Wrighbrothers From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1873 posts, RR: 11 Posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 12848 times:
While I was at LHR today, at about 14:30, an AA 767 made an emergancy landing after dumping fuel .
This is all I know, but there were a lot of police cars and Ambulances and the police cleared the area by Hatton Cross tube/bus station incase it over ran the runway.The aircraft taxied off the run way and I think it was due to a technical problem but it could have been a medical emergancy. This is all I know
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SLVRBLT From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 90 posts, RR: 2 Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 12788 times:
It's the flight out of BRU to JFK....mechanical trouble
Wrighbrothers From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1873 posts, RR: 11 Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 12700 times:
Quoting SLVRBLT (Reply 1): It's the flight out of BRU to JFK
Are you sure it came from Brussels ?
I don't think the emergency slides were deployed. which is always a good sign
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SLVRBLT From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 90 posts, RR: 2 Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 12601 times:
Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 3): Are you sure it came from Brussels ?
I don't think the emergency slides were deployed. which is always a good sign
PipoA380 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 1588 posts, RR: 55 Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 12590 times:
Quoting Wrighbrothers (Thread starter): the police cleared the area by Hatton Cross tube/bus station incase it over ran the runway
Does that mean they were landing on 09R today? Don't they usually land on 09L?
Crazy if they had to evacuate that too. Where were you? Over at Myrtle Ave?
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Wrighbrothers From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1873 posts, RR: 11 Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 12582 times:
Quoting SLVRBLT (Reply 4): AA171 diverting BRU-LHR due mech N374AA
Oh ,thanks.
Does anyone know what the tech problem was ?
I believe it went over to the BA hanger after the passengers were let off. But I only THINK this is what happened.
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Wrighbrothers From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1873 posts, RR: 11 Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 12527 times:
I was right by the Hatton cross bus/tube station, by the car park.
Quoting PipoA380 (Reply 5): Does that mean they were landing on 09R today?
I don't know, I couldn't really see , and besides,I don't know which runways are which.
They were landing on the runway by the visitors center and taking off on the other one before the rotation at 15:00. But the AA aircraft landed on the runway where they were taking off. I guess so that if anything fell off the aircraft, other aircrafts could still take off.
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Jmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3076 posts, RR: 20 Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 12220 times:
Quoting Wrighbrothers (Thread starter): This is all I know, but there were a lot of police cars and Ambulances and the police cleared the area by Hatton Cross tube/bus station incase it over ran the runway.The aircraft taxied off the run way and I think it was due to a technical problem but it could have been a medical emergancy.
Why would it over run the runway if it was a medical emergency?
AAR90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3324 posts, RR: 51 Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 12115 times:
Center Hydraulic System quantity reported low in flight. Unable to continue overwater [ETOPS requirements] so diverted to LHR. Maint. found a leak in the Flap/Slat Shut-off Valve, replaced same and returned the plane to service. IOW, not a "big deal." Pilots declared an emergency as a precaution, dumped fuel as a precaution, and landed at LHR.
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I was there then! This gets spooky! We flew out on the same day as well. Sorry.....anyway....back to the topic..
Just after the AC891 from Rome emergency that landed on 09L the fire service shot over to 09R for the AA767 landing. The AA767 was reported by the fire service to have smoke coming from the right undercarriage, particularly the gear and near the right rear tyre.
I think the AA171 landed on 09R only because they didnt know if the AC891 would still be on 09L when the AA landed
Both aircraft after landing and inspection slowly to the stand later..
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(Anyone know what was wrong with the AC0891?? I think the pilot said something about a 'duct leak'?!?! may have mis-heard it though!!!)
WAH64D From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 964 posts, RR: 16 Reply 12, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 10758 times:
Quoting BA0284 (Reply 11): I think the AA171 landed on 09R only because they didnt know if the AC891 would still be on 09L when the AA landed
Sounds plausible. 09L is the main landing runway when on Easterly operations, 09R used for emergency landings and Terminal 4 arrivals when takeoff demands allow.
09L is rarely used for departures due to noise abatement procedures.
BA0284 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 299 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 10679 times:
Quoting WAH64D (Reply 12): 09L is rarely used for departures due to noise abatement procedures.
They were stopping departing aircraft going to the threshold of 09R in-case the AA171 blocked the runway and the departures would had to have gone to 09L, so I take it that they have to use it in the 'worst' circumstances.
AA777223ER From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 220 posts, RR: 3 Reply 14, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 10503 times:
The aircraft is being ferried back to JFK Sunday morning.
Kaitak744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2149 posts, RR: 3 Reply 18, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 8943 times:
This is ridiculous. LHR is already jam packed and they then fill it with emergencies? That plane could have easily landed at LGW.
WhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 8603 times:
Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 18): This is ridiculous. LHR is already jam packed and they then fill it with emergencies? That plane could have easily landed at LGW.
STN might be a better choice, that's where the hijacks get diverted to. However they probably wanted AA personnel available so LHR would be better for onward flights to JFK for the passengers.
Viscount630 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 198 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7217 times:
Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 18): This is ridiculous. LHR is already jam packed and they then fill it with emergencies? That plane could have easily landed at LGW.
Not really, quite sensible actually. As well as the already mentioned availability of AA maintenance/passenger service staff (though I suppose there must be some limited presence at LGW for their own much smaller operation there, compared to LHR) and the much more abundant re-routing opportunities for any stranded passengers, LGW and STN only have the one runway each. If it HAD been a more serious problem and "turned nasty", LGW or STN would probably have been closed down for a very long period as a result. Movements at LHR would have been seriously impacted by the closure of a runway, but it would have been able to continue operations once the fire service had dealt with any initial "incident" and were back on standby to provide cover for other movements.
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25566 posts, RR: 87 Reply 21, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6888 times:
Quoting Viscount630 (Reply 20): LGW and STN only have the one runway each. If it HAD been a more serious problem and "turned nasty", LGW or STN would probably have been closed down for a very long period as a result.
Actually, LGW could have used the backup runway.
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Dogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6775 times:
The pilots of the AA aircraft may have been more familiar with LHR than any other airport therefor wanted to go somewhere he knew and could make speedy decisions incase of an emergency.
SevenHeavy From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 934 posts, RR: 12 Reply 23, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5858 times:
LHR is the preferred diversion airport for all AA transatlantic ops for a number of reasons:
Geographically it is very well placed, being very close to the begginning/end (depending on which direction you are heading) of the atlantic crossing.
LHR is by far AA's largest european operation so availability of resources is much better. It is also about the only european operation with an operation which runs past mid afternoon (CDG has a later JFK departure but thats about it) therefore there is more chance of having available manpower when you land.
If a flight makes an emergency landing and subsequently cancels, there is a far greater chance of being able to get passengers out on other AA services due to the number of flights AA offers from LHR.
However the most important reason is mantainence support. LHR is the only european station to have maintainence personnel available 24hrs a day. Maintainence technicians from LHR provide support for all european, middle east, and far eastern operations and frequently fly out to assist with major technical problems. They also support start up operations and are currently doing so in DEL for AA's new service to ORD. They will also support new PVG services in the spring and in the last few months have gone to NRT, FRA, MXP and CDG to name a few.
Aloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 7085 posts, RR: 51 Reply 24, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5303 times:
Quoting Jmc1975 (Reply 8): Why would it over run the runway if it was a medical emergency?
Didn't overrun, but taxi off of it - and onto a taxiway.
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25 Wrighbrothers: You don't live in Hampton do you ? where were you ? Couldn't they use BA engineering, like QF and SA do ?. BA have engineers at most of their Europea
26 SevenHeavy: LHR is the main European hub for AA. They have up to 18 flights per day departing and arriving between 06:00 - 22:30 every day. They also handle engi
27 Wrighbrothers: Thank you for you highly detailed resonce , and now I know something I didn't know 10 mins ago, who needs school Cheers Wrighbrothers
28 SevenHeavy: My Pleasure Admittedly I may Be biased Towards AA Maintainence technicians - my Dad is one and has been with AA/TWA for 25 years . He was actually th
29 Wrighbrothers: Me too, my Dad is in BA engineering Wrighbrothers[Edited 2005-10-30 13:34:00]
30 BA0284: Nah, I live under the Bovingdon Hold/VOR!!! I was over at the visitors centre so I could see arrivals and the departures in the distance. It was stra
31 RichardPrice: Backup runway? What backup runway?
32 Wrighbrothers: That was the first time i've seen an emergancy at LHR. I don't think they are that often. Wrighbrothers
33 Panman: Is it? Well I will let the guys at work know that we have been doing it wrong all this time and get the CAA to come down to Luton and have a word wit
34 Jacobin777: I flew on an AA 763 yesterday (SFO-ORD).. ...however I prefer flying on a 777 from ORD/JFK-LHR... will be flying SFO-LHR-DXB on BA next month, maybe
35 Wrighbrothers: 15 years too late my friend he's no longer fixing them, (he fixed the 747-100's, VC-10's, Concorde, 707's, tridents etc), he's in planning management
36 Feroze: 08R/26L is the main runway at LGW. When this is out of use, 08L/26R (at 2565m) can be used. I believe this is rare and is usually used as an addition
37 Jacobin777: oh..lol.....but I have flown on BA's VC-10's..... thanks...
38 RichardPrice: Seems the use of that runway would be out of pure desparation, I mean in one direction you are literally heading straight for a terminal, and to land
40 Commavia: This is exactly right. The reason AA always diverts to LHR if possible is because AA's European HQ and European Maintenance Operation are all based a
41 N1120A: They use it when there is maintainance on the main runway and if something (bad landing, etc.) happens to close down the main.
42 Sevenheavy: Hence why I used the word "often". I was talking in relevance to the question which asked why BA do not handle AA and this is still a valid answer. B
43 Jacobin777: It was LHR-ISB (Rawalpindi)....it was quite some time ago! I remember it well......in fact, the BA office in ISB/Rawalpindi had a large scale model o
44 Panman: Once again you are proving that you do not know what you are talking about. I have a close friend who has worked in BA for 17 years, starting as an a
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