sad day.
Trespassers will be shot; survivors will be shot again!
Cody From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1932 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6289 times:
Eastern Airlines flight 401 from JFK-MIA crashed into the Everglades in 1972, but Eastern continued to use that flight number on the same route all the way up until 1988. I thought that was especially strange considering the fact that four books and two movies were made about the crash and the "incredible aftermath."
JFK998 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4871 times:
You are correct on that CaptainTuT, however Egypt Air did use the flight number MS990 flight for a few months after the crash had taken place, I know this for a fact because I used to fly them to Cairo and I used them even after the crash had occurred, and it still was the same flight number. After 9/11 MS withdrew from LAX and now only provides service from JFK to Cairo. Once they withdrew from LAX, MS changed their flight from MS990 to MS986.