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OWNING AN AIRLINE  
User currently offlineERAU From Canada, joined May 1999, 39 posts, RR: 0
Posted (15 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 657 times:

If you could own, one of the airlines that currently exist in the U.S. which one would it be, and what would you change and why?

The same for a foreign airline?

Here goes mine,

In the U.S I would choose US Airways, Why? Because they are headed for a great future, and they have the majority of the East Coast Market.

They also have the highest ppm costs in the industry.

Sure, It helped with the new pilot contract, but that is not enough.

I would buy United Skypath software for my entire fleet, which would allow me to cut flight times and save on fuel consumption. Also as soon as possible I would retire all 727s in the Shuttle, 737s, DC-9s, and 80s, and the Fokker 100s, the F28-1000s are already retired. So I would have a common fleet of only A319s, A320s, 757s, 767s, and A330s (when they arrive). This would drive down costs tremendously, but its something they are already working on in the offices of Arlington, VA.
What else? I would also invest in the new satellite-based landsing system (GLS) (which costs $500,000 for all runways in a 30-mile radius) at my hubs in Charlotte, Pittsburg and Philadelphia, this would allow US Airways to vary all runway approaches into my hubs from the long, straight and low descents required by the currint generation of landing systems. With more precise navigation, my planes would be able to shave flight times and burn less fuel in this manner aswell.

I would also improve my hubs by investing in the new ECAPS, its a new arrival proceedure for aircraft. ECAPS involves aligning two streams of aircraft, one stream is for fast planes and another for slower traffic, planes in the fast lane are brought into the airport ahead of other which also reduces fuel burn. This system is planes to be implemented at Chicago O'Hare!

I dont know if any of you know the different type of hubs, but I would convert all my hubs into connecting complexes, where the planes are only on the ground for 15 minutes or so, this way I could increase frequencies and lower costs like Southwest Airlines does. With all the add capacity I would concentrate on getting all the business class passengers onto my flights. Which means more profits for me!!!!

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User currently offlineUnited777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1657 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (15 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 655 times:

I would Northwest Airlines, this is what I would do.

Aircraft: I would retire all there 727, DC-9, DC-10 and all the older 747 aircraft and replace there 757-200's.
I would replace the DC-10 with new MD-11 aircraft and replace the 727 and DC-9 with new A319 aircraft. I would also get a few 717-200s.

I would have a fleet of A319s, A320s, A330-300s, 747-400s, 757-200, 767-400s and MD-11 aircraft.

A319 - For domestic routes
A320 - For domestic routes and intercontinental-routes.
A330 - For routes to Europe
747-400 - For routes to Asia
757-200 - For Domestic Routes
767-400 - For routes to Europe
MD-11 - Routes to Asia and Europe.

I would expand the routes more into Asia, South Pacific, Middle East and Africa and South America.

I would make the hubs in Los Angles, Boston and Washington and keep the hubs in Detroit and Minneapolis and take out the memphis hub and keep mini-hubs in Seattle, Tokyo and Singapore.


User currently offlineIainhol From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (15 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 655 times:

In this forum we need to stop the US bit. I got an E-mail today by a member of this forum and we both agree that it should just be world. Then you are comparing against everyone. People from other countries that visit this forum might never have flown a US airline. I have only flown AA once and I much rather perpher BA or BM or most UK carriers.
But in answer to you Question.
US I would own Skywest and for no reason I woud change it by flying 747 and no other planes.

In the world I would own BA and I would change them, buy paying the owner 100% of the prfoits.
Iain


User currently offlineBryan From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (15 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 655 times:

Wow.
That's an interesting plan Erau. Obviously, one day you are gonna become part of this nation's next generation of right wing millionares, At least that way you wont have to pay any taxes :)! Good luck to you!, if that's what you want.
Personally I'd prefer the future of Civil aviation not to concentrate on profits, but instead on service and saftey.
I'd probably buy American Airlines if I had to buy a US airline. I would then add more F.100s, F.70s, A300s, MD-11s and for regional I'd have all F.50s. This would still be cost effective too, because they are all made by common makers.

Bryan


User currently offlinen4khgirl From United States of America, joined May 1999, 297 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (15 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 656 times:

I'd like to own either United or Delta just because they have a pretty cool fleet. And for a regional airline I would like to own Comair because they fly CRJ's to almost every place that they fly to. I wouldn't mind owning ASA as well because they fly to almost every little city that you can think of in the Southeast (like Meridian MS and Lafayette LA)
See ya later,
Camille


User currently offlineERAU From Canada, joined May 1999, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (15 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 655 times:

In response to someones reply about safety, I would definitely make safety a top priorty if not first!!! Profits are not as important as people who could loose their lives.

But I am still not done, what else would I do?

I would model my airlines service after the Asian Airlines, they are known to have the best and most friendly service, sorry KLM F/As, but its true.

I would serve food even on two hour flights for one thing. On short flights though I would do away with the cart in the cabin. Southwest F/As use a tray that hold nine cups at a time. Every passenger would recieve a card asking them what they want to drink, A row and a half at a time the flight attendants would pick up the cards, look at the seat number and take them their drinks, then half way through the flight the F/A would go around and offer refills to those who wanted them.
Its not much but this way passengers dont feel so much like they are being cheated.

Like Alaska Airlines is doing I would implement a system where a computer chip in the passengers frequent lyer card automatically checks passengers in upon arrival at the airport, all there is left to do for passengers that need to check baggage is ask the safety precaution questions and take their bags, if you dont have baggage to check, then just do straight to the gate!

Something I just thought of, what if airlines offered mileage bonuses for passengers who were a sertain number of minutes early before a flight, that would help boarding and checking in wouldnt it.

With hubs that are connecting complexes, it is possible passengers would have to wait pretty long for their connecting flight, I would have a Country Club style Club, that would totally pamper my passengers, from massages, to acupuncter, to facials, and manucures, and hot tubs, and saunas, and swimming pools, office space, tennis courts, showers, locker rooms, hair salon and barber, shoe shine, small little rooms with beds to take a nap, a restaurant, track, climbing wall, cigar bar, oxygen bar, regular bar, oops gotta leave some room for gates, j/k.

This makes so much sense, it would just take a lot of planning and coordination, planes would be in the air more and passengers better taken care of on the ground.

Looks like all the money I would save on fuel from my last post I would spend on better service.

ERAU


User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4454 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (15 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 655 times:

If I could own an American airline it would be United. I wouldn't change much because it is quite possibly the world's best but I would order the 737NG instead of the Airbus A320 family. I would also keep the 747 "Classics" around and operate them more to Europe.

If I could own an international carrier it would be Cathay Pacific. I would sell the A330/340 aircraft and order more 777-200/300 to take there place. The 747-200s and 747-300s would be brought back to fly intra-Asia service, and 747-400 would be counted on to fly the majority of the international routes. I would order the 747-400X and 747-400LRX and replace the 747-400 fleet with them on the long haul routes. Then I would re-retire the 747-200/300 aircraft, and fill in their routes with 747-400s. The fleet would perfectly match and be quite cohesive. 777-200/300 for short haul routes, 747-400 for longer intra-Asian routes, and 747-400X and 747-400LRX for long haul routes to Europe and America.



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