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B6 Launches BOS-SEA Tomorrow  
User currently offlineFA4B6 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2938 times:

Just a reminder!

http://www.jetblue.com/learnmore/pressDetail.asp?newsId=337

BOS-SEA 2045-2359
SEA-BOS 1255-0910

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User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2882 times:

Do the loads look good or not? I hope they do well and it seems like they will since they are more known in BOS then AS is so I think both of them will make it on the routes, because B6 is going after the BOS-SEA-BOS PAX and AS is the other way around.

Fares are at $119 each way so I don't know if that seems good or bad but it seems good since they originally started at $99.

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User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9464 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2836 times:

When I was in SEA last Sunday I did notice a little advertisement for the SEA-BOS service at their gate. It wasn't very significant though. AS has better timing of its flights and has a loyal base in SEA, so B6 must be going after the BOS based passengers. I am sure they will do well, but I wouldn't want to go on that flight personally because me and economy does not work well for red eye flights even if there is a TV playing late night TV shows.

But judging from their success on other red eye routes, I am sure they will do well, and operating a flight to SEA with a plane that would mostly sit on the ground is a smart move as far as fleet utilization goes.

[Edited 2005-11-03 00:11:59]


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26338 posts, RR: 76
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2817 times:

Quoting FA4B6 (Thread starter):
BOS-SEA 2045-2359
SEA-BOS 1255-0910

Um, that makes it look like they are flying Concorde. I think you mean 0055-0910. Interesting that the departure is so late from Seattle

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 2):
I am sure they will do well, but I wouldn't want to go on that flight personally because me and economy does not work well for red eye flights even if there is a TV playing late night TV shows.

Given the very noticable 34" pitch in the rear third of B6's aircraft (I could get up from my window seat without the aisle getting up), it makes a very attractive redeye option.



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User currently offlineGift4tbone From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 612 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2773 times:

Quoting JetBlueAtJFK (Reply 1):
because B6 is going after the BOS-SEA-BOS

It seems to me, that B6 will be the next airline to give a go, at operating a hub at BOS. AA and DL didn't do so hot, although if DL wasn't in such a position right now, I could see them using their new terminal. US is shrinking by the day it seems, even though HP added SFO and LAX last year. (I think they only kept the lax flight?!) So good luck B6, maybe you'll make it work.

-Tony@PVD



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User currently offlineLeneld From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 606 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2735 times:

That's so exciting....Hopefully PDX will be next...................

User currently offlineRwSEA From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3076 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2659 times:

AA used to offer the flight, as did NW. AA dropped it in 2004, NW dropped it a few years earlier.

I hope AS continues to do well on the route.


User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9464 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2653 times:

It is a tricky route that has seen different airlines try it (like many routes out of BOS). AS though is a little different since they have a full hub operation in SEA. AS has strong brand loyalty out of SEA and offers connections to west coast markets (from small northwest cities to Alaska). B6 will be interesting. I doubt it will ever go beyond a red eye though. It took so long to get that daylight SEA-JFK service on B6.


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User currently offlineJetdeltamsy From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2987 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2649 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 4):
spoilt.

Spoilt? SPOILT?? Rosie......come on!  eek 

Red-eyes are hard on everyone...passengers and crew.

I work transatlantic flights almost exclusively and have for more than 10 years. It is still hard on me.



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User currently offlineJetBluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2967 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2636 times:

Bookings look very weak (so far). They are offering it at a $79 sale fare. The only other JetBlue transcon being offered at that fare is IAD-SMF and IAD-SAN.

On the other hand, this route is being launched during a very slow time of the year. I'm sure it'll perform better once we get into the spring/summer time.

BOS-LAS had a very slow launch and even performed poorly in the summer. But for some strange reason it's performing very well now. I guess the market just had to warm up to the new service. Same thing will go with SEA.

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User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2535 times:

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 10):
They are offering it at a $79 sale fare

The first BOS-SEA flight is at $119 now and was a couple of hours ago so I do not know what flight you are talking about.

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User currently offlineJetBluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2967 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2503 times:

I don't mean last-minute fares. I mean advanced 7-day fares. Anything within a week starts at $119, and if the plane remains pretty empty, it stays at that fare until the day of the flight. A $119 fare for tomorrow shows that the flight is quite empty.

JetBluefan1



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User currently offlineB6sea From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 340 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2483 times:

An awesome Birthday presant for me!!

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 8):
AS has strong brand loyalty out of SEA and offers connections to west coast markets (from small northwest cities to Alaska).

Ahhh... but no one has mentioned that B6 has a large opperation in BOS with connections to E. Coast markets. And also I've flown the AS flight (BORING AS HELL... by the way) but it was probably 100% full if not very close to that both times I've flown it. And also I cant say that I've ever seen a B6 ad here in Seattle and very few people outside of the aviation community even know that they fly here but on the JFK flight that I flew on it was pretty full so hopefully this flight will be discovered by my fellow seattleites and make it work for B6.
CHEERS for B6!

-Chans


User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9464 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2487 times:

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 10):
BOS-LAS had a very slow launch and even performed poorly in the summer. But for some strange reason it's performing very well now. I guess the market just had to warm up to the new service. Same thing will go with SEA

LAS and SEA are both highly seasonal markets, but occur at different times of the year. LAS hits its peak in the winter as people flock to the winter heat and casinos. SEA hits its peak in the summer when Alaskan cruises depart from its port and it sees many tourists.

What sustains leisure traffic in SEA during the winter is the need for Washingtonians to escape those gray dreary days of endless drizzle. I lived there for 18 years and know what it feels like come February. That Disneyland or Mexico vacation is desperately needed. BOS isn't the type of destination to get leisure travelers from SEA in that type of year. The other thing that keeps loads up are the high number of business travelers. SEA is a high tech city with many large corporations. However these aren't the clients that would fly a jetBlue redeye flight to BOS. Businessmen in BOS are more likely to have loyalty to one of the network carriers with a big operation there like AA, US or DL since those airlines offer far more destinations and options for business travelers. So what you are left with is not very much traffic, which means low yields. This route would do great come May or June, but launching it in November isn't going to show immediate results.



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User currently offlineFA4B6 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2322 times:

Quoting Gift4tbone (Reply 4):
It seems to me, that B6 will be the next airline to give a go, at operating a hub at BOS. AA and DL didn't do so hot, although if DL wasn't in such a position right now, I could see them using their new terminal. US is shrinking by the day it seems, even though HP added SFO and LAX last year. (I think they only kept the lax flight?!) So good luck B6, maybe you'll make it work.

Looks like it! [from a press release dated 2/2/05]

JetBlue Airways (Nasdaq: JBLU) today announced it has reached an agreement to lease the long-term use of the 11-gate Terminal C, Pier C facility at Boston's Logan International Airport subject to Massport Board approval and execution of definitive documentation.

Beginning this May, the carrier expects to occupy five gates in Terminal C as well as 14 ticket counter positions. Starting in 2006, JetBlue will continue its growth in Terminal C by adding one gate every six months over the next three years. The carrier currently occupies two gates at Logan's Terminal E.


http://www.jetblue.com/learnmore/pressDetail.asp?newsId=297


User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9464 posts, RR: 52
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2312 times:

Quoting B6sea (Reply 12):
Ahhh... but no one has mentioned that B6 has a large opperation in BOS with connections to E. Coast markets.

What connections does B6 offer in BOS that are not already available through JFK? There might be some connecting traffic on the BOS-SEA-BOS flights, but nothing that would justify the route. B6 has to be relying on passengers travelling between Boston and Seattle. Though I can't imagine them getting many SEA based passengers since there is little advertising. Good luck to them, but I still think that despite a somewhat inferior product (lack of TV) AS will still do well in the market.



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User currently offlineFA4B6 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2332 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 15):
What connections does B6 offer in BOS that are not already available through JFK? There might be some connecting traffic on the BOS-SEA-BOS flights, but nothing that would justify the route. B6 has to be relying on passengers travelling between Boston and Seattle. Though I can't imagine them getting many SEA based passengers since there is little advertising. Good luck to them, but I still think that despite a somewhat inferior product (lack of TV) AS will still do well in the market.

That's a good point. The aircraft would be RON'ing in BOS anyway, so sending it out makes sense. I'm sure SEA seemed like the best market, though I'm not sure what BOS-PDX and BOS-SAN look like in terms of O&D etc. I'm sure B6 made a good choice.


User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2205 times:

Well B6 will most likely do well in a little bit wants it gets warmed up and they will do fine since B6 is more well known in BOS then AS is. Plus they offer connections in BOS to anywhere on other airlines in BOS, like Europe or Caribbean, they can connect to any other airline or B6 to Florida to JFK then Caribbean cities that they serve.

They will do well once it gets going.

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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26338 posts, RR: 76
Reply 18, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2187 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 13):
LAS hits its peak in the winter as people flock to the winter heat and casinos.

Winter heat? I assume you have been to Las Vegas, though you must have never stepped outside, because it is COLD there in the winter.



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User currently offlineAwysBSB From Brazil, joined Sep 2005, 561 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2169 times:

I hope B6 grows more at BOS than at JFK, for Boston is more in need of LCCs than NYC.

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