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Allegiant Announces PSP-LAS  
User currently offlineN908AW From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 922 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3611 times:

http://www.allegiantair.com/pr/110205.htm


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User currently offlineNotdownnlocked From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 929 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3587 times:

OH GOODY? I'M SO HAPPY THEY WILL BE SO ON THIS ROUTE BEFORE SOMEONE ELSE WILL. GOOD LUCK AND GOOD PLANNING FOR ALLEGIANT. yOU GO GO AND GO.

User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4364 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3569 times:
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Quoting Notdownnlocked (Reply 1):
OH GOODY? I'M SO HAPPY THEY WILL BE SO ON THIS ROUTE BEFORE SOMEONE ELSE WILL. GOOD LUCK AND GOOD PLANNING FOR ALLEGIANT. yOU GO GO AND GO

Are you ok? A little to much crack? Skywest already does LAS-PSP with the EMB-120's 3x daily and HP (Mesa) with the Dash-8.



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User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6090 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3544 times:

Whats a waste of fuel. To get an MD80 up and then back down..oh yeah!

ASSFO



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User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4364 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3514 times:
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Quoting AS739X (Reply 3):
Whats a waste of fuel. To get an MD80 up and then back down..oh yeah!

I guess your airline wastes fuel then, SEA-GEG has multiple MD-80's on that route and it's less than 200nm too.



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User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6090 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3476 times:

Iowaman, Biz market. These are 2 different markets so please don't compare. GEG-SEA, people connecting for business. It also runs as you said a few times a day so you can get home that night, as well as Q400's mixed in. Allegiant, twice weekly with a $29 fare between to leisure destinations, though PSP can get some high fares. But please come back to be with a better comparison then that Iowa.

ASLAX



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User currently offlineFlyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3450 times:

first of all, i think it's a smart move. they probably had the md-80 just sitting there for a few hours at the gate, what a quick way for the weekend traveler to get more tourists into vegas. less than an hour flight, plane back to vegas within hours, and plus, with all the snowbirds in the psp area through the winter time, i am sure this will only be seasonal service, and by the end of spring, we'll be hearing the route not in service.

User currently offlineLoisencroach From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 373 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3420 times:

I never would have guessed Palm Springs. I have no criticism....just that I am actually pretty suprised.

User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24814 posts, RR: 46
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3416 times:

Topic been going since last week.

New Airline Into Palm Springs? (by Anzacbat Oct 28 2005 in Civil Aviation)



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User currently offlineLoisencroach From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 373 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3401 times:

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 8):

I just assumed that Frontier/Horizon was the carrier. I don't really care about Palm Springs, so I haven't been keeping up on it.


User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5790 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3300 times:

I don't know what to think on this route. I would have liked to have seen some way to allow passengers to self connect in LAS like WNs DAL flights to another airport then a connection.

Perhaps vacation packages combining LAS and PSP stays with a flight between the two should be offered for East Coast travellers. (Anyone want to pass that on to G4 marketing? Just tell them where you got the idea from  Wink )

On the other hand you do have a lot of people and money at both ends and people who live in both areas do take getaway trips. Many probably do not like the I-15 crawl.

I don't know the PSP area that well so I don't know if the preferred route to Vegas by car is west into the SB/Riverside area then north on 15 OR using some of the desert back highways to 15. But it still must be roughly a 4 or 5 hour drive vs. a short flight.

One of the articles below had the following quote, Howard Jacobs, sales director for the Palm Springs Bureau of Tourism, expects the number of flights to increase. "We get, surprisingly, a good deal of visitors from Vegas. A lot more than we anticipated," he said. While most drive to the community, the Allegiant deal should change that, Jacobs said.

This may turn out to be another route where Allegiant's package sales offset the cost of the short flight.

http://www.thedesertsun.com/apps/pbc...BUSINESS01/511030316/1003/business
http://www.pe.com/business/local/sto...s/PE_Biz_D_airline03.214f1073.html



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User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2910 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3300 times:

Yeah I am surprised at PSP too. It just doesn't make sense to me unless Allegiant has some tour packages to make it work. If residents want to get to Vegas cheap, they can drive it or catch WN at ONT with their multiple daily flights.

But great for Allegiant if they can make it work.


User currently offlineVegasplanes From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 778 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3203 times:

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 10):
On the other hand you do have a lot of people and money at both ends and people who live in both areas do take getaway trips. Many probably do not like the I-15 crawl.

I don't know the PSP area that well so I don't know if the preferred route to Vegas by car is west into the SB/Riverside area then north on 15 OR using some of the desert back highways to 15. But it still must be roughly a 4 or 5 hour drive vs. a short flight.

I-15 is hell just about anytime going back and forth to CA. Surpirsed there was not more capacity on this route before hand. Along with the 100 or so flights a day to other SoCal destinations.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26361 posts, RR: 76
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3203 times:

My question is, will this put pressure on OO's flights, given that they operate them "at-risk" even though they are branded as United Express flights?


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User currently offlineN908AW From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 922 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3160 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
My question is, will this put pressure on OO's flights, given that they operate them "at-risk" even though they are branded as United Express flights?

No more than the FAT-LAS -120s are.



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User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4364 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3152 times:
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Quoting AS739X (Reply 5):
Iowaman, Biz market. These are 2 different markets so please don't compare. GEG-SEA, people connecting for business. It also runs as you said a few times a day so you can get home that night, as well as Q400's mixed in. Allegiant, twice weekly with a $29 fare between to leisure destinations, though PSP can get some high fares. But please come back to be with a better comparison then that Iowa.

Correct, they are two different markets, however the point you criticized was that it was a waste of fuel.



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