SolarWind From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 66 posts, RR: 0 Posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6096 times:
I think as similar thread was on the Net some time ago..but I cant find it....So...If you could travel back in time 30 years to 1975...and you spoke to Airline people then what could you say about the Industry of 2005 that would Shock them?..Heres a few..1.A new TWO engine plane would be able to fly 7000 to 8000 mi. Non Stop...2...5 out of the 6 largest US Airlines would take a trip thru Chap. 11..3.The two great US Flag carriers of the 70s..Pan Am, and TWA would be out of Business..4..AA would be the largest Airline in the world..and the largest US carrier in MIA,LHR, and South America (AA didnt have a single flight to any of these in the 70s)..5. CO would be flying NS to PEK and DEL from EWR with a Twin engine plane.no less....What else?..later SW
USADreamliner From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6057 times:
First, Thank you for remind me that I am 30!!!
Sorry boys, no Pan Am flight to the moon.
Airlines offering only peanuts during flight.
OneWorld and Star Alliance.
Aeroflot flying Airbus and Boeing!
There's no flying cars...yet.
Airlines still flying DC-9,707,747-100 and 737-200.
Air France and KLM merger.
Bye, bye Swissair and Sabena.
Hong Kong New york nonstop.
Singapore LAX and New York nonstop.
IFE,PTV's on Economy CLass!
Braniff 1 is gone, Braniff 2 is gone too.
RedFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4315 posts, RR: 28
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6018 times:
Quoting SolarWind (Thread starter): and you spoke to Airline people then what could you say about the Industry of 2005 that would Shock them?.
I hate to disappoint you, but I think their shock would emanate not from what modern aircraft can do or what the state of various airlines are but, rather, from how little progress we've made technologically. Despite the fact that 1975 was somewhat of a "doom-and-gloom" period with people claiming we were running out of global oil and food, aviation was the one bright spot. I think they would be surprised at how little airplanes have in fact changed - despite great performances on just two engines, they are still for the most part an aluminum tube with wings. Perhaps they might be impressed with the composite construction just around the corner (787/350) but they would be surprised that the planes still look the same and fly the same.
Mainliner From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 410 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6018 times:
737's across the Pacific (US mainland to Hawaii, at least)
No supersonic aircraft
30 inch seat pitch in economy
Eurowhite color schemes
PHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7511 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5907 times:
Quoting ToTheStars (Reply 4): I think in 1975 the World Trade Center towers had just been completed...Imagine telling someone that two future airliners piloted by terrorists would be flown into them causing them both to collapse.
Actually, the Twin Towers were completed, I believe, in 1970 & 1972; but nonetheless your point is still valid.
Okie From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2988 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5852 times:
They would notice a cabin full of passengers. 1975 US airlines were not de-regulated yet and were flying many routes with 25% load factors and ticket prices to match the cost of operating near empty airplanes.
I was on a BN flight about that time frame JFK-IAD-OKC-COS myself and 2 other passengers on a 27. Many flights you just picked most any seat as there were few passengers.
Jmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3253 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5622 times:
Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 9): NW did not fly the DC-9 in '75. They came to NW with the RC merger.
In '75, I think NW only flew 707s, 727s, 747s, and DC10s. Those Hughes Airwest bananas flying around at the time would eventually be wearing NW colors some 12 years laters....and by flying around some 20+ years after that! They would evolve into Northwest's Signature fleet type.
TheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 3517 posts, RR: 29
Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 5344 times:
Flying being cheaper than taking the train!
While it is true that the real progress seems to look small, nobody should forget that a 787 is much more advanced airplane than the 747-100.
FBW, glass cockpits, satellite communication, all these things have made it much easier to fly. And don't forget traffic growth. Today Fra has more than 50mio passengers. In the 70s it were maybe 10million. This is a huge difference.
Skydrol From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 964 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 5227 times:
Flying was a fun (and usually infrequent) experience people would pay a lot for
Customer was important
Airline reputation mattered
Food, drinks and space were plentiful
Almost all pax would dress decently for a flight
Concorde was a symbol of aviation technology marvels just around the corner
Flying is a frustrating experience which some people try to avoid
Shareholders only thing that matters
Food? drinks? space? That's what first class is for
Customers are simply a business inconvenience
Many pax dress and act like pigs (or worse)
Concorde a museum display item