Vincewy From Taiwan, joined Oct 2005, 767 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted
Wed Nov 2 2005 16:52:21 UTC (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3060 times:
Neither, over Acrtic Ocean (polar).
BigOrange From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2395 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted
Wed Nov 2 2005 16:57:42 UTC (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3024 times:
Actually that is incorrect. Flight SQ21/22 is a true round the world flight. SQ21 goes over the Atlantic and Euroope. SQ22 returns over the Pacific.
Very rarely does it take the Polar Route, unless the winds are against it heading east.
Kiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8719 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted
Wed Nov 2 2005 16:58:43 UTC (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3017 times:
according to Great Circle Mapper ( which does not always reflect the actual route flown ) the route would be on the "Atlantic" side of the pole rather than the "Pacific" side .
Some kind person told me once how to post maps from the great circle mapper ... but being the dopey @#$#%*^ I am I have managed to delete the instructions .. otherwise I would post the map .
Hint hint hint to any kind person who would like to give me the instructions again
I promise to take better care of them this time [Edited 2005-11-02 17:08:00]
Moderation in all things ... including moderation ;-)
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 27529 posts, RR: 74
Reply 4, posted
Wed Nov 2 2005 17:00:57 UTC (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3005 times:
SQ 21 goes EITHER transpolar or transatlantic, depending on winds and/or European ATC constraints. The return almost always goes Transpacific
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Pieinthesky From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 392 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted
Wed Nov 2 2005 17:06:11 UTC (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2983 times:
It goes over the Atlantic and down through Northern Europe.
SIN- EWR goes up over Japan and Alaska and down through Canada, unless they've changed the route since I flew it earlier this year.
RoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 10271 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted
Wed Nov 2 2005 17:15:25 UTC (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2944 times:
I recently flew EWR- SIN- EWR on SQ 21/22 and it used a polar route on the EWR- SIN leg and a Pacific route on the SIN- EWR leg. It all depends on winds of the day.
On SQ21 we took off from EWR and headed directly north on a polar route. We passed very close to the North Pole and then came down through Siberia, passed over Mongolia, then headed through China (directly over Wuhan) and then into the South China Sea passing just east of Vietnam before landing into SIN. Total air time was 17hrs and 40min.
On SQ22 we took off and headed northwest over the South China Sea, directly over Naha, then on very close to Tokyo before heading more westerly. We stayed south of the 60 parallel and a good distance south of ANC. We crossed into North America just south of Vancouver before paralleling the US/Candian border. We finally crossed the border close to Buffalo NY before heading into EWR. Total flight time was 18hrs 20min (but some of that was due to delays on arrival into EWR as the flight time should have been closer to 18hrs)
You can read the trip report that I wrote for the flights if you want more information:
United/Singapore ORD-EWR-SIN In Raffles Class (by RoseFlyer Oct 17 2005 in Trip Reports)
SQ/UA SIN-EWR-ORD Raffles Class (stranded In EWR) (by RoseFlyer Oct 24 2005 in Trip Reports [Edited 2005-11-02 17:45:38]
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Zeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 9792 posts, RR: 75
Reply 7, posted
Wed Nov 2 2005 17:36:36 UTC (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2868 times:
Pieinthesky & RoseFlyer,
I think your both correct, will depend on the time of year and the location of the polar jet stream.
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Persotvik From Norway, joined Nov 1999, 274 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted
Wed Nov 2 2005 18:13:47 UTC (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2794 times:
And what about
TG's BKK- JFK flight? The same routes?
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Dartland From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 646 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted
Wed Nov 2 2005 19:39:40 UTC (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2690 times:
Same question for
CX JFK- HKG...
Iluv747400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 372 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted
Wed Nov 2 2005 19:54:12 UTC (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2676 times:
I flew this route last month. It was a Pacific routing, crossing Taiwan, Japan, passing just south of ANC, across Canada to Toronto, and then into JFK.
CX All Asia Pass (10 Flights With Pictures)
You can read the last segment here for a more detailed description of the routing.