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JAT To YYZ And JFK...  
User currently offlineMSYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 851 posts, RR: 8
Posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3515 times:

I just came across this on another Aviation Forum :
Jat is planning to lease 2 B767's and start long-haul flights to JFK and YYZ .
It also talked about new Aircraft to be added to their fleet , like 8 A319's and 5 B738's .
Any thoughts , confirmation...


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User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3401 times:

Can you PM me a link to this?
JAT could become a strong carrier, f ture.
but I'd go 319/320, now 319/738, whichi s just stupid.

Also, I think they should fly to ORD in additoin to the cities mentioned, even flying BEG-YYZ-ORD perhaps. ORD has a HUGE ethnic population. There are more Serbs in Chicago than in any city other than Belgrade.



What now?
User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3354 times:

Quoting MSYYZ (Thread starter):
Jat is planning to lease 2 B767's and start long-haul flights to JFK and YYZ .

Let's hope for the best  crossfingers  but, it is not the first time JAT announced their return to North American market. Few years ago, they were even selling tickets for the inaugural flight to Toronto.

There was a press conference when the new winter timetable was released and it made me realize how things simply don't change at JAT.

They announced new destination - Kuwait which is already in their network for some time and didn't even mention that they discontinued three other Middle Eastern destinations : Beirut, Damascus and Cairo (which was the biggest surprise to me).

I'm afraid nobody could confirm anything about those flights to YYZ and JFK or new planes simply because people in JAT made so many similar statements in the recent months and years that it is hard for anyone to believe them.

Unfortunately, it is the fact now that airline is a mess and it makes me feel like crying 



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User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2238 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3305 times:

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 2):
Few years ago, they were even selling tickets for the inaugural flight to Toronto.

Few years ago they were selling tickets for their "new" service to Johannesburg as well!

Uhhh, I'll try and control myself here.... they're morons! I'm sorry but JAT's management appear to be thinking of running a poultry farm - not an airline!

Sorry to say but there is a bigger chance of Continental Micronesia starting scheduled flight to Belgrade at the moment than JAT restarting North American services.

Serbia's traveling public needs a good airline like Qatar Airways or Singapore Airlines to come in and rattle some feathers; maaaaybeeeee then the management may actually catch a wake up and bring this airline to a better shape. Until then, its not JAT, its JAD.



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User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2238 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3294 times:

Oh and BTW, dropping prices is not the only way you will make people fly with you. Sure it works, but how about improving service, painting the planes....

Though I must say that a return to Dubai for Euro 139 is bl**dy good! Big grin



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User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3143 times:

Quoting JoKeR (Reply 3):
I'll try and control myself here

You still can? When JAT is mentioned, I lose control  hissyfit 

Quoting JoKeR (Reply 3):
maaaaybeeeee then the management may actually catch a wake up and bring this airline to a better shape.

I doubt it.  no  They are so self-centred that nothing can make them realize in what position they currently are in the airline market. Even today, there are some good airlines serving Belgrade from whom they could learn, but they don't feel like doing it.

Quoting JoKeR (Reply 3):
its not JAT, its JAD.

You are absolutely right  thumbsup 



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User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3091 times:

Absolutely Right.

Does anyone here find operating A319s and 737-800s Stupid? I'm just waiting for the day JAT goes out of business and Serbia gets a new carrier.
-Mr. X



What now?
User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2238 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3078 times:

Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 6):
Does anyone here find operating A319s and 737-800s Stupid? I'm just waiting for the day JAT goes out of business and Serbia gets a new carrier.

Wont be too long now...



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User currently offlineMrComet From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 540 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3048 times:

JAT to JFK? While it would be convenient and probably inexpensive, I am not sure I could spend 8 hours on a plane operated by JAT. They have the poorest service I have ever encountered. Their flight attendents are surly, their flight schedules fictional and if you ever need to get information from any employee at any time, forget about it. I just can't believe it would be a profitable route anyway.


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User currently offlineCheco77 From Peru, joined Oct 2004, 1345 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3033 times:

WOW!!! I see that all the replies here are negative about JAT!!!
I saw once a JAT 733 in PRG and it was all painted in white, are all JAT plane just completely white?
I know that people from Serbia travel to the US via PRG with OK, since they have their schedule made so that people can connect in PRG to the flight to JFK.
How´s JAT´s service anyway?
Regards,
Adam



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User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2983 times:

JAT service is sometimes very good, at times horrible.
Yes, connecting from JAT to OK to JFK is very convenient. My father did that and loved it.
They have one plane in their new livery (YU-ANJ, a 737-300)
A bunch of white planes
and a few 737s in their old livery.

Also, they are now operating an all white 727.

-Mr. X



What now?
User currently offlineLaxinyyz From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 41 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks ago) and read 2691 times:

From Their Canada site:
August 15, 2001 Sanctions lifted in Canada.
May 2002 JAT renewed technical license for operating in Canada
June 05, 2002 Jat Airways is denied Commercial license for operating in Canada.


Have they got a Commercial license for operating in Canada?



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User currently offlineUSADreamliner From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2635 times:

Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 6):
I'm just waiting for the day JAT goes out of business and Serbia gets a new carrier.

Maybe...
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User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2615 times:

Maybe.. but with the way the nations are, I don't think Serbia would ever let a third country assume the role of it's national carrier.
-Mr. X



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User currently offline2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2620 times:

I think the Serbian/Montenegro government should do with JAT what they did with the Port of Bar (the country only seaport), give it in consession and let some private company with experience run it.
I'm sure JAT could be of interest to some international airline groups.

Another option would be to convince airlines to use BEG as an stopover for their flights to the USA and Far East...



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