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Ryanair Increases Fleet, But Will Retire 5x 738's  
User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2681 times:

According to Airliner World (December 2005), FR has excercised a further 9 options for the Boeing 737-800, bringing its order backlog to a total of 156 of the type.

However, it also states that some of these aircraft, when delivered in 2007, will be used to replace 5 B737-800s purchased in 1999, which will be retired from service.  Confused

Surely these aircraft can't be life expired already??


Lee


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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19230 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2674 times:

The aforementioned 5 738 machines which will be retired will probably be leased to sold to other airlines.


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User currently offlineEI747SYDNEY From Ireland, joined Oct 2005, 703 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2632 times:

Quoting BMIFlyer (Thread starter):
Surely these aircraft can't be life expired already??

I know what you mean. Considering the fact that they are already running their 732's well past the 20 and 25 year old mark.

Rob  wave 



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User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2590 times:

Put simply, there is a view that FR got such a good deal from Boeing for its huge order for 737s, that the second hand value of the -800s on the open market is more than the price they originally paid for them. With that in mind it makes good financial sense if they can find a willing customer to sell some on.

It may well be that FR ordered far more aircraft than it ever believed it would require in order to do this...  duck 



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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19230 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2548 times:

Seems like a logical step, Cornish, especially as a small airline could never secure such excellent deals, considering the economies of scale and bulk-buying discounts which large carriers can acquire. So, sell 'em on or lease 'em.


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4328 posts, RR: 35
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2504 times:

plus their first 738s are "over engineered" with actual windowshades and seatpockets, while their standard newer "738-lite"s don't have these. So they can generate more money at another airline. Well the seatpockets is meant as a joke but I can imagine fitting or removing windowshades would cost quite a bit. I doubt they will get more for them then they originally paid, otherwise Boeing would feel stupid and humiliated seeing Ryanair undercutting their prices, but for sure they get a good price for them with the 8 years depreciation taken into account, and also seeing the popularity of any (second hand) 737ng's on the market.


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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19230 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2484 times:

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 5):
I doubt they will get more for them then they originally paid, otherwise Boeing would feel stupid and humiliated seeing Ryanair undercutting their prices

And you reckon that matters? I don't think that 99.9% of the population would ever hear of it all anyway. Besides, WE - geeky fans - probably won't hear the actual paid-for prices.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineGofly From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 1727 posts, RR: 38
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2397 times:
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Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 6):
And you reckon that matters? I don't think that 99.9% of the population would ever hear of it all anyway. Besides, WE - geeky fans - probably won't hear the actual paid-for prices.

Exactly, I doubt Boeing will lose much sleep over it either.

Quoting Cornish (Reply 3):
Put simply, there is a view that FR got such a good deal from Boeing for its huge order for 737s, that the second hand value of the -800s on the open market is more than the price they originally paid for them. With that in mind it makes good financial sense if they can find a willing customer to sell some on.

It that's correct, it would be more of a shock if FR didn't sell them on. Seems like too good a deal to miss.

-Gofly  Smile



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User currently offlineDAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2311 times:

This is old news, and another thread on this can be found at http://www.airliners.net/discussions...general_aviation/read.main/2364746


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21532 posts, RR: 59
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2267 times:

Quoting Gofly (Reply 7):
Exactly, I doubt Boeing will lose much sleep over it either.

Yeah, if a company gives baker's dozen discounts for example, they could care less what you do with that extra donut! They sold you 12 donuts at a nice profit...



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User currently offlineShamrocka330 From Ireland, joined Sep 2005, 287 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2112 times:

I read somewhere (probably here!) that these early 737-800s are soon due one of the large and costly maintanence checks that all aircraft face at certain stages of their life. Maybe the airline wants rid of these aircraft rather than face these costs.


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