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Airports With The Worst/bumpiest Runways?  
User currently offlineVH-BZF From Australia, joined Oct 1999, 838 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 15887 times:

Recently business has taken me to both Singapore & Hong Kong & I must admit that both these airports have very bumpy runways. Both times I flew in and out on an A330-300, not that this should have anything to do with it! I just found it interesting & wondered why?

I asked the Captain on the Singapore flight why & he said to me that it is probably something to do with the fact these runways are on reclaimed land and that it could have something to do with that? I understand we took off on RWY 2L at SIN, not sure which one (could be 25R????) at HKG?

Any ideas & your thoughts on the worlds worst runways? I think Darwin in Australia is probably our worst, very undulating, with makes it difficult if you land/flare in the wrong spot!

Cheers BZF  bouncy 


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User currently offlineAirzim From Zimbabwe, joined Jun 2001, 1208 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 15853 times:

Manila. Hands down.

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User currently offlineSaab2000 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2001, 1610 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 15843 times:

Newark on one of the runways has some pretty big bumps right at the beginning of the roll. If you are not prepared for it you think something is wrong with the plane. I nearly aborted a take-off there once.

Philadelphia has some really bumpy taxiways too. I was told that it is because of the long periods on the summer where the taxiway is really hot and a plane sits on it for several minutes at a time.



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User currently offlineCOEWR From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 273 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 15830 times:

Quoting VH-BZF (Thread starter):
not sure which one (could be 25R????) at HKG?

actually the whole airport of HKG is on reclaimed land. Quite an interesting little island. The Maintenance facility CO uses (HAECO) has their hanger there.

anyway, back to the topic at hand...EWR, at least before the runway resurfacing...not sure about now as I hardly fly in or out of there anymore.

-C


User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3704 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 15795 times:
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Runyway 22 in LGA feels like is filled with potholes. I'm sure there are many others.


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User currently offlineMD80fanatic From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2660 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 15777 times:

I remember old Robert Mueller (ex-KAUS) rwy 13/31 was a bit bumpy.

User currently offlineDeskPilot From Australia, joined Apr 2004, 767 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 15766 times:

Quoting VH-BZF (Thread starter):
Recently business has taken me to both Singapore & Hong Kong

Recently flew into HK in a CX A330 too. I don't think HK was any worse than other airports.

Back in the early 90's I went to Thailand on holidays - I thought Bangkok was bumpy, and I think even the captain had pre-warned everyone beforehand.



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User currently offlineAMS From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1691 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 15702 times:

Frankfurt am Main airport in Germany also had some bad runways a couple of years ago, however I believe FRA has been working to improve their runways for a while, also San Francisco has a very bumpy runway.

Regards,
AMS


User currently offlineMarshalN From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2005, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 15702 times:

Considering the recent news about Lagos... wouldn't they have the worst runways? They actually cause damage to the planes because there are potholes

User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2998 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 15678 times:

This one is a bit bumpy:

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User currently offlineSCXmechanic From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 534 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 15592 times:

MUHA was the bumpiest I ever experienced. After several trips in and out of there, I have a whole new respect for Boeing 727 landing gear!

Speaking of landing gear and bumpy runways. I wonder MSP's MAC has fixed the dent in 30L from us landing a DC-10 and the Captain pulling reverse with us 10 feet AGL in the flair. Now that was something. I've never seen an airplane just stop flying and fall like that. A landing I shall never forget!

Now that I think about it Yap, Micronesia's runway had some pretty big holes in it. Weaving on landing or takeoff around the big ones was some fun I heard.
Maybe someone in the area has some better info. This was back in '95 when we were hauling fish into PGUM from the other islands.


User currently offlineSmcmac32msn From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 15574 times:

Columbus, OH (KCMH) used to have some pretty bumpy runways, but they've done a nice job since about 2002 in the repaving efforts. Now they are smooth.


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User currently offlineMidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 15550 times:

Bumpiest runway for me was when I was on a 747-200 taking off out of Khabarovsk (KHV), the airport was built in WWII & it felt like there were speed bumps on the runway.....


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User currently offlineFilejw From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 359 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 15526 times:

Anybody been to BOM.Can't any worst that that.The panel on the A/C shakes bad you can't read the instruments.

User currently offlineGEnxPower From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 121 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 15511 times:

After about 12 post, there is still not consensus. 12 post with almost 12 different opinions so far!

I fly often in and out of CVG/DTW/ORD/LAX/NRT/SIN but I'm not sure I can single any of them out. There was a time years ago when I frequent LHR, CDG and AMS too. I guess I don't notice really bad bumps before, or because I haven't been traveling all that much. I will leave it to the ultra frequent flyers and pilots for this one.


User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13138 posts, RR: 100
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 15503 times:
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Just a factoid: the highest normal stress on the wing occurs when the plane hits a pothole. The shear pin that holds on the engines was designed for this criteria.

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineTozairport From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 686 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15366 times:

I have lost a couple of teeth crossing the 28L/R - 1L/R intersection taking off from SFO. It seems particularly bad when taking off on 28L and hitting (literally) the 1R intersection.


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User currently offlineBA747400 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15362 times:

Oh man, first airport that comes to mind....LGA!!


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Mike


User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15349 times:

If you want to feel some really rough runwys, try some of Russia's airports. In particular. St. Petersberg comes to mind. There is a reason for those big tires on Russian airliners!

User currently offlinePlaneDane From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15319 times:

Quoting VH-BZF (Thread starter):
Any ideas & your thoughts on the worlds worst runways? I think Darwin in Australia is probably our worst, very undulating, with makes it difficult if you land/flare in the wrong spot!

It's got to be Odessa, Ukraine! You'll have to experience it to believe how bad a runway can be!


User currently offlineFCYTravis From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1191 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 15177 times:

Mexico City's Benito Juarez International Airport.

It doesn't help that at 7,000 feet AMSL, a takeoff roll in an AA 738 takes forever. The roll felt like we were trying to take off from a poorly maintained city street - every expansion joint slammed the plane back and forth.



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User currently offlineEmiratesUK From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 288 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 15172 times:

St Petersburg LED, flew back from LED in Sept. Definitely one of the worst.


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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24936 posts, RR: 56
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 15112 times:

Birmingham (BHX/EGBB), it's not a runway but a roller coaster  Wow!


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User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2238 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 15040 times:

LAGOS, L A G O S, LOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its truly a plane-shattering experience!!!



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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7412 posts, RR: 57
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 14993 times:

Quoting Crownvic (Reply 18):
If you want to feel some really rough runwys, try some of Russia's airports. In particular. St. Petersberg comes to mind. There is a reason for those big tires on Russian airliners!



Quoting EmiratesUK (Reply 21):
St Petersburg LED, flew back from LED in Sept. Definitely one of the worst.

I also "vote" for LED, especially 10R/28L
This is the worst ever Rwy I've experienced in Europe.

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25 Post contains links Kiwiandrew : according to this article BFI is pretty bad - you have to scroll down a bit to get to it - according to the reporter the runway was never fully repair
26 Babaero : Must agree with the first reply...Manila is so bad, they do resurfacing work most nights just to maintain a usable runway.
27 Brokenrecord : KDH is by far the worst runway on which I have landed. This is due to the fact that it was shelled quite a bit when Kandahar was a hot zone.
28 Pomnath : Moscow, Kathmandu, these are my two worst ones.
29 VEEREF : Definitely Lagos,with Caracas running a close second of all the airports I've operated into. 21R at Panama is interesting as well.
30 Tom in NO : The reason for that is that most runways are constructed with a crown running down the middle of the runway. They're built that way to facilitate dra
31 Post contains images 2H4 : If you want to have some fun, get a 152 and do some touch and goes on Ann Arbor, Michigan's runway 12. It's grass, and as you can see here, it crosse
32 FLAIRPORT : LGA is the worst, EWR is still pretty bad...ATL does a good job considering the # of flights FLL used to be the worst before resurfacing, though...I a
33 Post contains images IAHFLYR : All are if they have centerline lights and pilot decides to ride the nosewheel along them!
34 PeachAir : The worst runway/taxiways I have ever been on is Guarulhos - Sao Paulo, BR (SBGR). These were by far the bumpiest.
35 Metalinyoni : Gatwick is pretty bad - I remember taking off in a 757-200 with only 14 passengers on board fying to Geneva so the plane was really light and it was b
36 AirEuropeUK733 : I flew into/out of the old Athens airport way back in 1987 and I swear the runway had potholes in it. At one point I thought we were disappearing down
37 Post contains links and images AirbusA346 : To improve the runways at FRA they have been resurfacing them. They have all ready resurfaced the North Runways 25R/07L Some Pics. MyAviation.net pho
38 AA777 : I've never had a 'smooth' takeoff from MIA RWY 8L.... It may be the lights...or i dont know what...its ALWAYS bumpy...like there are potholes or rough
39 IAirAllie : Bishkek was pretty rough! I watched Marines go pale and cling to seatbacks on one landing.
40 Burnsie28 : If its worth anything, many airliners in India have double bogeys on the A320 for runways because of the poor conditions of runways there.
41 Pomnath : Only the "original" A-320s for Indian Airlines bought over a decade ago had and have double bogeys. The newer ones with Air Deccan and Kingfisher, as
42 Post contains images Viscount630 : The Bristol (BRS) runway has always been infamous for it's "dip". I THINK it's because it was built over two neighboring hilltops (which are GREAT for
43 IRelayer : SAN has a pretty bumpy runway. Or maybe it just feels like it b/c most of the time we just slam into the runway on landing w/full reverse thrust... -I
44 Post contains images TupolevTu154 : I don't know about runway, but taxiway... The roughest I've been on is in PHX. I don't know the runway number or anything, but the taxiway is immediat
45 JFK998 : Even though I am a proud New Yorker.... I have to say LGA has the bumpiest runway..
46 Post contains images Trekster : SFO was not bumpy from what i can recall of it. Bumpiest id say is LOS, but i have never been there, just heard about it. Cant recall a really bumpy l
47 Post contains images Thegooddoctor : I second the vote for Santo Domingo (SDQ) as the bumpiest high-use runway. My first landing there was on a fully loaded 767-400 and we started hitting
48 Cure : I remember Guatemala City's La Aurora being really veeeeeeery bumpy when I flew out of it with KLM.
49 Soaringadi : SJC intl. Runway 29.
50 N1120A : Take a look at Avalon, Catalina Island, CA and that runway. It is in horrible condition AND ends at a cliff
51 ERJ145LR : Well, I dont know if this is normal or not, but I do remeber at some point in DFW's taxiways, there is sort of an upslope, which was very noticible on
52 PanAm747 : Actually, I have found SAN's runway very smooth...landed there once on runway 9 (the opposite way) due to a storm blowing in with very strong gusts,
53 TPEcanuck : I'll put in a vote for Tainan Airpot in Taiwan. It's not international, so maybe it doesn't count! It's not so much a bump, but a lift...hit it about
54 LawnDart : BGR - Bangor, Maine. Well, not the runway especially, but the taxiway that parallels it. In my earlier days as a flight attendant, we landed in BGR, a
55 QQflyboy : I add my vote for SDQ, too. Pilots usually try to keep the nose off the ground as long as possible when landing to help smooth the ride, but it does l
56 Post contains images VH-BZF : I remember seeing a documentary on the construction of the new Chek Lap Kok airport & the huge number of pylons they had to drive into the bed rock to
57 LGA777 : When you depart on Runway 13 in LGA the intersection with Runway 4-22 is only 1000 feet from the begining of the takeoff roll and you really feel it a
58 LobsterTail : EVN is the only airport I have landed at where the Captain has warned us before landing of the bumpy runway.
59 Post contains images QM001 : Guys, Hands down it has to be one of the following three... DAR LUN FIB There used to be a joke going around that when you saw two bunny ears sticking
60 Lamedianaranja : LOS still hasn't been fixed up to KL-standards. Just after KL588 came in this morning from LOS the outgoing flight was cancelled, because of runway co
61 Glareskin : I've read that KL cancelled all flights until the conditions will improve. Thus, eventhough I've never been there, I agree that LOS must have the wor
62 Bogota : A little of cultural awareness would be nice. Latinamericans who live abroad usually clap when they arrive back at home. They love getting out of whe
63 Thegooddoctor : Bogota, forgive my cultural stupidity, it's been so hard to free myself from the bonds of my own repressive ignorance.... I keep forgetting how that
64 Post contains images Bomber996 : SDQ recently got a face lift on the Taxiways. Nice new black asphalt. I don't know if this has extended to the runway yet. I haven't been there since
65 Crosscountry : Ladies and Gentlemen....welcome to Blackpool!!! Potholes-a-gogo!
66 Cessna172RG : Have you guys thought about Runway Lights? I flew JAL and ANA a few times, and they taxi and take off directly on the runway lights. They can cause qu
67 HAWAIIAN932 : Guatemala City gets my vote. I remember flying in there from LAX and the pilot actually warned us not to panic because of a severe "dip" in the runway
68 Aer : Awww come on it's not that severe, it's just a small inclination on the runway that needs leveling, but that's about it, you can't even notice it. It
69 Ckfred : This was about 13 years ago, but it was at MSY. A friend of mine is an F/O with AA, and at the time, he was flying 727s. They were departing MSY with
70 NAVEGA : Hands Down, Montreal International in Canada..
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