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User currently offlineWDBRR From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 610 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3769 times:

I know that Jetblue started with gates A21 and A22.
were these former Air Canada gates? noticed they
occasionally use gate A18 in another concourse was
this ATA's former gate? noticed Continental uses gates
A20 and A23 in the same concourse.

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User currently offlineJerseyGuy From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1829 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3620 times:
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Hmm..I wonder if the situation is temporary at A18 or if B6 will start additional flights out of EWR in the near future, from what I've heard the FL flights are doing well. It would be nice to see Jetblue expand at EWR. Maybe a EWR-LGB flight for connections to West Coast cities.


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21416 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3599 times:

Quoting JerseyGuy (Reply 1):
Maybe a EWR-LGB flight for connections to West Coast cities.

B6 is not a connections airline. Further, they don't fly anywhere on the west coast from LGB outside of Oakland.

B6 is not the answer to all aviation questions, despite what you have heard. Outside the Northeast, they barely serve anywhere but some low yield vacation spots and some MAJOR cities around the nation.

Of course you could fly any other airline out of EWR and connect to many west coast locations (or fly directly from EWR on CO to a huge number of destinations around the country or the world for a good price), but why bother doing that? Why support the airline that has made EWR what it is without totally screwing over it's local population?

It's a much better idea to just hope and pray B6 decides to serve someplace you wanted to fly from EWR, since they are the only answer...



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User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3603 times:

They(B6) fly LGB-LAS,OAK and SLC, I would think those are west coast cities


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User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4312 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3611 times:
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Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 2):
B6 is not a connections airline.

What about the upstate NY-JFK runs?

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 2):
Further, they don't fly anywhere on the west coast from LGB outside of Oakland.

What about SEA, PDX, SMF, SJC, ONT, BUR, SAN? They also fly to LAS, PHX, SLC, and DEN in the western U.S.


User currently offlineJerseyGuy From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1829 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3593 times:
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Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 2):
B6 is not a connections airline.

Tell that to the people from BUF, SYR, ROC, BTV, and soon RIC who will be connecting to many destinations on B6 such as MCO, TPA, RSW, LGB, SLC, LAS.

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 2):
Of course you could fly any other airline out of EWR and connect to many west coast locations (or fly directly from EWR on CO to a huge number of destinations around the country or the world for a good price),

If my travels take me to a place that Jetblue doesn't fly then I will do that. You like Continental, I like Jetblue.

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 2):
It's a much better idea to just hope and pray B6 decides to serve someplace you wanted to fly from EWR, since they are the only answer...

Jetblue..Its not the only answer but it should be  Big grin



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User currently offlineCory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2686 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3620 times:

Quoting JerseyGuy (Reply 5):
Jetblue..Its not the only answer but it should be

I understand that you like B6, and that's fine, but have fun traveling anywhere internationally on B6 except for NAS, STI, or CUN.

You may not like CO, but let me know how your flight goes on B6 next time to try to travel from EWR to HKG, NRT, LGW, DEL, GRU, PEK, OSL, ARN, CPH, FRA, MAN, BHX, BFS, DUB, SNN, CGN, HAM, TXL, FCO, MXP, GLA, EDI, GVA, ZRH, MAD, LIS, BCN, AMS, BRU, BRS, CDG, MEX, SJD, ACA, PVR, GUA, LIR, STT, AUA, ANU, SXM, BDACUR, BGI, GCM, SDQ, POP, PUJ, KIN, MBJ, POS, GUA, SJO, PTY, UIO, GYE, LIM, BOG, BZE, FPO, YYZ, YVR, YHZ, YYT, YYJ, or YYC.

What about SRQ, DAB, CAE, CHS, BWI, DCA, IAD, IAH, DFW, SAT, MSP, DTW, MKE, HNL, MCI, STL, ORD, MDW, IND, CLE, CMH, SDF, BNA, SJC, ABQ, OKC, OMA, TYS, GRR, MSN, ORF, ALB, BTV, MHT, ACK, BDL, AVL, MYR, SAV, GSP, GSO, or JAX?

You simply cannot deny that CO offers service that is incomparable to B6, regardless of how fantastic you might think that B6 is.


User currently offlineRAMPRAT980 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 600 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3412 times:

Airlines like Jet Blue compete with Amtrak and Greyhound. They would never be able to go toe to toe with the likes of CO.


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User currently offlineJetBluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2937 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3390 times:

Quoting RAMPRAT980 (Reply 7):
Airlines like Jet Blue compete with Amtrak and Greyhound. They would never be able to go toe to toe with the likes of CO.

I'd strongly recommend re-thinking that statement.

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User currently offlineJerseyGuy From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1829 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3441 times:
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Quoting Cory6188 (Reply 6):
Quoting JerseyGuy (Reply 5):
Jetblue..Its not the only answer but it should be

It was a joke. Ikramerica said that I thought Jetblue was the answer to everything.

Quoting Cory6188 (Reply 6):
You may not like CO, but let me know how your flight goes on B6 next time to try to travel from EWR to HKG, NRT, LGW, DEL, GRU, PEK, OSL, ARN, CPH, FRA, MAN, BHX, BFS, DUB, SNN, CGN, HAM, TXL, FCO, MXP, GLA, EDI, GVA, ZRH, MAD, LIS, BCN...

They don't fly to the cities you mentioned. Neither did Continental five years after it started business.

Quoting Cory6188 (Reply 6):
You simply cannot deny that CO offers service that is incomparable to B6, regardless of how fantastic you might think that B6 is.

Service has nothing to do with the amount of flights you have or the number of cities you serve. In what aspects does Continental have better service then Jetblue?

I never told anyone NOT to fly Continental, all I did was wonder if Jetblue would expand at EWR. Just like I'm sure you have, wondering if Continental will serve XYZ or if they will increase the frequency of a certain route. All of a sudden people start attacking me for liking Jetblue.



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User currently offlineCOEWR777 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 428 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3355 times:

War lol Jetblue sucks end of statement!

User currently offlineCory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2686 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3318 times:

Quoting COEWR777 (Reply 10):
Jetblue sucks end of statement!

That's not really too fair of a statement either. B6 does have good service, no doubt about it, but sometimes, people often completely overlook the fact that B6 has fundamental shortcomings, such as its almost complete lack of international service.

I never said it's inflight service was poor - believe me, for as much as I like CO, inflight TV tops it all.


User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3293 times:

Every time the CO vs B6 thing comes up someone goes to international service but CO didn't have that when they were 5, it took a long time and service on-board jetBlue I feel beets it, not counting in FF miles or any other crap, but on board B6 has an edge.
Now this topic is about B6 using A18 in EWR not listing CO destinations.

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User currently offlineMX757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 628 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3279 times:

Quoting WDBRR (Thread starter):
I know that Jetblue started with gates A21 and A22.
were these former Air Canada gates? noticed they
occasionally use gate A18 in another concourse was
this ATA's former gate? noticed Continental uses gates
A20 and A23 in the same concourse.

Getting back to the subject of this thread. The gates B6 are using in EWR are old Song gates. They pulled out last September.



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User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3265 times:

Quoting Cory6188 (Reply 11):
people often completely overlook the fact that B6 has fundamental shortcomings, such as its almost complete lack of international service.

When CO was 5, did they serve Chicago? Does JetBlue? It's only the 3rd biggest metro area in the US.


User currently offlineBigdrewfl From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3251 times:

Yes Jetblue is getting one more gate at EWR!!! (its confirmed) Rumor has it that Jetblue will go from 17 Flights a day to a range of 30-35 Flights a day by this coming Spring!!!!

Congrats Jetblue! Load factors out of EWR are excellent!!!


User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24635 posts, RR: 86
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3234 times:
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Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 14):
When CO was 5, did they serve Chicago?

I'm not sure - did they? I can't find a reliable history that mentions the first service to Chicago.

Depends when you think they started, maybe. If you include Varney Airlines, I don't think they served Chicago until much, much later.

And I don't think - I could be wrong - that they had flown a transcon by the time they were five years old.

But then again, I am not sure why every US airline has to serve every US city.

For example, a lot of people think that Alaska Airlines is not quite as good as it was when it was serving just Alaska, the West Cost and Mexico.

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User currently offlineTpaewr From United States of America, joined May 2001, 450 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3228 times:

Rather than worry about what CO or B6 did a 5, I'd question if B6 will see 70+ like CO, I doubt it. CO barely did itself!

User currently offlineApodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4124 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3206 times:

Quoting MX757 (Reply 13):
Getting back to the subject of this thread. The gates B6 are using in EWR are old Song gates. They pulled out last September.

You mean Song was in a different terminal than regular Delta, since Delta is in B, and if what you are saying is true, Song was in A? That doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense to me.

Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't Air Canada in C for a while handled by CO when the two airlines had a very close relationship, before Air Canada jumped ship, joined Star Alliance, and became close with United?


User currently offlineJetBluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2937 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3138 times:

Quoting Bigdrewfl (Reply 15):
Yes Jetblue is getting one more gate at EWR!!! (its confirmed) Rumor has it that Jetblue will go from 17 Flights a day to a range of 30-35 Flights a day by this coming Spring!!!!

Congrats Jetblue! Load factors out of EWR are excellent!!!

They're getting a third gate? That's great news! I would think 25-30 flights would be likely with three gates, but if they can do more then all the more power to them. I'd expect to see increased flights to Florida and a few flights out to the West Coast. They've been doing really well out of EWR (and have a higher yield than JFK flights), so I wouldn't be surprised to see additional flights very soon.

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User currently offlineRAMPRAT980 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 600 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3110 times:

Quoting Bigdrewfl (Reply 15):
Yes Jetblue is getting one more gate at EWR!!! (its confirmed) Rumor has it that Jetblue will go from 17 Flights a day to a range of 30-35 Flights a day by this coming Spring!!!!

Jet Blue has been using gate 16 for the past three weeks.



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User currently offlineLetsgetwet From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 609 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3090 times:

Quoting JerseyGuy (Reply 9):
They don't fly to the cities you mentioned. Neither did Continental five years after it started business.


No airline did when they started flying. (1934)


User currently offlineLetsgetwet From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 609 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3077 times:

Quoting JetBlueAtJFK (Reply 12):
not counting in FF miles or any other crap

What is "other crap"? Do you mean Bus/first, or real food?


User currently offlineJerseyGuy From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1829 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3066 times:
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Quoting Letsgetwet (Reply 21):
No airline did when they started flying. (1934)

Ok, fair enough. My point was that Continental is 70+ years old and Jetblue is 5.



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User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2956 times:

Quoting Mariner (Reply 16):

But then again, I am not sure why every US airline has to serve every US city.

I agree with that, but my only point is that Chicago is the #3 city in the US and JetBlue doesn't even serve that, just overflying it (not literally, but by criss-crossing the US, figuratively) because they, like most other LCC's, are a NICHE AIRLINE. Jet Blue's niche is relatively premium service on East-West coast transcons, and then runs up and down those respective coasts (i.e. Florida). You can't compare Jet Blue to CO, nor can you do likewise with WN to AA, or any other crackpot comparisons A.net makes. They're niche airlines. That's why you don't see them running small props to places like ERI, and why you don't see them offering first class service and mileage upgrades for Transatlantic flights, they serve their niche, and most of them serve it quite well.


25 JBLUA320 : I dont think that new gate is an ex-song gate. When I flew song out of EWR, they used DLs gates in the B terminal (B42 I think). JBLU
26 Post contains images JetBlueAtJFK : No I don't care about there First or food because I think airline food is garbage anyway, I am saying the connections they offer and all that stuff.
27 Post contains images Tommy767 : Congrats to B6 at EWR, with making things more competitive. I never supported CO with their terminal A gates as other airlines are barely getting by w
28 Post contains images MiCorazonAzul : and CO started flying to all those cities 5 years after they started operations right? Incomparable because we have the best service over CO or any o
29 ARGinLON : Micorazonazul???? Is that for B6? If it is, You cannot be serious mate...
30 COfaninBOS : CO doesn't make you pay for food in economy. They serve free meals at meal time. Here's why I like Continental... 1) Great customer service, especiall
31 Post contains images MiCorazonAzul : Its the name of my favorite JetBlue plane........
32 Post contains images Kahala777 : Just a word to the wise there are a few more airlines at Newark than Continental Airlines. All of which offer many, many connections. Air Canada, Air
33 Ikramerica : That's silly. They are a NORTHEASTERN carrier that basically serves VACATION destinations. That's it. That's all they are. They are basically a point
34 Iowaman : They are a O&D oriented airline, however they are more than happy to have someone connect from those cities in New England. Correct, and the NYC-L.A.
35 JerseyGuy : All I hope for is that Jetblue will expand its flights out of EWR because it is closer to me. If it doesn't happen, I'll continue to go to JFK. It lo
36 Post contains images JetBlueAtJFK : BUF ROC SYR are not in New England only BTV and soon BOS-JFK is a connecting flight from New England. Otherwise B6 was started on NY-Florida, with up
37 BigB : I must step in to say this now. Until B6 can fly me BDL-JFK-IAH or PVD-JFK-IAH, round trip, B6 isn't anyone to me.
38 N908AW : No, he's right on. B6 is a great airline, but you can't compare them to CO, an airline that serves basically every decent-sized city in the South Cen
39 JetBluefan1 : I meant the comment of him comparing JetBlue passengers to the likes of those traveling on Amtrak and Greyhound. That's faux pas. JetBluefan1
40 Tornado82 : Florida to ___ (basically anywhere east of the Mississippi) is not "large yield producing." The yields on those runs are low, as a cause and effect o
41 Iowaman : B6 isn't anyone to a good chunk of the nation unfortunately.
42 Post contains images Tornado82 : Oh, but just read some of those "B6 E190 routes" threads, Iowaman. I'm sure that one of those E-Jets is even coming to CID if you read enough of them.
43 Ikramerica : Yeah, we aren't putting B6 down. It's just their business to do these certain things, and it becomes a little tiring to hear people expect them to do
44 N62NA : Correct. Song always flew out of the DL gates in B.
45 Post contains images Iowaman : Oh yeah, I'm sure CID is on the high priority list for B6.
46 DETA737 : It's a bit silly to compare Jetblue to Continental. They're both different airlines with different business models. However, no one can say that Jetbl
47 Post contains images Tommy767 : With all this talk of new planes and PTVs, I guess I'm the only person who actually enjoys flying on old 767s This thread has seriously become a war b
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