A360 From Portugal, joined Jun 2005, 434 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 7956 times:
Lumberton... if you check the specs for the 345/346 you will notice there are 2 versions... one of them heavier, with more powerfull engine and longer range (the HGW version).
The values for the HGW version are between parenthesis.
Quoting EGNR (Reply 2): The last non-HGW A340-500/-600 wings will be produced before the end of this year. All wings produced from Jan 2nd 2006 will be HGW wings.
The first A340-600HGW is msn 715 and this is due to be delivered to Qatar Airways.
Thanks for the info!
Quoting TaromA380 (Reply 1): And what are the differences (in detail) for the HGW versions ?
Higher MTOW, more powerfull engines (the same engines as the other versions, but delivering more power) and subsequently longer range.
There may be other changes, but I don't know very much about it... just the basic facts.
DfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 968 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 7771 times:
Quoting TaromA380 (Reply 6): I cannot wait to see the match 772LR vs. 345HGW. That would be the true LR match, each type entering service next year.
Not even. While the A346-HGW comes close to matching the 773ER on range, it still falls way short of payload and fuel consumption. The A345-HGW is even less likely to compete with the 772LR:
- The estimated range for the A345-HGW is 9,000 nm. This falls 420 nm short of the existing 772LR.
- The A345-HGW would not match the payload uplift of the 772LR and would require a much larger fuel volume for a given mission. The A345-HGW is still a weight-limited aircraft, whereas the 772LR is restricted by fuel volume.
- Because the 772LR is limited by fuel volume and not take-off weight, Boeing could hypothetically add a fourth cargo fuel tank and push the 772LR well past 9,420 nm. In theory, this aircraft may be capable of Kangaroo Hop Holy Grail: LHR-SYD and SYD-LHR (or much less sexy: SYD-DFW)
The A345 won a fair number of orders because of early availability, but the 772LR has since tied the A345, and could potentially surge past the A345 in the near future. I wouldn't call the A345's future bright...
TaromA380 From Romania, joined Sep 2005, 334 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 7630 times:
Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 7): The A345 won a fair number of orders because of early availability, but the 772LR has since tied the A345, and could potentially surge past the A345 in the near future. I wouldn't call the A345's future bright...
Ok. But we are talking about the A345HGW. In theory, it's an improved A345. In practice, we haven't any performance report, as it's just on paper.
The 772LR is still in certification stage, no performance report either (however the future seems quiet bright, based on the very good performances of the 777-series).
Feroze From India, joined Dec 2004, 794 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 7588 times:
Quoting Zeke (Reply 12): I thought EK and TG one each, and EY x 4 ?
Quoting Zeke (Reply 15): Quoting A360 (Reply 14):
EK has received all it's 10 345's... the last one was delivered on the 29th of September.
I thought the 10th EK one msn 694 A6-ERJ has not been delivered, and the third TG one msn 698 HS-TLC was in service as of oct 25.
EMIRATES RECEIVES ITS ENTIRE ORDER OF AIRBUS A340-500
Emirates, the Dubai-based international airline equipped with one of the most modern fleets in the world, has received its entire order of Airbus A340-500s with the arrival of its 10th A340-500 aircraft.
PM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6882 posts, RR: 63
Reply 17, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 7121 times:
Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 7): The A345 won a fair number of orders because of early availability, but the 772LR has since tied the A345
Really? Airbus have sold 26 A345s to six customers. Boeing have sold 5 777-200LRs to two customers. I guess you could add in the 9 777-200Fs for two customers to take the total to 14 but that's still just half the A345 total.