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777LR Record Flight  
User currently offlineSq212 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 272 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 27751 times:

Just heard it CNN news.

Record flight will be from HKG to LHR.

MISSION BRIEFING
Flight plan: Take off from Hong Kong International Airport; travel over north Pacific Ocean; fly over North America; and then cross over the mid/north Atlantic Ocean en route to land at London (Heathrow). The exact flight path will be determined by the flight crew prior to the flight.

Airplane designation: BOE002

Anticipated flight time: Approximately 23-24 hours

Planned takeoff weight: Approximately 695,000 pounds (315,252 kg)

Fuel: About 350,000 pounds (158,760 kg)

Engines: General Electric GE90-110B1L

Planned engine thrust level: 110,000 pounds

Anticipated altitude: Beginning of flight: 29,000 feet (8839 meters) Final altitude: 41,000 feet (12,496 meters)

Anticipated test air speed: Approximately 475 knots (about 546 mph or 879 kph)

Additional passengers: Total passenger and crew count is 35, including additional crew, media, Boeing executives, airline representatives and program partners.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/boeing/longestflight/

Boeing has created a Web site to let the general public monitor the mission, which will begin at 6:30 a.m. Wednesday (PST):
www.777.newairplane.com

Cheers

[Edited 2005-11-09 02:41:53]

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User currently offlineMarshalN From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2005, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 27647 times:

Ugh, sitting in a plane for 24 hours..... the horrors.

User currently offlineKaitak744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2370 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 27575 times:

Hong Kong? Thats rather interesting. I thought they would do it from Singapore or Sydney (through Asia) instead.

User currently offlineAC787 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 337 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 27545 times:

Will this record flight prove anything to airlines such as Qantas who are skeptical of its range when it comes to the ULLH routes such as SYD-LHR?

User currently offlineQANTAS077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5855 posts, RR: 40
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 27519 times:

it's old news...this was made mention of back in july or so, the route takes the flight from HKG directly over Seattle and onwards to London, though i believe it's Gatwick and not Heathrow.


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User currently offlineNAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9909 posts, RR: 36
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 27515 times:

Thanks for spotting this, Sq212. Something genuinely innovative for once - maybe even historic.

Interesting that the fuel load quoted (350,000 pounds) looks pretty close to the 772LR's normal capacity with the standard arrangement of three long-range tanks (53,440 USG.). A 747ER or an A380 would need a lot more fuel than that just to get from Hong Kong to LAX!



[Edited 2005-11-09 03:41:19]


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User currently offlineSq212 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 272 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 27485 times:

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 2):
Hong Kong? Thats rather interesting. I thought they would do it from Singapore or Sydney (through Asia) instead.

The attached link should give further details on site selection:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/247543_record09.html

Cheers


User currently offlineIncitatus From Brazil, joined Feb 2005, 4009 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 27432 times:

That got me thinking about a real pair of airports that could be as far as possible to get the 777 from antipode to antipode instead of a "world-detour" route.

How about
LIM BKK 12239 mi
PVG ROS 12245 mi
SIN UIO 12255 mi
KUL GYE 12330 mi
MAD WLG 12335 mi
TPE ASU 12367 mi



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User currently offlineAdriaticus From Mexico, joined May 2004, 1137 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 27354 times:

Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 4):
i believe it's Gatwick and not Heathrow

It's LHR.

From Boeing's news release:
http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2005/q4/nr_051108h.html

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User currently offlineQANTAS077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5855 posts, RR: 40
Reply 9, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 27329 times:

Quoting Adriaticus (Reply 8):
It's LHR.

From Boeing's news release:
http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/....html

makes no mention of London Heathrow at all...



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User currently offlineAdriaticus From Mexico, joined May 2004, 1137 posts, RR: 19
Reply 10, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 27308 times:

Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 9):
makes no mention of London Heathrow at all...

At the end of the third paragraph: << Guinness World Records representatives will be monitoring the flight's progress and meeting it upon landing at Heathrow to present it with the Guinness World Record certificate. >>

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User currently offlineDalecary From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 27298 times:

Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 9):
makes no mention of London Heathrow at all...

Read the above quoted Seattle Times article. Talks about a slot at Heathrow at about 10.30am for the waiting media. Interestingly, the Boeing press release also mentions that SQ pilots as well as PIA pilots will be on board.
I had no idea that HKG-LHR was a done deal for this flight. Had been mentioned, but so had SIN,KUL,SYD and other Asia-Pacific cities.


User currently offlineMidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 27289 times:

Quote:
In addition to the crew, passengers onboard the flight include Boeing executives, journalists from media organizations around the world, pilots from Pakistan International Airlines and Singapore Airlines, and representatives from General Electric Aircraft Engines, the maker of the efficient and reliable GE90-115B engines that power the 777-200LR and 777-300ER (Extended Range).

I wonder if Singapore Airlines is going to write a check for a future order on the plane, or after landing, HA!  Smile



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User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 13, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 27263 times:

Quoting AC787 (Reply 3):
Will this record flight prove anything to airlines such as Qantas who are skeptical of its range when it comes to the ULLH routes such as SYD-LHR?

I also think Boeing chose the route poorly. My suggestion here many months ago was LHR-SYD westbound i.e. the long way around against the wind. If it can do that, it can do anything (with a light payload).


User currently offlineScotron11 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1178 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 27233 times:

Interesting to note that the pilots that will be on board are not only from PIA, but from SIA as well, and SIA haven't ordered the model, yet.

Could be they will?


User currently offlineMidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 27219 times:

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 13):
I also think Boeing chose the route poorly. My suggestion here many months ago was LHR-SYD westbound i.e. the long way around against the wind. If it can do that, it can do anything (with a light payload).

Flying that route, does not set the Long Distance Record, which is based on mileage, now, flying the LHR-SYD is difficult due to the winds, but, not based on mileage......



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User currently offlineAdriaticus From Mexico, joined May 2004, 1137 posts, RR: 19
Reply 16, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 27197 times:

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 13):
I also think Boeing chose the route poorly. My suggestion here many months ago was LHR-SYD westbound i.e. the long way around against the wind. If it can do that, it can do anything

Ditto. Checking performance on a AKL-LHR-AKL test roundtrip would have been a nice-to-see instead... At just 11404 nm.

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User currently offlineIloveboeing From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 796 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 27159 times:

I'm in Hong Kong right now! I'm going to see if I can go to the airport tonight (I guess it would be a 10:30 PM departure) and see the 772LR off!

Good luck to everyone!


User currently offlineNAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9909 posts, RR: 36
Reply 18, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 27158 times:

Zvezda, have to disagree - I think Boeing made the right choice of route.

The object of this flight is to beat the existing distance record (currently held by the 777ER, I think) for publicity purposes. SYD/LHR might be highly significant in technical terms but only the Australian press would really be interested. New records attract worldwide coverage.

In addition, PIA and SQ are clearly interested in a range of achievable routes from Asia to the USA and Europe; possibly going on home eastbound (i.e. one-stop right round the world). They, and other airlines in Asia, taken together, have to be much bigger sales prospects than Qantas alone could ever be.

In any case, once the aeroplane's overall performance is validated, it will be relatively easy, from the data assembled, to calculate its performance on other routes and in different wind conditions. I'm confident that Boeing will achieve SYD/LHR anyway - with a passenger load sufficient to make the service profitable on a Business and/or Premium Economy basis.



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User currently offlineAstuteman From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 10008 posts, RR: 96
Reply 19, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 27121 times:
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Quoting Sq212 (Thread starter):
Anticipated test air speed: Approximately 475 knots (about 546 mph or 879 kph)

Not wishing to split hairs on a great occasion, Sq212, but shouldn't that be ground speed?
475kts IAS sounds AWFULLY fast to me, particularly for a flight which will by definition be planned to be frugal in the extreme (i.e. SLOW).


User currently offlineIloveboeing From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 796 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 27114 times:

Quoting Sq212 (Thread starter):
Engines: General Electric GE90-110B1L

I've been wondering.....why did Boeing decide to use engines with less thrust on the 772LR than the 773ER? Why didn't Boeing put the GE90-115B on the 772LR? Thanks.


User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 21, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 27070 times:

Quoting Scotron11 (Reply 14):
Interesting to note that the pilots that will be on board are not only from PIA, but from SIA as well, and SIA haven't ordered the model, yet.

Could be they will?

Could be they will. SQ are due to make a decision next month.

Quoting MidnightMike (Reply 15):
Flying that route, does not set the Long Distance Record, which is based on mileage

I stand corrected.

Quoting Iloveboeing (Reply 20):
I've been wondering.....why did Boeing decide to use engines with less thrust on the 772LR than the 773ER? Why didn't Boeing put the GE90-115B on the 772LR? Thanks.

Fuel consumption at cruise?


User currently offlineNAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9909 posts, RR: 36
Reply 22, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 27051 times:

Steady, Astuteman - Sq212 said 'airspeed', not 'Indicated Air Speed'  

For the record, a 475-knot true airspeed at say 35,000 feet would show 'on the clock' at about 300 KIAS - though of course they'd be using Mach. speed anyway at that height.

[Edited 2005-11-09 04:44:10]


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User currently offlineOldAeroGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3502 posts, RR: 66
Reply 23, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 27031 times:

Quoting Iloveboeing (Reply 20):
I've been wondering.....why did Boeing decide to use engines with less thrust on the 772LR than the 773ER? Why didn't Boeing put the GE90-115B on the 772LR? Thanks

No need for the -115B in most instances. The higher takeoff rotation angle of the -200LR (due to shorter body length) allows it to have the same takeoff field length as the -300ER with less thrust.

Less thrust means lower engine initial costs and lower maintenance costs.

There are some applications where the -115B would benefit the -200LR. Boeing acquired -115B certification data during the -200LR flight test program. If a customer can use the higher rating, Boeing will sell it to them.



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User currently offlineIloveboeing From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 796 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 26999 times:

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 21):

Fuel consumption at cruise?

That makes sense. Do you think that the GE90-110B1 will be awarded the same ETOPS rating (330 minutes) like the GE90-11B?


25 Zvezda : What is a GE90-11B, when was it awarded ETOPS330 and by which certifying bureaucracy?
26 Iloveboeing : What would be the takeoff field length of the 772LR?
27 Iloveboeing : Sorry, I meant the GE90-115B....for the 777-300ER....
28 Ikramerica : And it would not be significant without full proposed revenue payload. It's been shown that various models could do LHR-SYD on delivery flights, incl
29 Iloveboeing : So they only gave the 773ER ETOPS of 207, even though it demonstrated 330 capability? Why would they do that?
30 Astuteman : Fair comment, NAV. I inferred IAS from the post. A
31 SunriseValley : What basis do you have for this comment? It can be done , that is not an issue. What is not known , at least amongst A.netters , is the consistent pa
32 Ikramerica : Because ETOPS330 is only a theoretical concept. Boeing used the same criteria you would need to prove ETOPS207 and applied it to 330 to demonstrate t
33 AC787 : I guess i was vague in the question, I kind of just assumed people would take it that I meant with a significant payload. Its kind of assumed that mo
34 Gigneil : Full of people, yes. N
35 RoseFlyer : This isn't that surprising. Boeing did the same kind of thing with the 772ER. They flew SEA-KUL the long way around (over Atlantic/Europe/Asia) and th
36 Vatveng : Looks like the web folks at boeing jumped the gun a bit... it's talking about the record flight in the past tense, and says it "landed at London Heat
37 Ikramerica : Aviation advances and history is full of "pure publicity" stunts like this. It's one of the great things about aviation. And anytime you set a new ai
38 Iloveboeing : I think the 772LR will be a success in sales. Its extremely long range makes it very attractive to airlines in Asia, Australia, and New Zealand. I'm
39 NAV20 : No problem, Astuteman. Always fascinates me that, as far as I know, the pitot tube (invented by Henri Pitot in 1732) remains the only method of direct
40 Sonic67 : I agree it would seem to me more creditable if they went a shorter distance with a fully loaded with passengers. Only 35 people will be on board, inc
41 NAV20 : In marketing it's important to have more than one string to your bow. Sure, Boeing will be going hard on the 'supply side' - telling airlines how far
42 Sq212 : Thanks for your reply. Events such as this is difficult to ignore. Although this is a niche aircraft, but confident that a few prospective operators
43 NZ107 : This was supposed to be a straight swap for the current fleet, not expansion. There will be another big purchase by NZ in the near future, hopefully
44 Iloveboeing : So, along with the 772LR, what else is NZ likely to purchase? Some 789s? How many, do you think?
45 NZ107 : 747ADV or 773ER are the 2 options. They have already ordered 2 more 787's and I'm unsure whether there are any more 787's that will be bought.
46 OldAeroGuy : Between 10,000 ft and 11,000 ft at seal level for long range missions with the -110B engine. No difference between the -110B and -115B. They are iden
47 Keesje : At the same moment the A380 goes on Asia tour. SQ and QF are making up their minds. What a coincidence. I think in reality Boeing Communications Depar
48 Zvezda : You're suggesting the last-minute reschedule by Airbus was to steal Boeing's thunder? I doubt it. I'm willing to believe Airbus that they really did
49 CX flyboy : The aircraft has just been towed down to HAECO. I would guess for show to people touring it, or because it's near the holding point for runway 07R!!
50 Monteycarlos : Because I am sure so many airlines will want to do HKG - LHR eastbound. Poor route choice. I just want to see it do SYD-LHR, and with more than 35 pe
51 WINGS : I don't believe he meant this Zvezda. If the A380 flight to Singapore had not been delayed by three days then this flying demo by the B777LR would ha
52 EI747SYDNEY : The webpage says it has landed. Any pics????? Rob
53 CX flyboy : It hasn't departed yet!!! Not from HKG anyway. Apparently Richard Quest from CNN will be on board.....a planespotters dream!
54 EI747SYDNEY : Yeah I tought it was quite strange that they had stated that it had landed at LHR on the 10 november. Rob
55 LeonB1985 : I believe it's expected to arrive LHR at approx midday tomorrow (Thursday).
56 KLMCedric : Is the current official record still the 1989 744 Qantas LHR-SYD run,or have there been others since?
57 Sq212 : Herewith the Aviation Distance Records (from Seattle PI article) 2005: Steve Fossett completed first solo, nonstop flight around the world without re
58 SparkingWave : A poor route choice only for you. You don't understand the significance, do you? Both the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans, with North America to boot. Th
59 Columbia107 : Anyone knows what happens after London Heathrow. Will it head for Seattle via Bermuda? Wishful thinking!
60 Post contains images JetMaster : Very surprising...if you ignore the size and weight differences... Regards, JM
61 Zvezda : That was my point. While it's an interesting coincidence, one can just as easily accuse either manufacturer. Keesje seems quick to accuse Boeing, but
62 Post contains links WestWing : Does anyone know when the flight is scheduled to depart HKG ? The real Voyager is at the Air and Space Museum on the National Mall in Washington DC. S
63 Aloges : Seems like they're mighty sure everything will go well, doesn't it?
64 Post contains images NAV20 : My spiritual home, WestWing - no need to look up where you hail from. My guess is that both firms planned ther initiatives separately. Boeing allowed
65 Sq212 : Gate 6 closed about 10 minutes ago. Flight number listed as PRCBOE2 at Hongkong Intl airport . Takeoff should be anytime now. Cheers
66 NAV20 : Fingers crossed for the guys. But I'm sure it will all go swimmingly - a 'walk in the park'.
67 Post contains links LY4XELD : Apparently the website has live tracking? Is that really live? The first page of www.777.newairplane.com already congratulates Boeing on completing th
68 Glom : I thought they already did a similar flight a few months ago. HKG to LGW eastbound.
69 CX flyboy : Saw the plane fly past my window about 20 minutes ago.
70 AirxLiban : I'm not sure about that. AKL and LHR are just about as far apart as any two cities can be, even with the rear bulkhead fuel tanks and things dont thi
71 Post contains images NAV20 : The 'early publicity' thing is in awfully bad taste. Probably some 'smart alec' trying to catch the early editions. Presumably they don't know (yet) t
72 Post contains images Stitch : I know the company that does the WorldLiner's website, so I will be sure to razz them later today. The plane is currently about 300 miles east of HKG
73 Post contains links and images WestWing : For some reason the website does not seem to automatically update the distance travelled (you have to reload the page for it to). Also, the main page
74 Post contains images BoogyJay : It does update the travelled distance for me. 470nm as for now (I assume they talk about nautical miles).
75 EI747SYDNEY : It is supposed to land at LHR 1:30 TOMORROW Rob
76 Sq212 : Don't know the registration number, but the aircraft is definitely under the MH livery. Regards.
77 WestWing : You're right! It does update if I use FireFox, but not with (my version of) IE.
78 CX flyboy : Nav20, I live right by the airport. Anywhere else in HK and it would be too far to recognise the 772LR. SQ212, I think it was 9M-MRB.....it carried a
79 SmithAir747 : I just heard from the Yahoo LHR newsgroup that N6066Z (the B777-200LR) is due at LHR at 1325 local time tomorrow. I'll keep watching, and I'll probabl
80 EI747SYDNEY : They have updated the webpage. Now it no longer says that the aircraft has landed. Rob
81 Post contains images YULWinterSkies : Interesting indeed. But they did it with the 342 though. I think their commercial efforts at that time were more focused on the 380, which, remember,
82 N79969 : It is very prestigious because no other plane, in a similarly empty state, could make the flight. It is a demonstration flight and really should not
83 Ikramerica : if you don't want to read why it makes sense and how this isn't a route proving flight but a record breaking flight, then fine. that's your right to
84 BlueSky1976 : Good luck to the flight crew of 777-200LR. That's going to be one hell of an achievement. Makes you wanna wonder how long it will remain unbeatable. P
85 Adipasqu : Besides the flight tracker on the 777 website, is there another flight tracker out there that shows this flight with the usual information we are used
86 NAV20 : YULEWinterSkies, I reckon it's just one of those aviation things. Airbus pioneered ultra-longhaul, now Boeing looks like making a commercial success o
87 Toering : Would there be any chance that the would fly over Minnesota? That would be the best thing ever to spot that scooten across the sky on this historical
88 Post contains links Widebodyphotog : The record in the eligible weight class (300,000KG Takeoff weight and above) is held by a QF 747-400 set in 1989 at 9,206nm and 20h 09m. This is also
89 Ikramerica : And B will only try that IF they think it can do it. My guess is they will need to do it using 001 with water tanks filled, or with a retrofitted PIA
90 Zvezda : I would be surprised if it overflies any US airspace other than perhaps Alaska. I bet a future B787 derivative shatters the record in the lower weigh
91 Ikramerica : It's routed over Seattle for shits and giggles, from what i understand.
92 Ikramerica : HKG-SEA-LHR is only 9800nm, so it must be routed non-polar at all to add the additional 3000nm of distance. lhr-jfk-sea-hnl-gum-hkg gives about 12500
93 777STL : I don't think it's as much the specific route as it is proving what the plane can do. I wouldn't doubt there to be a SYD-LHR or SYD-JFK in the not so
94 Post contains links GQfluffy : http://tinyurl.com/cn2u6 I like the article's title. "Boeing Jet Attempts..." What in tarnation does that mean? What happens if this "attempt" fails?
95 Zvezda : I would have thought they would want to head north and then spend as much time in the jetstream as possible. They are trying to maximize distance with
96 KhenleyDIA : There are rules on how many times they can turn, from what I have read. KhenleyDIA
97 Ikramerica : Very real possibility they would have engine problems or something else that could force them to land anywhere along their planned route. All record
98 Wah64d : Ground speed is impossible to accurately predict over a flight of this distance as it is affected by head and tail winds. TAS or true air speed is wh
99 Post contains images Glareskin : What's the purpose of this flight? Just to be in the Guiness book? I really cannot imagine Boeing thinks that is worth the amount of money involved in
100 Post contains images Kaitak : Thanks Glareskin; next time, I'll make sure to bring the cherry pie. Seriously, though, I do agree with you. I'm always glad to see a record breaking
101 Post contains images 777DAD : What is the purpose........! "Why do people still climb Mt. Everest?" Simple: The Sky's the Limit! "777 Power" Have a 777(nice) Day. Jeff
102 Snaiks : i wonder what will the inflight movie is going to be, heheehh
103 Zeke : Went past it around 7pm HKG time tonight, it was parked near the 07R had a good look at it from taxiway J, looked like a black aircraft, no power on
104 Post contains images Justplanecrazy : It's more of a publicity stunt than simply gaining a place in the "Yuk" book of records.
105 UAL747 : "The Hours" UAL
106 Ikramerica : What's the purpose of your post? Just to rain on a record attempt? Record attempts don't have much purpose in and of themselves, other than for PR. A
107 Post contains images Ari : sounds great! ....by the way...did anyone spot that they have a lady flying the plane!...Captain Suzanna Darcy-Hennemann!...wow...what a cool job all
108 AC777200LR : Does anybody no how long this beautiful looking aircraft will be at LHR ,and where is it off to next after its well earned rest???
109 WAH64D : Straight to the BA maintenance hangars after this marathon effort I would imagine.
110 Post contains images Robsch : You got me thinking about very long entertainment options. If they wanted another first, they could hire a company to have the first in-flight staged
111 Airplane : I cannot believe someone mentioned UIO and GYE Cool ! Unfortunates no airline in the history of the universe will operate such flight. JP
112 Aircanada333 : What!!!!!!!! This is like the best thing that can ever hapen! For me it would be close to paradise!
113 Ikramerica : If I was in J or F with a window seat, heck, the longer the better. Sitting in a recliner watching movies and reading and sleeping and looking at the
114 SFORunner : Your typical opera singer is a bit on the heavy side and would probably cause range issues.
115 Sq212 : James Wallace, Seattle PI reports: - lifted off HK Intl airport runway 07R at 10:28pm, 2 minutes early - Suzanna Darcy-Hennemann in command seat - tur
116 WhiteHatter : Probably for some hours whilst they do a check, and secure the data from the flight. Engine oil consumption will be something they want to closely mo
117 Post contains images Kappel : Perhaps 24, day 5. The complete season (or day, whatever) in one flight
118 WhiteHatter : Groundhog Day
119 Post contains images WestWing : So, with a ground speed of ~ 600 kt, I guess they would be over LAX at about 18:30 PST ? So for those of you at hanging out at the In-N-Out: Look ! Up
120 Jumbojet : I'm thinking the exact opposite. What's so horrific about being in a plane for 24 hours? then don't fly on it.[Edited 2005-11-10 02:35:21]
121 BritPilot777 : Anyone gonna be at LHR tomorrow to watch her come in? I'm planning on it, see if I get up though haha Bp777
122 Post contains links AM : Does anyone know the flight identifier so that I can track it on fboweb.com or FlightAware? I tried BOE002, but it displays the BFI/HKG leg... Awesome
123 United787 : Well it officially finished crossing the Pacific and is now over North America. I wanted to see it pass over Chicago, but I need to get some rest.
124 Wagz : Flytecomm showed it entering BOE2. No map, but altitude and ground speed are listed, as well as Departure and ETA times.
125 Toering : My Flight Explorer is showing it crossing into CA just south of San Fran..........but it also is showing it heading SE, parallel with the cost. What's
126 Post contains images Monteycarlos : No, not only for me. I understand that its a "record-breaking" flight... but in my view (and I am entitled to it if you don't mind!) is that it is po
127 Bruce : flightaware.com has it tracked. ID is BOE2. It appears that they took a pretty sharp turn. They were heading east-northeast over the pacific looking m
128 QANTAS077 : it's scheduled to fly right over LAX which is why it's currently heading South along the caost, it's just passed Santa Barbara and tracking towards Ox
129 Toering : I see that too........... what the heck? They must have fuel to burn. Could it just be an attempt to rub it in the faces of those who didn't think the
130 Hoya : Based on the flight tracker at flightaware.com, the flight has made its final turn. In order for the record to be official, the article states that on
131 Monteycarlos : Yeah thats pretty much it. Thats why I am a little critical of this whole record breaking attempt. I know the plane can do it, but I think they have
132 Sq212 : Should be 7. 4 from Boeing, 2 from PK, and 1 from SQ. PK pilot to land the plane at LHR. Regards
133 Monteycarlos : Nice one... I am guessing Suzanna Darcy-Hennemann is on board for the flight?
134 Sq212 : Yep...she was on the left seat when the plane took off....probably snooring by now.
135 SunriseValley : Just checked Flight Explorer; it gives ground speed at 640 mph or 556knots as it heads towards LHR from LAX. I believe the cruise speed of this aircra
136 Post contains images Justplanecrazy : Her husband might like to know how you know she snoores,
137 Adipasqu : What if they still have a bunch of fuel left as they approach LHR? A holding pattern to jack up the mileage perhaps? Continue on to HKG?
138 Justplanecrazy : Is fuel sold by the bunch in the US?
139 Post contains images Adipasqu : Yes, a bunch is approximately a crapload.
140 QANTAS077 : currently at 39000 feet with 577kts ground speed and travelled 5815nm with 3810nm to travel and about 6hr 40 to fly.
141 SFORunner : The press is waiting for them at LHR, so it's likely they'll just stick to the plan as-is. Although ... I hear they might divert to TLS if the weathe
142 Ikramerica : That explains the routing then. I mapped out HKG-GUM-HNL-SEA-JFK-LHR and it wasn't as long as the flight was scheduled for, a few hundred nm shorter
143 Zvezda : Now wouldn't that just be a little too in-your-face?
144 Ikramerica : Gee Grandma, what large bias you have... Anyone who is enthusiastic about an aviation record being broken is obviously really just a Boeing booster i
145 MidnightMike : The 777-200LR with the 3 AUX tanks can fly the SYD-LHR route. That is part of the testing of the aircraft taking off with all tanks filled to the rim
146 Post contains images Springbok747 : It has currently flown 9220 miles (that's according to the Boeing site), it has passed the east coast of the North American continent on its way to LH
147 AirOrange : Nothing wrong with London. But why London as destination and not for example Amsterdam, Paris, Berlin, Moscow, Madrid, Athens or another European or A
148 QFA380 : No offence for any of those cites but isn't London arguably the best city in Europe and the most well known. Although it would be good for Boeing to
149 SFORunner : Maybe the plane is off to SYD after this.....? Anyone?
150 Bruce : Looks like it is going to go off of tracking soon, out over the Atlantic. accordingto the map at flightaware, there are more than 3 turns in its cours
151 Post contains images EI747SYDNEY : Well It sure is going to set the benchmark for civil airliners for the next few years. Rob
152 AC777200LR : she's just passed 52n30w at 1042z and est 53n20w at 1119z,just got the voice reports on HF freq 5616 on dxtuners.com,i'm off to the office in a while,
153 Post contains links Beany : If you go to http://www.aeroseek.com/webtrax/ and type in BOE002 then when it enters UK airspace you should be able to follow its arrival into LHR I a
154 Jasond : Nice track but looks like they got the distance wrong. They've assumed they went the 'right' way!!!
155 Post contains links NAV20 : One hour 28 minutes to go, according to this:- http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE2
156 Gkirk : Airline Boeing Commercial Airplane Group Flight Number 2 Departure City (Airport) Hong Kong, Hong Kong (VHHH) Departure Time 11/10/2005 10:07 PM Arriv
157 Beany : Just approaching Waterford. 264 miles to go.
158 Lordanmol : Ok this is the latest information on the bird So far travelled 11953 Miles Regards LordAnmol
159 Art : Miles flown indicator on Boeing site has stopped at 12000 miles. Has it landed?
160 Post contains links Beany : No, Just flying over Carmarthen in South Wales. Go to http://www.aeroseek.com/webtrax/ and type in BOE002 and you can track where it is.
161 Post contains links LordHowe : According to http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE2 ETA is 12.56PM Regards, LordHowe
162 Sq212 : The existing nonstop distance record of 10,823nm was set in April 1997. 22 minutes left for the flight.
163 Aussieindc : not according to flight aware. Still 28 mins remaining does anyone know if any of the major news networks such as CNN are covering it?
164 Justplanecrazy : Looks like it's going to cross over the 7th bridge,i hope the captain's got his toll money.(car £2,lorry £4,bike £1,B777LR £6.50)
165 Lordanmol : I think it has landed, because the boeing website just stops at 12000 miles, Regards LordAnmol
166 GBOAB : 12:43 Currently at 13000ft approaching Ockham hold
167 LordHowe : Beany, This is great! Thanks! LordHowe
168 Justplanecrazy : if it's landed then it's landed in the town of basingstoke because that's where it is according to flightaware.
169 Post contains images EI747SYDNEY : Should be any minute now.... Rob
170 Post contains images Beany : I wonder how many times LATCC are going to put them round that, the aircraft this morning have been doing at least 2 circuits round OCK. I am sure th
171 Sq212 : 11nm to go, 2 minutes to touchdown.
172 GBOAB : 12:49 Still in Ockham hold at 13000
173 Lordanmol : I am doing it with the boeing site Regards
174 Justplanecrazy : not a nice day here in london the cotton wool's low,i was hoping to see it's approach from my bedroom window just at the point it lowers its gear
175 Beany : Must have plenty of juice left as its just completed its first circuit round Ockham. There is me thinking that LHR would let them jump the queue but I
176 GBOAB : 12:54 Still holding now at 10000ft
177 Justplanecrazy : according to aeroseek flight tracker the 777 is going around in circles,unfortunatly it looks like the captains lost.
178 Lordanmol : According to Flight Aware the bird has already landed Regards
179 Rotate : Ground Spd: 244 kts Altitude: 12,000 not long to go anymore .... , hopefully enough fuel onborad to get to the gate, after that circling ...
180 Aussieindc : anyone have any idea as to how long she will be in holding for??? If you were onboard, wouldn't you be thinking - I just want to get off this thing? A
181 LordHowe : Coming down now ETA 0101PM LordHowe
182 Justplanecrazy : he's still going round in circles,he's totally lost.
183 GBOAB : He is not lost, just waiting his turn to land
184 Post contains images NAV20 : I wonder if even the Queen ever gets a 'straight in' apporach at Heathrow?
185 KhenleyDIA : While they are holding, they are just flying more and more miles. I look forward to the official numbers! KhenleyDIA
186 LordHowe : One more round to go (at least!)
187 Post contains images Aussieindc : I have to say, going by the visual map on aeroseek, the PAI pilot isn't very good at keeping it on the same holding path...
188 Jet-lagged : Now at 10,000 ft. Seems to be slowly spiralling down.
189 GBOAB : 13:02 Left Ockham now at 6000
190 Post contains images Gkirk : Of course it will, it isn't an Airbus you know
191 Rotate : I really dont get why She is not getting VIP service, common she has been in the air for such a long time now ... - gimme a break! perhaps the people
192 Post contains images EI747SYDNEY : How do you know this? If he is circling would he do this to see just how long he can go till the tanks are dry? Rob
193 LordHowe : How much delayed is aeroseek?
194 Chksix : She must be able to hold for 45 mins at least
195 Ourboeing : Any updates? Waiting.............
196 GBOAB : 13:07 Now Established 27L
197 Rotate : yep ... , thats it - no circling anymore ...
198 Aussieindc : GBOAB, where are you seeing this information? it appears Aeroseek is a little behind your info. Thanks, Aussieindc
199 LordHowe : Oh no, one more round! But she's coming down and I bet there are a lot of others in the same pattern ... LordHowe
200 NAV20 : Spiralling down, about 10 miles out - below 7,000 now.
201 Post contains images Gkirk : 262kts, 5,300ft now Time for another circle?
202 Rotate : defenetely ....
203 GBOAB : 13:10 5 miles to go
204 Gkirk : LHR is very busy. Plus I'd think there is probably still quite a bit of fuel left on her yet so she can afford to circle a few times.
205 Post contains images EI747SYDNEY : Has anyone got the updated distance as of now. Rob
206 Post contains links GBOAB : 13:13 Just landed I was tracking the flight with the SBS Virtual radar http://www.kineticavionics.co.uk/ Ian
207 NAV20 : 18 miles, 4,500 - speed down to 161 knots. The speed suggests that it's on final.
208 GEEZ : She's just landed!!!!!
209 NAV20 : Well done Boeing........
210 Post contains images Rotate : CONGRATS BOEING !!!!!! NEW WORLD RECORD !!!!!! anyone got some pics allready?
211 EI747SYDNEY : Congrats to all onboard involved with the flight. An historic day for Aviation. Now for the Pics........... Rob {wave)
212 LordHowe : "Ladies and gentlemen! We have just landed in London Heathrow airport. The local time is 1:20 PM. We thank you for choosing Boeing Commercial Airplane
213 Reggaebird : Hear ye, hear ye.... Princess Airbus is officially dethroned as the reigning distance title holder! Long live the new King! Great job Boeing! Reggaebi
214 OURBOEING : I'm very proud of OURBOEING!! Your's respectfully, OURBOEING[Edited 2005-11-10 14:21:23]
215 Post contains images Gkirk : Just seen some video coverage of it taxiing at LHR. Looked like a BA A320 landed behind it
216 Post contains images EI747SYDNEY : Guy's it's a great Day for aviation in general. Well done Boeing. Rob
217 Rotate : LOL good one ...
218 Post contains images Gkirk : I'm not joking Looked like an A320 or A321 The 772LR was taxiing towards T4 at LHR
219 Rotate : well, I believe you 100% ... , hate those times in LHR , when one after another is coming in ... Robin
220 Alitalia744 : Whether you love or hate Boeing, both sides of the pond should be rejoicing today. Another great milestone in aviation was achieved today by the Boein
221 Post contains images EI747SYDNEY : hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.... Rob
222 Post contains images Gkirk : Seems like it might have been a BA flight from Oslo following the 772LR landing judging by the BAA site
223 Post contains images NAV20 : BBC World Service just gave the figures:- Duration 22 hrs. 42 miins. (55 mins. 'on hold'  ) Distance 13,422 miles. Presumably that's statute miles -
224 Post contains images KhenleyDIA : Now, only if it would have been an A340-500. Good job Boeing! We have almost reached a point where the distance a plane won't matter, since they will
225 Alasdaironeil : does anyone know how long its staying at LHR for? Alasdair
226 Post contains links GBOAB : Check the link, video might appear later http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4423750.stm
227 LeonB1985 : Until Sunday morning, I believe...
228 AirxLiban : Did concorde get it, out of curiosity?
229 Post contains images Revelation : It would have been quite a coup for Airbus if they had conveniently arranged for the A380 to land right behind it!
230 Post contains images LeonB1985 : Or had them on a simultaneous approach onto the parallel runways!
231 Post contains images EI747SYDNEY : From the BBC: Boeing has now beaten its previous world record for the longest non-stop commercial airline flight, which was set in 1989 by a 747-400 j
232 Sq212 : I really like your joke.......:D Affirmative. The existing nonstop distance record for a commercial jetliner, known as the Great Circle Distance With
233 Post contains images EI747SYDNEY : The BBC had a reporter on board that flight. Surely they could have got that bit of the report correct. Misinformed journalists are the vain of the i
234 Alasdaironeil : Hold on, i'm confused now. If the Malaysia B777 was the world longest flight in 1997, what record did the A345 get???
235 Kappel : That's the longest passenger flight. From SIN-EWR. It will hold that record for a while yet. I don't know what city pairs are further apart exept of
236 Sq212 : A345 did not attempt nonstop distance record. If they did, I would assume that the 1997 record will be broken.
237 MarBergi : Is it not longest commercial flight or something like that??
238 Post contains images NAV20 : MarBergi, please see the story in the very first post, the thread-starter:- "1997: The existing non-stop distance record for a commercial jetliner, kn
239 United787 : Why not????
240 Sq212 : NAV20 With gratitude for your active participation and contribution on this thread. So with the rest of the participants. Its been a 'fun" thread. Wis
241 Post contains images EI747SYDNEY : Thanks Rob
242 Post contains images MarBergi : Maybe I put it incorrectly - is it not the longest scheduled commercial flight - SIN-EWR I know the T7 is the king - to the 747's queen - and long may
243 Post contains images NAV20 : Sorry, MarBergi - I stuffed up, I was answering Alisdaironeil, not you!
244 CX flyboy : Any technical data out there yet? Fuel burn, flight levels, fuel remaining, payload, TOW, ZFW etc?
245 MarBergi : No biggy, I could have been clearer.
246 WAH64D : Would have been nice, but simultaneous approaches are not allowed at LHR.
247 Zvezda : The Malaysian B777-200ER was in the 250,000 to 300,000kg weight class. The previous record holder in the over 300,000kg weight class was the B747-400
248 LeonB1985 : But it does happen from time to time, well sort of, when they bring aircraft in to land on both parallel runways.
249 Alasdaironeil : Thanks for that. Sorry for the confusion, I believe that the 2 runways at LHR are too close togther to have simultaneous landings, the runways have to
250 WAH64D : As alasdaironeill says, the runways are too close to each other for spa's to be safe.
251 LeonB1985 : I guess in those cases although both runways may be used for arrivals for a given period of time, the approaches/landings aren't actually simultaneous
252 Ikramerica : Well just plugging in HKG-MDY-SFO-LAX-JFK-LHR on the gc mapper you get 11943nm or 13744mi, so that's about right what was reported. Just depends on t
253 777STL : Most people and news agencies don't study aviation the way people do around here. Average joe doesn't know the difference anyway.
254 D L X : I'm surprised no one found this as funny as I did! 2 miles is WAY more than you need. Think about it, 2 miles is basically a long runway's length. SF
255 Gkirk : I think the actual distance is 750m
256 Adriaticus : From Boeing's Website:
257 SparkingWave : You still don't understand the point of "record-breaking". The point is to capture the imagination and impress; usually by boasting "bigger is better
258 Startknob : C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S !!!!!!!!! Regards, Startknob
259 Chevvy2 : Got a nice view of her from the Air France lounge at LHR tonight but no camera to hand. Parked over at what looked like the end of terminal 3 in the g
260 Monteycarlos : Indeed I would... which is why I am glad that it never did. For the record, I am anti-record breaking. No, I obviously understand the point with much
261 SunriseValley : So in doing the 11664 nm in 22hr 42 min the approx. ground speed was 517 knots. Assuming a standard cruise of 480 knots, there was an average tail win
262 Post contains images Gkirk : Aye but it circled round LHR a few times and still had quite a bit of gas left
263 Post contains links Sq212 : This thread is winding down. Happy that the record flight is finally over and already in the history books. It is worthy to note the following after t
264 CX flyboy : Wow, I didn't realise that they could take that amount of fuel. As for the arrival fuel figure.....I wouldn't really want to go much lower than that,
265 Lemurs : Are you against puppy dogs and sunshine too? I realize they're not practical, but if the world was all practicality there'd be no room for inspiratio
266 Post contains images NAV20 : Oddly enough, CX flyboy, I'm astonished by that figure - the opposite way! I don't know what fuel densities are like these days, but taking 6.6 pound
267 Rotate : Totally wrong! From time to time there ARE simultaneous landings at LHR. Ever heard separation? You could land on parallel rwys, which are 250 meters
268 CX flyboy : It seems a lot to me because we fly the 777 regionally here, and recently I did a flight where we were at MTOW, already having limited the ZFW to wel
269 Post contains images Backfire : Would have been amusing to take it all the way to Toulouse.
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