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Why Are Winds All-of-a-sudden "estimated"?  
User currently offlineLVTMB From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 391 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 3354 times:

I was wondering ... I noticed that since the storm last week, ATC controllers at MIA and other South Florida airports provide wind heading and speed advises as estimates -- as opposed to actual readings? (Wind estimated at zero eight zero at one zero). What is behind the language change?

MB

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User currently offlineB744F From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 3342 times:

unstable atmosphere conditions that could lead to sudden wind changes maybe?

User currently offlineKohflot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 3318 times:

It might be a technicality. The hurricane likely did some damage to the anemometers on the field. They could be using a backup that's not 'legally' reliable, or the repaired anemometer might not be completely calibrated yet. Stating the winds to be 'estimated' conveys the message that the accuracy of their information can't be guaranteed.

User currently offlineSPREE34 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 2248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 3231 times:

Kohflot called it correctly. Broken instrumentation. "Estimated" is the prescribed ATC (US) phraseology in these circumstances.


I don't understand everything I don't know about this.
User currently offlineEchster From United States of America, joined exactly 10 years ago today! , 399 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3150 times:

It could also be estimated if the wind sensor is not located near the approach end of the runway. For instance, Runway 9 is in use but the wind sensor isn't working. The Runway 27 sensor is operating, so the wind is estimated.

User currently offlineOptionsCLE From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 467 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3141 times:

Kohflot and SPREE34 have it right. If the certified wind speed/direction indicator is out of service ATC may use a backup that while technically correct is not legally "correct," hence the "estimated."

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