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Today's "fun" At MKE 10/30/05  
User currently offlineSkyexRamper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 2900 times:

Well today was an interesting day, at MKE, to say the least. A skyway ramper and midwest frieght person but operating tugs with carts collide which resulted in the flipping of a cart. Each tug was coming around the back of a plane going in the opposite direction as the side they were coming from. (crossing paths like an X). Well, now add that one person wasn't watching what was in front of them and BANG, 90deg hit to a cart.
Then about 1.5hr later 2 rampers cut dangerouslly close behind ExpressJet that was pushing out, XJT was pushing prior to the tugs being in the area. Two tugs with carts in a matter of 10 secs apart missed the ERJ-145 by about 10 feet. After the first tug had went behind the ERJ, XJT started to push again with the thought that the 2nd cart would stop seeing as how the ERJ was sitting far from the gate. Nope, 2nd tug never stopped over turned out of it's path...just kept on going.

(Saving a million dollars how!?!?!)

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User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3704 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 2876 times:
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I was chatting with FlyXJT this afternoon about the state of affairs on the YX ramp in MKE and he told me about those incidents. We had quite a few laughs during that twenty minute span as we watched the Skyway guys dart in and out of the bag tunnel and the tug road. I still say that someone is going to get killed on the Skyway ramp, it is the most dangerous place in the airport to be.

In other news, we (FL) had a 737 charter this afternoon, anyone get a chance to see it?



Nice Trip Report!!! Great Pics, thanks for posting!!!! B747Forever
User currently offlineIlovenz From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 149 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 2813 times:

With all those YX B-1900s around, it'd be scared as hell. I recently flew outta STL on an AA Jetstream-41 and it was insane how close together all the Jetstreams were parked, and they all semed to be in a big hexagon facing eachother. Literally said a small prayer for the ramp workers!!

User currently offlineN917ME From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 730 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 2719 times:

If you watch the ramp at any major airport you will see similar, if not worse events than these at YX in MKE. I can't keep track of how many times I have seen WN, NW or US rampers come close to hitting aircraft.. or worse yet a WN catering truck backing up in the path of US express pax walking to their CRJ. or NW rampers driving the carts into the concrete barricade in the bag room and narrowly missing TSA screeners and the CTX machine.....I could go on and on.. Basically, this type of behavior is not limited to YX or MKE. You seem like a very bitter ex YX employee. The ramp has been outsourced....GET OVER IT. No amout of whining or pointing out every little error will change that.

User currently offlineSkyexRamper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 2596 times:

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 1):
I was chatting with FlyXJT this afternoon about the state of affairs on the YX ramp in MKE

Yeah saw you guys standing over there probably laughing your a$$ off.
 

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 1):
In other news, we (FL) had a 737 charter this afternoon, anyone get a chance to see it?

That was a charter...for who? I thought it was new regular service.

[Edited 2005-10-31 04:46:02]

User currently offlineSkyexRamper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 2579 times:

Quoting N917ME (Reply 3):
You seem like a very bitter ex YX employee. The ramp has been outsourced....GET OVER IT.

Can't get over what never happened.....there are only two people here @ a.net that know who I am, and thats all that matters. I've been laughing since YX announced the misguided outsourcing.


User currently offlineOrdpark From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 574 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 2497 times:
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Unfortunatly, the events you described do, indeed, happen at virtually every airport...I watch the way people drive on our ramps and am amazed that there aren't accidents everyday....I don't think people appreciate how dangerous it is on the ramp and people seem to have a complete disregard for moving aircraft. The only thing that seems to impress some folks is an accident...

User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3704 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 2479 times:
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On another note. As I was driving off of the ramp tonight (yes I get to park right under our gate) a Skyway ramper kept trying to get me to drive behind a 328 that had both engines spinning. He kept motioning for me to pass behind the plane. I waited, and waited, and eventually the plane shutdown due to a MX issue. After the beacons were off, I climbed out of my car and reminded him of MKE's policy that you can't drive within 100 feet of an aircraft that is in front of you. I also reminded him of how unsafe it was to try to motion me behind an aircraft with both engines running, he looked at me like I was crazy. Oh well, just another night on the ramp.


Nice Trip Report!!! Great Pics, thanks for posting!!!! B747Forever
User currently offlineSideflare75 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 613 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 2459 times:

AirTran

That also happens all the time. I don't know how many times I've been passed by someone while waiting for an aircraft with it's beacons and or engines on. The fuel trucks do it all the time. Even seen the county guys and sheriffs do it. It's definately not limited to any one set of rampers thats for sure. I know most of the people driving on the ramp probably have no idea how easy it would be for an aircraft to blow over something. Just telling someone that in some new hire training session doesn't do anyone any good. If someone is in a hurry they don't care. Bottom line. You're lucky the ramper didn't run you over. You are pretty trusting.


User currently offlineBigOrange From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2365 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2322 times:

These things do happen at every airport, but it's good to hear about mishaps, as long as no-one is killed or injured.

Anyone hear about the ramp worker at MAN a few years ago. Wasn't looking where he was going and rammed the side of an Israeli AF 707 with the PM sleeping on board.

I think the employee needed a clean pair of underwear after coming face to face with Mossad agents  Wink


User currently offlineUALramperORD From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2209 times:

On a similar note, the ramp at IAD is also quite dangerous due to DGS employees (Delta Global Services, who United contracts out the UAX operation to them) there is always emergency vehicles racing out to there ramp at least one time a shift. They flip carts and damage express airplanes like clockwork. Im not saying we mainline employees don't have accidents, which we do from time to time, but we are no where close to the DGS rate.

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