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When Will NZ's New 777 Operate To Rarotonga?  
User currently offlineFlybynight From Norway, joined Jul 2003, 1005 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4672 times:

I hope to make another trip back to the wonderful Cook Islands on NZ. I was looking at NZ schedules this spring and they are showing the 767 as being the plane from LAX to the Cook Islands (and onwards to New Zealand). When are the 777's taking over the route? I assume the 767's are going to be phased-out.
Maybe SK can get one for that EWR - OSL route.  footinmouth 


Heia Norge!
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User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5910 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4655 times:
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I think the first NZ 777's will replace the 744 on the AKL-SFO route. I don't know what NZ's 767 phase-out will be. Maybe they'll wait until they start taking delivery of the 787's.

User currently offlineAC777LR From Canada, joined Apr 2006, 487 posts, RR: 40
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4535 times:

Stupid question here, but remind me again what engine type did NZ order with there triple 7s?


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User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4749 posts, RR: 44
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4440 times:

Quoting AC777LR (Reply 4):
Stupid question here, but remind me again what engine type did NZ order with there triple 7s?

RR Trent



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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4425 times:

NZ is likely to continue to operate service to destinations like the Cook Islands (and other stops on the Coral Route) with the 763s for many years to come....the 777s are not replacing the 763s on a one for one basis. The 763 will stay in service with NZ until replaced with the 787.

The 777 is probably offers too much capacity for most Coral Route flights and NZ plans to use the 777 initially on higher demand routes such as AKL to HKG.


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4358 times:

Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 1):
I think the first NZ 777's will replace the 744 on the AKL-SFO route. I don't know what NZ's 767 phase-out will be. Maybe they'll wait until they start taking delivery of the 787's.

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Dear Jacobin777,

Thank you for your email,

Air New Zealand starts flying the 777-200ER into San Francisco on 29th November 2005.

28NOV 4DEC MTWTFSS

1 NZ 008 1900 1015 .2.4.6. AKLSFO I CY 772 0

2 NZ 008 1900 1015 ..3.5.7 AKLSFO I CY 744 0



Regards

Air New Zealand



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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12165 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4090 times:
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If I remember correctly NZ are going to be giving the remaining B763s cabin a mini make over. When NZ receives their first B787 I think NZ will still have 5 B763s in the fleet.

User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4575 posts, RR: 41
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3832 times:

Is the runway at Rarotonga capable of receiving the 777? Some years ago, I was told by someone who was working on an airline (which never got off the ground unfortunately) that RAR was unsuitable for A340s.

V/F



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User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2407 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3758 times:

I was on the Cook Islands last summer and flew the 767.. I have seen pictures of a 747-200 on approach to Rarotonga though

btw I dont think it flies directly from LAX to Rarotonga. I flew the opposite direction and we had to land in PPT before continuing to LAX

[Edited 2005-11-01 14:09:11]

User currently offlineNZPM From New Zealand, joined Oct 2005, 95 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3707 times:

Quoting VirginFlyer (Reply 7):
Is the runway at Rarotonga capable of receiving the 777

Yes. yes  It is even capable of receiving a 747, as NZ used to operate there with a 742 back in the good old days. tongue 

video: http://www.flightlevel350.com/viewer.php?id=1047


User currently offlineSunriseValley From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 4985 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3654 times:

Quoting Flybynight (Thread starter):
When are the 777's taking over the route? I assume the 767's are going to be phased-out.

My guess would be, not until the 787-8's go into service. It might depend on where you are flying into RAR from. If it is from LAX then it will be a long haul aircraft. From AKL it is long haul type on the days the flight goes onto LAX, otherwise it is an A320.


User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2407 posts, RR: 24
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3625 times:

I made a trip report of my flight from RAR to AIT if anyone is interested. It is here on a.net:
Once In A Lifetime: RAR-AIT Flight In Paradise (by AirPacific747 Jul 30 2005 in Trip Reports)

(there is also pictures from Rarotonga airport)


User currently offlineFlybynight From Norway, joined Jul 2003, 1005 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3525 times:

Quoting VirginFlyer (Reply 7):
Is the runway at Rarotonga capable of receiving the 777? Some years ago, I was told by someone who was working on an airline (which never got off the ground unfortunately) that RAR was unsuitable for A340s.

I believe NZ's 744's have been in there during the X-mas season when the 763 isn't enough.
With the A340's slow climb I wouldn't be surprised if she needs more runway than the more powerful 744. Don't get me wrong I like flying the A340, but she isn't the most powerful bird out there!!



Heia Norge!
User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5331 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3455 times:

Quoting Flybynight (Reply 12):
I believe NZ's 744's have been in there during the X-mas season when the 763 isn't enough.

The LAX-PPT-RAR route used to get 742's and the odd 744. 763's have allowed NZ to increase flights on these routes. The 744 has done the odd flight to RAR in the last couple of years but only operating AKL-RAR-AKL, the 744's go to APW over Christmas!

Quoting Flybynight (Reply 12):
With the A340's slow climb I wouldn't be surprised if she needs more runway than the more powerful 744.

Yes I think in general the A340's does need more runway than the 744!


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